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Old June 21st, 2011, 10:16 AM   #381
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Firstly, its not that there was no pilot in the cockpit...rather the captain was not in the cockpit but there were two other pilots in the cockpit at the time the events (leading to the crash) started happening.



Many reasons could be there...Airplanes use Pulse Doppler radars that work on reflection of radio waves. Therefore, if there is a small storm in front of you, it could hide a bigger storm behind it (until it is too late). In fact, for such a case you have to specifically increase your power to detect "through" the storm.

Secondly, there is almost daily storms in that region at that time of the year. Storms change all the time and sometimes in a very short period so its possible that what looked like a window where you can pass through, changes by the time you reach there.

Also the theory so far emerging points to super cooled water and I am not such things can be detected by radars. In other words, the storm (possibly) wasn't that strong as to threaten the plane itself but it did disturb/block the pitot tubes (which led to a series of failures resulting in a aerodynamic stall).

Of course, it is something that could have and should have been avoided by the pilots. Pilot error does seem to be a factor and I am sure they are going to look at pilot behaviors in such events ( and how to improve them).
The fact of the matter is that, most other airliners avoided the storm and they decided to weather it out, they went straight to the storm path. I would not put a blame on the Captain when he left the cockpit because he left the copilots there, somehow they do need to leave the cockpit in certain occassions, such as using the labatory if they needed to, thats normal, but when all other airliners followed their instinct and avoided the pathway whether it is a small or big storm, the captain of those aircrafts used their best judgement. Obviously, the captain of these one failed on this one and it cost not only his life but the life of all his passengers and crews.
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(Very) close encounter due to runway incursion between Lufthansa A340-600 and EgyptAir B777-300 at JFK!

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Jumbo jets seconds from tragic hit

By BILL SANDERSON

June 22, 2011

A Lufthansa jumbo jet speeding toward takeoff was forced to a screeching halt on a Kennedy Airport runway to avoid a catastrophic collision with an EgyptAir plane that made a wrong turn into its path, sources told The Post.

"Cancel take off! Cancel take off plans!" yelled a frightened air controller who saw that the Munich-bound Lufthansa Airbus A340 was headed toward a collision with an Egypt Air Boeing 777 at around 6:50 p.m. Monday.

"Lufthansa 411 heavy is rejecting takeoff," the pilot radioed back.

The aborted liftoff came as the German airliner was steaming down Runway 22R, where an EgyptAir plane was precariously perched less than a mile away, officials said.

"Those two were coming together," radioed an unidentified pilot who witnessed the near-disaster.

A few minutes later, a pilot aboard a Virgin America flight arriving from Los Angeles piped in: "That was quite a show."

The Lufthansa plane was cleared for takeoff seconds before the incident. Its pilots had to slam the brakes so hard, they worried they had become dangerously hot.

"It was close," said an air-control source who believes the EgyptAir flight ended up in the path of the Lufthansa jet after its crew took a wrong turn.

Officials could not say how close the two planes came to colliding. FAA spokeswoman Holly Baker said it might take few days for investigators to sort out some of the basic details of the incident.

A collision would have been an epic tragedy. The Lufthansa jet had 286 passengers, plus crew, the airline said. EgyptAir declined comment, but its Boeing 777s can carry up to 346 passenger, plus crew.

An Airbus A340 has a normal takeoff speed of 180 mph -- meaning that if they'd reached full-speed a half-mile from the Egypt Air plane, the Lufthansa pilots had at best 10 seconds to safely stop their jet.

After the Lufthansa plane pulled off the runway, controllers sent a Port Authority crew to help check its brakes. After a stop at the airport terminal, it headed back to the runway, and finally departed about an hour and 40 minutes after the incident.

It arrived safely in Munich.

The EgyptAir jet took off for Cairo about 90 minutes after the incident.

In April, the wing of a giant Air France A380 clipped the tail of a Delta regional jet parked outside a terminal, sending the smaller jet spinning around wildly. No one was hurt in the incident, which is still under investigation by the National Transportation Safety Board.

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Boeing 727 crashed in the DRC attempting to land during stormy weather. Witnesses say the wheels never touched the runway. 112 on board and so far 50 confirmed dead and 50 survivors.
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Old July 9th, 2011, 05:49 AM   #385
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DR Congo plane crashes at Kisangani airport

8 July 2011 Last updated at 23:34 GMT

A passenger plane with 112 people on board has crashed at Kisangani airport in the Democratic Republic of Congo, officials say.

