daily menu » rate the banner | guess the city | one on oneforums map | privacy policy | DMCA | news magazine | posting guidelines

Go Back   SkyscraperCity > Infrastructure and Mobility Forums > Airports and Aviation

Airports and Aviation » Airports | Photos and Videos



Global Announcement

As a general reminder, please respect others and respect copyrights. Go here to familiarize yourself with our posting policy.


Reply

 
Thread Tools
Old January 24th, 2013, 05:59 AM   #481
the glimpser
Asean Urbanite
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Singapore, Manila
Posts: 1,215
Likes (Received): 54

I'm sharing this article but I'd like to post the link only:

The World's 10 Most Dangerous Airlines
Business Insider
Jan. 22, 2013, 12:18 PM

http://www.businessinsider.com/the-w...irlines-2013-1
the glimpser no está en línea   Reply With Quote

Sponsored Links
Old January 26th, 2013, 02:21 AM   #482
[email protected]
Global Citizen
 
R@ptor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Frankfurt
Posts: 4,303
Likes (Received): 6410

Ridiculous list. 30 years is a lot of time and many things can change.

China Airlines, the world's most dangerous airline?

They have a modern fleet, well-trained pilots, good maintenance staff, a good organization, etc. All things that can't be said about at least 3/4 of all African carriers for example.

Also, not all hull losses are the same. There were already plenty of accidents that resulted in a hull loss with zero fatalities.

Another example would be the fact that f.e. Korean Air is the airline with the second most fatalities according to that list. But that also includes the flight that was shot down by the Soviets in 1983, which is responsible for more than half of those casulties and something that is hardly Korean Air's fault or makes them an unsafe airline.
R@ptor no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old January 29th, 2013, 01:16 PM   #483
fozzy
Registered User
 
fozzy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: leeds
Posts: 1,211
Likes (Received): 84

A CRJ-200 aircraft has crashed near Almaty in Kazakhstan with 20 people onboard. It crashed in thick fog according to reports and it's not looking like there are any survivors R.I.P.
fozzy no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old January 29th, 2013, 03:07 PM   #484
Fatfield
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 488
Likes (Received): 93

BBC report on the above.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-21243203
Fatfield no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old February 14th, 2013, 03:34 PM   #485
Fatfield
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 488
Likes (Received): 93

There was a crash in Donetsk last night resulting in 5 fatalities.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-21451432

The five confirmed fatalities were Borussia Dortmund fans on their way to watch their team play Shakhtar Donetsk in the European Cup.

http://www.football.co.uk/borussia_d...s3709534.shtml
Fatfield no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old February 17th, 2013, 10:04 AM   #486
timo9
11 YEARS HERE!
 
timo9's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 15,059
Likes (Received): 2078

Quote:
Originally Posted by [email protected] View Post
Ridiculous list. 30 years is a lot of time and many things can change.

China Airlines, the world's most dangerous airline?

They have a modern fleet, well-trained pilots, good maintenance staff, a good organization, etc. All things that can't be said about at least 3/4 of all African carriers for example.

Also, not all hull losses are the same. There were already plenty of accidents that resulted in a hull loss with zero fatalities.

Another example would be the fact that f.e. Korean Air is the airline with the second most fatalities according to that list. But that also includes the flight that was shot down by the Soviets in 1983, which is responsible for more than half of those casulties and something that is hardly Korean Air's fault or makes them an unsafe airline.
I think the most dangerous one is Air France
timo9 no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old April 13th, 2013, 11:13 AM   #487
Wezza
©
 
Wezza's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Townsville
Posts: 8,888
Likes (Received): 996

Apparently a Lion Air 737 has overrun the runway at DPS & ended up in the ocean. From what I can gather, all on board have survived.

__________________

bozenBDJ liked this post
Wezza no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old April 13th, 2013, 12:47 PM   #488
Vrooms
threeyearson.
 
Vrooms's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Singapore
Posts: 9,676
Likes (Received): 1641

Some news on this incident:

Source: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...a-in-Bali.html
Quote:
Plane crashes into the sea in Bali
A plane has overshot the runway in Bali, landing in the sea.


The aircraft, a Lion Air plane, was carrying 172 passengers.

An official told AFP that all the passengers were unharmed.

The plane careered off the runway at Denpasar International Airport - the main transport hub for Bali.

The cause of the accident remains unclear, but Arif Wahyunadi, chief of police for Bali, said the plane originated in the city of Bandung and was landing in Bali.

Local TV showed a picture of a Boeing passenger jet intact with a slightly ruptured fuselage and passengers in the water. Media reports said the plane was sitting in shallow waters 200-300 metres off the end of the runway.
__________________
🔥🚀

Last edited by Vrooms; April 13th, 2013 at 12:54 PM.
Vrooms no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old April 13th, 2013, 02:29 PM   #489
Wezza
©
 
Wezza's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Townsville
Posts: 8,888
Likes (Received): 996


I read somewhere else that it actually wasn't a runway overshoot but a ditching? Not sure how true that is though.
Wezza no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old April 13th, 2013, 02:38 PM   #490
Vrooms
threeyearson.
 
