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Old August 1st, 2009, 08:31 PM   #1
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MISC | Giant locomotive appreciation thread (Photo Thread)

One of my favorite large loco's, one of, if not the biggest in the world and in my opinion on of the coolest is the GE dash 9. It's 23 meters long, weighs 193,000 kg (425000 lbs) and can cruise at nearly 75 mph (120 kph). There are more than 2000 of them worldwide, In Canada, United States, Mexico, Brazil and Australia (A few other countries have older versions like china etc.)



















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My favourite huge locomotive is the Voith Maxima 40CC.


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It is the world's most powerful single engined diesel-hydraulic locomotive, with a power output of 3600kW. So far 77 of the Maxima 40CC and the slightly less powerful 30CC have been ordered.







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Old August 2nd, 2009, 11:55 AM   #3
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China did not import the dash9 series, she imported 421 dash7(ND5/C36-7) locos in 1984 and 1986. Qishuyan Locomotive & Rolling Stock Works are producing Chinese version GE AC6000CW ---- HXN5 from June 2009, first order from Ministry of Railway is 500 units.

American locos are favorably reviewed in China, fuel consumption of 3600 hp ND5 is same as 3300hp Chinese DF4, tractive effort and speed are same as 5000 hp Chinese DF8. But American locos are too slow when compared with electric locomotives. For example, same Co-Co wheel arrangement, power of HXN5 is 4664kw, HXD3 is 7200kw, HXD3B is 9600kw, dragging standard 5000 tons goods train, the maxim speed(km/h) of them is:
ratio of slope(‰) HXN5 HXD3 HXD3B
0-----------------105----120---120
2------------------73----107---120
4------------------51-----84---102
6------------------38-----67----85
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The most powerful locomotives in the world.
HXD3B 9600kW electric
HXN3 4664kW diesel (EMD SD90MAC Chinese version)

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The Swiss railways had some huge locomotive for the mountain routes.

Ae 8/14 double locomotives

loc: 11801
build year: 1931
length: 34,000 mm
speed: 100 km/h
power 5,514 kW

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by: Pedros Eisenbahn

loc: 11852
build year: 1938
length: 34,010 mm
speed: 110 km/h
power 8,162 kW

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by: peters452002

BLS Ae 8/8

build year: 1959-1966
length: 30,230 mm
speed: 125 km/h
power 6,475 kW

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by: peters452002
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Old August 3rd, 2009, 12:17 AM   #6
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Giant Slovak locomotive class 131

Manufacturer: Škoda Plzeň
Built between: 1980 - 1982
Weight: 169 t
Length: 34.540 m
Power: 4,480 kW
Speed: 100 km/h






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Old August 3rd, 2009, 12:41 PM   #7
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Russia, 3ЭС5К:






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DF11G, Diesel 7220kW, 2(Co-Co)


SS4G, 6400kW, 2(Bo-Bo)
They combined 4 SS4Gs usualy as a 25600kW mulit-locomotive.
2 SS4Gs at the head of 20000 tons train.

2 SS4Gs at the middle of the train, controlled by first SS4G wireless.


HXD1, 9600kW, 2(Bo-Bo)
They combined 3 HXD1s usualy as a 28800kW mulit-locomotive.
2 HXD1s at the head of 20000 tons train, and one at middle. the first one controls others by wireless.
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The Swiss railways had some huge locomotive for the mountain routes.

Ae 8/14 double locomotives

loc: 11801
build year: 1931
length: 34,000 mm
speed: 100 km/h
power 5,514 kW

image hosted on flickr

by: Pedros Eisenbahn

loc: 11852
build year: 1938
length: 34,010 mm
speed: 110 km/h
power 8,162 kW

image hosted on flickr

by: peters452002

BLS Ae 8/8

build year: 1959-1966
length: 30,230 mm
speed: 125 km/h
power 6,475 kW

image hosted on flickr

by: peters452002

Those are really cool looking, shame they're not running anymore, although switzerland does have a few newer big ones

I'm pretty sure this double decker IC below has the largest 4 axle locomotive in europe.




This locomotive isn't really super giant, but it's beautiful, and at 120,000 kg it's pretty big for swiss railways... there is also an 80,000 kg version (which are more common) for passenger trains.

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European railways prefer quick and light goods trains.
American railways prefer slow and heavy goods trains.

Chinese railway prefers fast and heavy goods trains, if you wants to visit Godzilla, take a ticket to china.
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More photos of 3ЭС5К:





And it's little sister 2ЭС5К:




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Damn, those Russian trains look like they have a foot thick shell of armor.


Well, This is actually the largest diesel locomotive in the US, I don't know if they still run or not, but they belong to the Union pacific railroad, and at nearly 250 metric tonnes (275 tons) and 8 axles they are about 30 meters long.