More than 50 people have been found alive, but more than 50 others are known to have died, reports say. Many of the injured are badly burned.

The plane, operated by the Congolese airline Hewa Bora, had tried to land in bad weather, officials said.

The Boeing 727 had flown from the capital, Kinshasa.

"The pilot tried to land but apparently they didn't touch the runway," Hewa Bora chief executive Stavros Papaioannou told Reuters.

Government spokesman Lambert Mende said the aircraft had crashed very close to the airport during a thunderstorm.

A official at Kinsangani airport said he saw the plane hit the ground in a forest area and end up in a bamboo grove, where it caught fire.

A witness said 53 bodies had been recovered, including those of the two pilots.

Many of the injured are said to have suffered severe burns and the death toll is expected to rise.
Blacklisted airline

Hewa Bora is a private Congolese airline that runs scheduled flights from Kinshasa to the central city of Kisangani and other destinations.

The firm is on a European Union airline blacklist over safety concerns.

Hewa Bora has been involved in four previous incidents of concern, according to the Aviation Safety Network website, including a 2008 crash when a DC-9 crashed on take-off in the Congolese town of Goma. More than 40 people died, most of them on the ground.

According to Hewa Bora's website, the airline has eight planes in its fleet: five MD-82s, two Boeing 727s and one Boeing 727-266 ER.

All other airlines certified by authorities in DR Congo are also on the EU blacklist.

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Old July 13th, 2011, 03:48 PM   #386
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unfortunate news from 13/July/2011

Plane crash in Recife, PE, Brazil.

The aircraft was a LET-410, owned by the regional NOAR airline




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13 July 2011 Last updated at 12:27 GMT

Brazil plane crashes - all 16 on board killed

A twin-engined aircraft has crashed in north-east Brazil, killing all 16 on board, officials say.

The plane took off from the city of Recife en route to Natal and immediately reported problems.

It is reported that the aircraft tried to make an emergency landing on the beach in Recife, but it crashed on an empty lot.

Witnesses said the plane burst into flames.

Brazilian media report that fire crews were sent to the scene and have brought the fire under control.

Accoridng to the authorities, the plane came down on wasteland between two Recife neighbourhoods, Piedade and Boa Viagem.

The twin-engined L410 was operated by Noar Airlines and took off from Recife at 0615 local time (0915 GMT), officials said.



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Plane crash in Brazil kills 16

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SAO PAULO -- A regional airliner crashed in a northeastern city in Brazil Monday, killing all 16 people on board, the nation's Air Force said.

The crew of the twin-engine aircraft belonging to Noar Airlines reported problems shortly after taking off about 7 a.m. (6 a.m. EDT; 1000 GMT) from the city of Recife en route to the city of Natal.

The Air Force did not indicate what the problems were or what caused the crash, but said it is investigating.

The pilot tried to make an emergency landing in a vacant lot near a beach on the outskirts of the city's center, near several apartment buildings. But witnesses said the aircraft went down hard and burst into flames.

Noar Airlines' website says it began operations in June 2010 and that it makes 278 flights a week. It owns a fleet of four small planes.


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Whoa....that was insane!! You know the passengers were defecating themselves until the very end!!
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Old July 26th, 2011, 05:07 PM   #388
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Seventy-eight people were killed and three injured Tuesday when a Moroccan military plane slammed into a mountainside in bad weather in the country's south, the Moroccan military said.

The Hercules C-130 aircraft crashed into a mountain 10 kilometres (six miles) northeast of Guelmim, located about 830 kilometres (215 miles) south of Rabat, an army statement said.

"There are 78 dead and three seriously injured", it said.

The plane was flying from the southern city of Agadir to Laayoune in the Western Sahara with "six crew, 60 soldiers and 12 civilians", it added.

The statement blamed the accident on "bad weather conditions".

"This is a military plane that is used for the transport of troops, but also of their families. It is widely used in the Sahara," an interior ministry official added.

"Above all, it was the fog and bad weather conditions that are believed to be behind this accident. But for the moment, we don't have enough information," the source said.
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South Korean cargo plane carrying 2 crashes
APBy SAM KIM - Associated Press
28 July 2011

SEOUL, South Korea (AP) — An Asiana Airlines cargo plane carrying two people crashed into waters off South Korea's southern resort island of Jeju on Thursday, an airline official said.

The plane crashed after reporting a mechanical problem and losing contact with air traffic workers, airline official Kim Dong-won said.