Vrooms's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Singapore
Posts: 9,676
Likes (Received): 1641

Not sure what really happened as well In this article: http://www.theborneopost.com/2013/04...ashes-in-bali/ it says the plane was arriving from london
__________________
🔥🚀
Vrooms no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old April 13th, 2013, 02:39 PM   #491
Cosmin
Euro Mod
 
Cosmin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Bucharest
Posts: 17,285
Likes (Received): 5961

Wezza, The Aviation Herald seems to support this assertion. Peculiar, to say the least, but if it's true that the a/c was on final for 09, then the pictures clearly show it was a ditch, not an overrun, because the 27 end of the runway looks vastly different (4-lane road + vegetation).

Accident: Lionar B738 at Denpasar on Apr 13th 2013, came to stop in sea



Superficially, it looks like THY 1951 at AMS.

Last edited by Cosmin; April 13th, 2013 at 02:46 PM.
Cosmin no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old April 13th, 2013, 02:52 PM   #492
Wezza
©
 
Wezza's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Townsville
Posts: 8,888
Likes (Received): 996

Hmmm it will be interesting to see the report when it surfaces.
Wezza no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old April 13th, 2013, 03:04 PM   #493
jddc7
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 73
Likes (Received): 13

always an interesting landing when coming in. Gets pretty low to the ocean
jddc7 no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old April 13th, 2013, 06:07 PM   #494
Cosmin
Euro Mod
 
Cosmin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Bucharest
Posts: 17,285
Likes (Received): 5961

All information points to an undershoot.

An interesting analysis with more info: Lion Air 737-800 undershoots and ends up in the water



image hosted on flickr


image hosted on flickr


image hosted on flickr


image hosted on flickr
Cosmin no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old April 13th, 2013, 06:22 PM   #495
Momo1435
-----アンジュルム-----
 
Momo1435's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: アルフェナンデンライン
Posts: 35,257
Likes (Received): 63058

This was Lion Air's newest plane, it was delivered on the 20 March so it didn't last a month. It's going to be interesting to know about the cause of the accident, since new planes just don't fall out of the sky like this.

And this is not going to be good for their already shaky reputation, hopefully it won't have an impact on the intercontinental ambitions of some other Indonesian carriers. It would be a big problem for Garuda if their permission to fly to the EU is withdrawn again.
__________________
Support your Idols
キタ ━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━ ฅ(๑⊙д⊙๑)ฅ!! ━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━!!!
Japan Projects & Construction
Momo1435 no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old April 13th, 2013, 06:30 PM   #496
hkskyline
Hong Kong
 
hkskyline's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Posts: 86,954
Likes (Received): 18212

Undershoot? Seems like pilot negligence!
__________________
Hong Kong Photo Gallery - Click Here for the Hong Kong Galleries

World Photo Gallery - | St. Petersburg, Russia | Pyongyang | Tokyo | Istanbul | Dubai | Shanghai | Mumbai | Bangkok | Sydney

New York, London, Prague, Iceland, Rocky Mountains, Angkor Wat, Sri Lanka, Poland, Myanmar, and much more!
hkskyline no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old April 13th, 2013, 06:55 PM   #497
David-80
Le Nozze di Figaro...
 
David-80's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Planet Earth
Posts: 7,127

not if you have microbust or downdraft (windshear).

seriously, lets not speculate until further investigation is finished


Cheers
__________________
Intel Inside, Idiot outside
David-80 no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old April 14th, 2013, 05:31 AM   #498
bozenBDJ
the World Trade Center
 
bozenBDJ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: BDJ, ID-KS
Posts: 23,631
Likes (Received): 9721

Looks like Costa Concordia



+, TODAY Show (nbc)
http://www.today.com/video/today/51527375
bozenBDJ no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old April 14th, 2013, 05:33 AM   #499
bozenBDJ
the World Trade Center
 
bozenBDJ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: BDJ, ID-KS
Posts: 23,631
Likes (Received): 9721

"a Miracle In The Sea"
-Lester Holt, NBC Nightly News

"That was a case of Brilliant Airmanship"
-Tom Casey, Retired American Airlines Pilot

http://www.nbcnews.com/video/nightly...30926#51530926
Source : NBC Nightly News w/ Lester Holt (4.13.13)
bozenBDJ no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old April 14th, 2013, 05:35 AM   #500
bozenBDJ
the World Trade Center
 
bozenBDJ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: BDJ, ID-KS
Posts: 23,631
Likes (Received): 9721





source:http://www.indoflyer.net/forum/tm.as...6&mpage=5&key=
bozenBDJ no está en línea   Reply With Quote


Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Related topics on SkyscraperCity


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 04:54 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Feedback Buttons provided by Advanced Post Thanks / Like (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2018 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

vBulletin Optimisation provided by vB Optimise (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2018 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

SkyscraperCity ☆ In Urbanity We trust ☆ about us | privacy policy | DMCA policy

tech management by Sysprosium