These new NJ Transit locomotives are four axles and pretty cool looking

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Those are really cool looking, shame they're not running anymore, although switzerland does have a few newer big ones

I'm pretty sure this double decker IC below has the largest 4 axle locomotive in europe.

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The Re 450 compositions are not IC trains but are for the S-Bahn ZŘrich, the suburban network around the city. They look big, especially because they are higher then the average European locomotive and have only a cabin on 1 side, but for the rest they are not that big.
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This locomotive isn't really super giant, but it's beautiful, and at 120,000 kg it's pretty big for swiss railways... there is also an 80,000 kg version (which are more common) for passenger trains.

The Re 6/6 (Re 620) together with the German Class 103 have been the most powerful single locomotives in the world for a long time. Especially when in the 1980s newer three-phase electrical motors became the norm, that gave locomotives the same characteristics as the old locos but with a lower power output.

And only now the Chinese have made locomotives that use the latest technology but with maximum strength they have been surpassed.
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Why this 3(Bo-Bo) 12 axles locomotive have only 9180kW continous power?



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Well, This is actually the largest diesel locomotive in the US, I don't know if they still run or not, but they belong to the Union pacific railroad, and at nearly 250 metric tonnes (275 tons) and 8 axles they are about 30 meters long.
American railway's idea is very different from European. In America, axle load is 32 metric tons and in Europe axle load is 20~22 metric tons. So, an American 2(Bo-Bo) locomotive weights 256 metric tons, an European one weights 160~176 tons. In America, locomotives run 30~60 km/h at worse rails, in Europe goods locos run 120 km/h(max) at better rails.

Chinese idea of railway is similar as European, axle load is 23 or 25 tons normally, 21 or 22 tons for 160 km/h passenger locomotives.

The max axle load on the earth is 35.7 metric tons of Australia iron ore lines. Locomotives and combined tech are from America, but wagons are made in China.

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American locomotives run faster than 30-60 kph. Our freight trains run at 90-100 kph at top speed. They only go slow through towns and take a while to speed up.


What European locomotive weighs 160-176 tonnes? The largest European locomotives weigh only 130 tonnes. (Minus the Iron ore line in sweden, but that's just one locomotive). Correct me if I'm mistaken.
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American locomotives run faster than 30-60 kph. Our freight trains run at 90-100 kph at top speed. They only go slow through towns and take a while to speed up.


What European locomotive weighs 160-176 tonnes? The largest European locomotives weigh only 130 tonnes. (Minus the Iron ore line in sweden, but that's just one locomotive). Correct me if I'm mistaken.
Sorry, but for example EP2K (Russian (o yes, Russia is Europe)) is 135 tonnes, 2TE70 (Russian too) is 141, EP200 is 180.
BTW the IORE have 26 units.
Also you can look for SJ Dm3 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SJ_Dm3 190 tons
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This is the biggest loco you will find in Austria these days: Taurus III. While it might not be a real giant, I think it looks rather strong and powerful - and it's world's fastest loco:



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Why this 3(Bo-Bo) 12 axles locomotive have only 9180kW continous power?





American railway's idea is very different from European. In America, axle load is 32 metric tons and in Europe axle load is 20~22 metric tons. So, an American 2(Bo-Bo) locomotive weights 256 metric tons, an European one weights 160~176 tons. In America, locomotives run 30~60 km/h at worse rails, in Europe goods locos run 120 km/h(max) at better rails.

Chinese idea of railway is similar as European, axle load is 23 or 25 tons normally, 21 or 22 tons for 160 km/h passenger locomotives.

The max axle load on the earth is 35.7 metric tons of Australia iron ore lines. Locomotives and combined tech are from America, but wagons are made in China.
Don't forget, too, that you have the different coupling standards - the AAR couplers used in North America, China and Australia are far, far stronger than the buffer and chain ones used in Europe, requiring locomotives that can pull more weight and with the ability to be joined into multiple-unit sets (three and four 3.5+ MW diesel locomotives pulling one train is common and normal here), while such sets would be useless in Europe - they would outpull the buffer and chain couplers' capacity.

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Sorry, but for example EP2K (Russian (o yes, Russia is Europe)) is 135 tonnes, 2TE70 (Russian too) is 141, EP200 is 180.
BTW the IORE have 26 units.
Also you can look for SJ Dm3 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SJ_Dm3 190 tons
I meant more like single bodied locomotives, not 2 or three connected, but I guess that still counts as it's still huge.


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This is the biggest loco you will find in Austria these days: Taurus III
The Taurus locomotive is Austria's biggest engine? You guys don't have any 6 axle loco's for freight trains?

Taurus loco's are seriously the coolest in Europe, if not the world, 357 kph for a single 90 tonne machine is damn impressive. Not to mention they look awesome.
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