Five coast guard patrol boats and four helicopters were searching the area for signs of the pilot and co-pilot, Jeju coast guard spokesman Choi Kyu-mo said.

Coast guard searchers have recovered part of a wing with an Asiana Airlines logo on it, life jackets and parts of a pilot seat, the coast guard said in a statement.

The plane had taken off from South Korea's Incheon International Airport, west of Seoul, and was bound for Pudong in China, Asian Airlines said in a statement. It was carrying computers, semiconductors, paint and resin solution among others, it said.

Asiana officials got a report early Thursday morning from the pilot that the Boeing-747, which was southwest of Jeju, was having mechanical difficulties and would try to make its way to the island's airport, said Jason Kim, a spokesman for Asiana.

Officials then lost contact with the plane and asked the South Korean coast guard to investigate, Kim said. The airline also sent its own emergency specialists to the area.

South Korea has been lashed with extraordinarily heavy rain this week, with landslides and floods killing dozens and causing havoc. Kim said it was unclear whether the weather had caused any problems for the plane.

Coast guard officials said there was no rain in the area but stronger-than-normal wind.

North and South Korea are in a tense military standoff across their heavily armed border, but there was nothing to immediately indicate that the crash had any military connection.

Asiana Airlines was in the news last month when two South Korean marines fired rifles at an Asiana plane carrying 119 people.

South Korea's military later apologized, saying the marines mistook the plane for a North Korean military aircraft. The military said it planned to strengthen training so troops can better distinguish civilian planes. Officials said the plane wasn't in range of the rifle fire.

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Light aircraft crashes into houses in Manchester.

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Officers were called to Newlands Avenue, Peel Green, Salford, at about 12:20 BST following reports a plane had collided with several properties.
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More info about flight AF 447
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Old July 30th, 2011, 06:39 PM   #393
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Plane crashes in Guyana.
'Broke in two' line makes me immediatley think it was a Boeing, possibly a 737.

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Resolute Bay plane crash probe begins
3 survivors in stable condition, RCMP says

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Posted: Aug 21, 2011 8:13 AM CT

Investigators will begin piecing together the final moments of First Air flight 6560 on Sunday to determine why the passenger jet crashed near Resolute Bay, Nunavut, in Canada's High Arctic, killing 12 people and injuring three others on board.

The Boeing 737-200 was travelling from Yellowknife to the community of Resolute with 15 people on board, including four crew members, when it went down mid-Saturday near the remote Arctic community. Witnesses said the aircraft crashed into a small hill.

"You could see parts of the plane everywhere … tail, nose, everything," said Saroomie Manik, a former mayor of the community who went to the site.

RCMP in Nunavut confirmed on Sunday the three survivors are all reported to be in stable condition.

A seven-year-old girl and a 48-year-old man have been transported to Ottawa General Hospital for further treatment, while a 23-year-old woman is still receiving medical care in Qikiqtani General Hospital in Iqaluit, Nunavut, RCMP said in a release.

The Transportation Safety Board of Canada said it is still too early to speculate what might have caused the crash.

In a statement confirming the crash, First Air said the plane's last reported communication was at 12:40 p.m. CT, approximately eight kilometres from the airport, and that the plane went down 10 minutes later.

RCMP say there were 15 people on board First Air flight 6560, including four crew.RCMP say there were 15 people on board First Air flight 6560, including four crew. Larry MacDougal/Canadian PressTSB spokesman Chris Krepski said investigators will spend Sunday continuing to gather information at the scene of the crash while the plane's black box flight recorders are sent to Ottawa for analysis.

The flight data recorder records the aircraft's pitch, roll, bank and altitude, how it was flying as crew-to-crew communications in the cockpit, Krepski told CBC News on Sunday morning.

TSB investigators will be interviewing witnesses, looking at the wreckage, talking to air traffic control, examining radar data and communications records and weather reports. The investigators will also review the crew's training records and experience, along with the aircraft's maintenance records, Krepski added.

Members of the Canadian Forces participating in the annual military exercise Operation Nanook responded to the crash on Saturday, while the RCMP said they had 11 members on the ground in Resolute and residents also assisted in the rescue.
'Rippling effect' throughout North

CBC reporter Patricia Bell said that Aziz (Ozzie) Kheraj, who owns the South Camp Inn in Resolute, had two granddaughters on the plane. One of the girls died, she said.

