Dresden | Neumarkt - Rekonstruktion / Reconstruction of New Market

[Kampflamm]

Pre-1945:



Today:



This is probably pretty close to what it looked like initially:




Note: the facade shown in the drawing is on the other side...nonetheless the roof seems to have been much bigger before 1825. All of this is quite similar to what's been done around the Neumarkt. Many buildings underwent neo-classicist changes in the 19th century but the rebuilt ones largely got their baroque facades back.

[Kampflamm]

Future site of Quartier VIII in the distance:

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Source: Vitruv & Kindvon2dresdnern, (APH-Forum)

[socrates#1fan]

Maybe they put them in a park or something.
When they tore down our beautiful courthouse they took the statues to the cemetery.

In my opinion, I think it would have looked better if they kept the statues.

[Dr.Seltsam]

The statues are in the courtyard of the "Taschenbergpalais" now. You can see this on the 26th picture on this side:

Originally Posted by Kampflamm

Source: Vitruv & Kindvon2dresdnern, (APH-Forum)

[goschio]

Originally Posted by Kampflamm

Pre-1945:



Today:





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Strange, that so many building looked so neglected and run down back then. Especially in a city like Dresden which was quite rich.

[erbse]

It wasn't half as easy to renovate a building back then. And because there were nothing but old buildings, there wasn't all that much valuation of them. You fairly recognize this by the way some old towns were "renovated" before WW2 - massive street breakthroughs (talking about Frankfurt or Berlin f.i.), structural exposing of churches from their surroundings, etc.

[goschio]

But this was the heart of Dresden, a German economic and cultural powerhouse back then. And just look at all the shops at the Neumarkt, they looked rather poor and very primitive. At the same time, massive skyscrapers and stuff was going up in the new world.

look at this for example:

[erbse]

The old town district of Dresden was rather poor back then. Rich people were living around the central station or outer districts, such as Loschwitz, Weisser Hirsch, Johannstadt or parts of the Neustadt side.

(Most old towns of - even rich - European cities looked like that around 1900.)

And btw, many buildings suffered from the extensive exhaust pollution of that time.
You have to consider that there were no filters for chimneys, cars or factories & powerhouses.
Everything turned dirty pretty quickly.

Also, it's typical for the Elbe sandstone to turn black like the Frauenkirche as you see it in your picture, that's no dirt.

They renovated huge parts of Dresdens old town in the 20s/30s anyway - while your picture shows its condition around 1910.

[LoveCPH]

The new apartments around Neumarkt, how do these look? =)

[Kampflamm]

Some new views of the Neumarkt:



Future site of Quartier VIII



View towards the Altmarkt:



And two shots of the Altmarkt...the buildings are mainly post-war-pseudo-Stalinist ones. Pretty nice looking. The football stadium floodlight looks out of place though.





Source: http://bausituation-dresden.blogspot.com/

[Skymino]

Great updated! It's possible to see a lot of movement around Neumarkt!

[youngwoerth]

Dakir? Der Alte in Neu? Schau mal in Deine PN...
Und das Wichtigste: Herzlich Willkommen zurück!!!

@Erbse: Du bist ja seit Neuestem ganz schön eifrig hier mit DD-News. Klasse!

Darf ich Dich bzgl. des Q3 Baywobau ein wenig korrigieren? Das Eckhaus Kanzleigässchen / Schössergasse wird nicht als Leitbau, sondern als modernistischer Entwurf kommen. Auch sonst wird es im Viertel verstreut ein paar modernistische Fassaden in grau geben (Kanzleigässchen, Schössergasse, Sporergasse) - da hat die Gestaltungskommission schon dafür gesorgt.

[william of waco]

The Life Magazine archives have an astounding collection of prints and photos of German cities before and immediately after the war, the latter of which can be found by searching under “destruction of German cities”.

The following photo has probably been posted somewhere else on the forum but I thought it wouldn'y hurt to post it anyway. It is a pre-war, aerial perspective of Dresden that I have never seen before.

[LoKeY]

Great thread

this is what i found in my old highschool German textbook the other day

[Kampflamm]

Nice shot, showing a new urban space...



Site of Quartier 8:



New hotel in Rampische Straße:





Rampische Straße 29, financed entirely thru donations:





Source: http://bausituation-dresden.blogspot.com

[Alan G.]

Any new dates on Quartier 8 or any of the other projects ?

[Dakir@DD]

Thanks "william of waco" for this beautiful picture.

If I see this picture, I could cry ! Dresden was so wonderful.

[william of waco]

Many thanks Dakir@DD.
I'd give almost anything to step into that photo and explore those streets!

[ArchitectCS]

Could someone tell me how they determine which buildings are reconstructed and which ones are in a modern style? Were the ones that are now modern not historically significant or very decorative before the war?

[Dakir@DD]

Originally Posted by william of waco

I'd give almost anything to step into that photo and explore those streets!

Thus it also goes for me and many other people. Experience once old and nice Dresden.

Originally Posted by ArchitectCS

Could someone tell me how they determine which buildings are reconstructed and which ones are in a modern style? Were the ones that are now modern not historically significant or very decorative before the war?

Unfortunately, the people who deal with Dresden not a lot decide this. They think because they are architects that they know what is good for Dresden. They are very often quite wrong.