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First Air customer care centre: 1-800-750-0923

Meanwhile, in Yellowknife, where the flight originated and the flight's crew were believed to be based, news of the crash had a "rippling effect" through the community, the CBC's Juanita Taylor said Sunday.

Joe McBryan, owner of Buffalo Airways, told CBC News "everyone knows everyone" in the Far North's tight-knit aviation community.

"When something like this happens, it hits home," he said, his voice choked up.

Prime Minister Stephen Harper, who is scheduled to travel to Resolute on Monday for his annual trip to the Arctic, said in a statement he was "deeply saddened by news of this tragic plane crash near Resolute Bay.

"Our thoughts and prayers are with the families and friends of those passengers who lost their lives in this tragedy. We also wish a speedy recovery to those who were injured."

Gov.-Gen. David Johnston, who is currently touring the Arctic, was scheduled to hold events in Resolute on Sunday, but cancelled them given the tragedy. A spokeswoman from Johnston's office said no one from the official delegation was involved in the crash, while Johnston and his wife Sharon said in a statement their "thoughts and prayers go out to all those affected by this tragic event."

First Air said all flights out of Yellowknife Saturday were postponed. The company said it will hold a news conference at its Kanata, Ont., headquarters on Sunday at 11 a.m. ET.

The airline provides scheduled passenger and cargo service between 25 northern communities with connections to Edmonton, Winnipeg, Montreal and Ottawa.

The airline began in 1946 as Bradley Air Services, offering charter, surveying, passenger and cargo flights across northern Canada.
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Resolute passengers had no warning of crash
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Posted: Aug 24, 2011 12:18 PM ET

Passengers on First Air Flight 65-60 didn't know anything was wrong until the plane hit the ground near Resolute, Nunavut, one of the three survivors has told the RCMP.

Twelve people were killed when the Boeing 737-200 passenger plane crashed near the Resolute airport on Saturday. Only one child and two adults survived.

Police have been able to talk to at least one survivor about the flight's final moments, says Supt. Howard Eaton of the Nunavut RCMP.

"They knew they were going in on approach and everything looked normal," Eaton said. "They saw a couple of buildings when they were looking out. And then bang. There was no warning. The bells didn't ring. It just happened suddenly.

"There was no real warning from anybody that they were in trouble. I think it was unexpected."

Eaton said the crash site is one of the most challenging Nunavut RCMP have ever dealt with.

Thousands of tiny pieces of debris from the plane and cargo are scattered over the site, leaving officers astonished that anyone lived through the crash.

The crash was the focus of Prime Minister Stephen Harper's visit to Resolute on Tuesday during his annual Arctic tour.

He met with Nunavut leaders, community members and first responders to discuss the emergency response to the tragedy. He also dismissed as impractical a suggestion that full emergency response resources be established across the North.
Polar bears getting close

The plane crash has been a tough case for the Mounties, and wind and rain have made the work difficult, Eaton said. Officers have even had to frighten away polar bears.

The RCMP have been interviewing witnesses who were on the ground when the plane slammed into a hill.

The Transportation Safety Board of Canada is now taking over the crash scene to try to determine what went wrong.

In Ottawa, meanwhile, investigators at a lab have been retrieving information this week from the aircraft's flight recorders, which were flown to the capital for analysis on Sunday.
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Chilean air force plane crashes in Pacific
3 September 2011 Last updated at 07:06 GMT

Twenty-one people are feared dead after a Chilean air force plane crashed in the Pacific Ocean on its way to the remote Juan Fernandez islands.

Chilean Defence Minister Andres Allamand said the Casa-212 plane had twice tried to land at the islands' airport before going missing.

The islands' mayor said conditions were rough and windy, and passengers' luggage had been spotted in the water.

A TV crew was on board, including popular presenter Felipe Camiroaga.

He had been flying to the islands with a five-strong crew from Chile's national TV programme Buenos Dias a Todos - Good Morning Everyone - to film a piece on reconstruction projects after a magnitude-8.8 earthquake and tsunami devastated the islands in February 2010.

The air force earlier said that as the plane was "getting closer to the island, radio communication with the airplane was lost", prompting a search effort by the navy and air force.

'Hard blow'

Mayor Leopoldo Gonzalez told state television TVN that some wreckage had been spotted, suggesting that the plane had crashed.

"We assume that there was an accident and that there are no survivors," he said, adding that clothing, passengers' suitcases and some sandals had been found in waters about one kilometre (0.6 mile) from the islands' landing strip.

Mr Allamand, however, said the plane was still listed as "missing".

He said a navy frigate had been sent with a helicopter to carry out search and rescue work, and that a Hercules 130 plane was due to join the search.

Chilean President Sebastian Pinera said that his thoughts were with the families of those on board the plane, which had taken off from the capital Santiago at 14.00 (17.00 GMT) on Friday and lost contact with air traffic control some four hours later.

"I empathise with the anguish and uncertainty the relatives the 21 passengers aboard the plane, which is presumed to have gone down, are living through at this moment.

"This is a very hard blow for our country," he said.

One of those on board was the businessman Felipe Cubillos - Defence Minister Allamand's brother in law - who had also been working on post-earthquake reconstruction with the group Desafio Levantemos Chile.

Chileans gathered at the headquarters of TVN after the Santiago station reported that five of its staff, including Mr Camiroaga, were among the passengers.

Dozens of people lit candles and prayed outside the gates, Reuters news agency reports.

As well as co-hosting Buenos Dias a Todos, Mr Camiroaga, 44, fronted the late-night talk show Animal Nocturno (Nocturnal Animal).

The Juan Fernandez islands lie around 420 miles (670 km) off Chile's coast, and are thought to have inspired the setting for Daniel Defoe's classic shipwreck novel Robinson Crusoe.

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Reports said the plane burst into flames shortly after taking off from an airport at the city of Yaroslavl, about 250km (160 miles) north-east of Moscow.

Members of the Lokomotiv Yaroslavl hockey team were on board the plane on their way to Minsk in Belarus.

The plane, a Yak-42, had a capacity of more than 100 passengers, but it is thought only 45 people were on board.
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Russian ice-hockey team killed in plane crash


At least 45 people died on Wednesday afternoon when a plane carrying the Lokomotiv Yaroslavl ice hockey team crashed during take-off near Yaroslavl, some 250 km from Moscow, emergencies officials said.

Two people survived the crash, investigators said. The cause of the accident has not yet been established.
Eight members of the crew were among the dead.
The Yak-42 plane was carrying the team to Minsk, the Belarusian capital, for the start of the new Kontinental Hockey League (KHL). The side is coached by Canadian Brad McCrimmon, a former Detroit Red Wings assistant.

The plane crashed at 4:00 p.m. Moscow time (noon GMT).
The plane fell to earth straight after take-off and burst into flames.
"Passenger body parts were found in the Volga River, where part of the fuselage fell," a police source said.
President Dmitry Medvedev, who was due to take part in a political forum in Yaroslavl on Thursday, has expressed his condolences to the families of the victims. His press-secretary said Medvedev would visit the site of the crash.

One of the survivors was Russian national side player Alexander Galimov. The other was a member of the crew, a club official said. Galimov is reported to have suffered burns on 80% of his body.

Lokomotiv has a number of former NHL stars on the books, including former Minnesota Wild and Vancouver Canucks centre Pavol Demitra, Josef Vasicek, also a centre formerly with the New York Islanders and Carolina Hurricanes, and Belarusian defenseman Ruslan Salei, formerly of the Anaheim Mighty Ducks, Colorado Avalanche and the Red Wings.
The club's entire first team was on board the plane.
Lokomotiv Yaroslavl, founded in 1949 as the team of the Railways Ministry, is one of Russia’s leading hockey teams and came runner up in the nascent Kontinental Hockey League in 2008 and 2009. In 1997 it took the Russian Superleague title and won back-to-back championships in 2002 and 2003. It was one of the favorites for this year’s Kontinental Hockey League.

The season-opening game between reigning champion Salavat Yulaev and Atlant in the city of Ufa was cancelled as news of the disaster broke.
Russia has a poor aviation safety record. President Dmitry Medvedev has promised to take Soviet-era planes out of service from next year. The Yak-42 has been in service since 1980.
Wednesday's crash comes 32 years after 17 players from the Soviet football club Pakhtakor were killed as the team was flying to a match, also in Minsk.

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Boeing 767 lands on belly after undercarriage failure

WARSAW — A Boeing 767 with 231 people on board made an emergency landing Tuesday, skidding down the runway on its belly at Warsaw airport after its landing gear failed, a spokesman for Poland's LOT airline told AFP.

Fire and ambulance crews were deployed and all 220 passengers and 11 crew on the plane of national carrier LOT Polish Airlines were able to disembark safely.

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The landing was captured on video.



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