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Old March 8th, 2014, 10:34 AM   #761
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Malaysia Airlines says it lost contact with plane carrying 239 people on route to Beijing, missing Flight MH370 is carrying 227 passengers and 12 crew members:
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Old March 8th, 2014, 10:55 AM   #762
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Btw, aren't there any US/Chinese AWACS around those areas that could possibly help with the location?
No, as the incident occurred in waters between Malaysia and Vietnam neither the US nor China have regular AEW&C coverage of the area.

As many people know ATC radars do not track commercial airliners actively, they rely on onboard transponders to report their heading, speed, and altitude. So if a catastrophic event happened and the transponder cease to operate then the aircraft will appear to "disappear" from radar. Since the aircraft is not painted by a primary radar it's impossible to get a final descent trajectory (from lost of altitude to where it disappears beyond the radar's line of sight.)
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Old March 8th, 2014, 11:16 AM   #763
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Malaysian plane crashes off Vietnam coast; 5 Indians on board

A Beijing-bound Malaysian Airlines plane that went missing with 239 people on board, including five Indians, today crashed into waters off Vietnam's southern Phu Quoc Island, Vietnamese media reported.


The Boeing 777-200 Flight MH370 with 227 passengers and 12 crew members on board crashed 250 km off coast of Tho Chu island, Vietnamese newspaper Tuoi Tre (Youth) quoted Rear Admiral Ngo Van Phat, political commissar of the Fifth Naval Region of Vietnam, as saying.

A fresh passengers' list issued by the airline said five Indians were among the 239 passengers on board the aircraft, correcting its previous account in which Indians were not mentioned.

"At the moment, there are no Vietnamese navy boats in that area so we have to ask boats from Phu Quoc island to be prepared for rescue," the admiral said.

From the report it was not clear how the admiral knew about the crash or whether the wreckage of the ill-fated plane has been located.

There is no confirmation about the report from the Malaysian authorities.

Chinese media is reporting the plane may have crashed into the South China Sea, state-run Xinhua news agency said.

The plane took off at 12:41 a.m. (local time) and lost contact with Subang Air Traffic Control near Kuala Lumpur almost two hours later at 2:40 a.m, the airlines said.

The fresh list of passengers issued by the airline mentions people of 14 nationalities including Indians.

The plane disappeared in the night somewhere over South China Sea while enroute to Beijing from Kuala Lumpur.

"Focus of the airline is to work with the emergency responders and authorities and mobilize its full support," the Malaysia Airlines CEO Ahmad Jauhari Yahya earlier said.

He said the pilot of the missing aircraft, identified as Capt. Zaharie Ahmad Shah, had 18365 hours of experience and joined the airlines in 1981.

Those on board include 5 Indians, 152 Chinese, 38 Malaysians, 7 Indonesians, 6 Australians, 3 French, 4 including an infant from the US, 2 New Zealanders, 2 Ukrainians, 2 Canadians, 1 each from Russia, Italy, Taiwan, Netherlands and Austria.

Malaysia Airlines is currently working with the authorities who have activated their Search and Rescue team to locate the aircraft, Jauhari said.

"Our team is currently calling the next-of-kin of passengers and crew," he added.

Confusion and chaos prevailed in Beijing where the planed was due to land at 6.30 AM.

Relatives of the 152 Chinese passengers rushed to the airport and later the Malaysian Airline office to find about the fate of their near dear ones.

A passenger manifest originating from China which has been circulating online and also published by Star online mentions the Indians along with their passport numbers.

The names include Chetna Kolekar, Swanand Kolekar, Suresh Kolekar, Chandrika Sharma and Prahlad Shirsatha. One Indian-origin Canadian Muktesh Mukherjee was also on board.

Malaysian authorities continued to state that a massive search and rescue operation was on and no wreckage had been sited so far.

The plane was cruising at 36,000 feet when it is reported to have crashed.

Sources told the New Straits Times that assets from the Malaysian Maritime Enforcement Agency, Royal Malaysian Navy and Royal Malaysian Air Force had been deployed to the area for a search and rescue mission this morning.

"It was presumed that the flight might be somewhere 100 nautical miles east of Kota Baru and 120 nautical miles southern of Vietnam’s tip," an unnamed source said.

Meanwhile, two Chinese maritime rescue ships have left to the South China Sea to help in rescue work.

Malaysian Prime Minister Najib Razak has instructed all the relevant authorities to take immediate measure in identifying the missing aircraft.

Malaysian Defence Minister Hishammuddin Hussein said he has instructed all relevant agencies including TUDM (Royal Malaysian Air Force) to work together (in) locating the plane.

The aircraft came into service in 2002. Malaysia has 15 Boeing 777-200 series.
Earlier, Vice President operations control Fuad sharuji said the airlines had got in touch with five of its flights in air to see if they had heard from the missing plane but they had got no response.

Several ATC of nearby countries had also been contacted by the airline, Fuad said.
The aircraft had a Code share with China southern airline. The plane had entered Vietnamese airspace when it lost control.

Chinese ships and aircraft are on standby to locate and rescue the missing Malaysian plane carrying more than 150 Chinese passengers to Beijing.

Chinese Minister of Transport Yang Chuantang announced the launch of the highest-degree emergency response mechanism.

The ministry is closely observing the situation and actively coordinating with domestic as well as maritime rescue authorities and civil aviation administrations in Malaysia and Vietnam, Xinhua quoted him as saying.

Eight ships belonging to the Nanhai Rescue Bureau and the Hainan Maritime Safety Administration are waiting for orders. An aircraft fleet is also ready to take off, he said.

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Old March 8th, 2014, 11:20 AM   #764
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Meanwhile in another aviation incidence, there is report that an A320 of an Indian airline has caught fire while landing in Nepal. All passengers have safely been evacuated..

I'm trying to sort out the details, but the incident definitely happen
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Old March 8th, 2014, 11:29 AM   #765
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Old March 8th, 2014, 11:34 AM   #766
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Old March 8th, 2014, 11:38 AM   #767
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Considering the airline's and aircraft's track records, crew's experience, calm weather conditions and abrupt disappearance, I very much doubt it was any sort of human error or technical malfunction.

It very much looks like an explosion onboard. Anything more gradual would definitely give them the time to declare emergency. An engine flameout would give them more than enough survival chances through controlled ditching, not forgetting the telemetry would still be relayed to the airline's HQ.

I expect no survivors sadly...
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Old March 8th, 2014, 11:39 AM   #768
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i think this accident almost like air france crash 2009...
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Old March 8th, 2014, 11:47 AM   #769
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Saturday, March 08, 04:20 PM MYT +0800 Malaysia Airlines MH370 Flight Incident - 4th Media Statement

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Malaysia Airlines is still unable to establish any contact or determine the whereabouts of flight MH370. Earlier today, Subang ATC had lost contact with the aircraft at 2.40am. The last known position of MH370 before it disappeared off the radar was 065515 North (longitude) and 1033443 East (latitude).

We are still trying to locate the current location of the flight based on the last known position of the aircraft. We are working with the International search and rescue teams in trying to locate the aircraft. So far, we have not received any emergency signals or distress messages from MH370. We are working with authorities and assure that all sources are deployed to assist with the search and rescue mission.
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Old March 8th, 2014, 11:50 AM   #770
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Considering the airline's and aircraft's track records, crew's experience, calm weather conditions and abrupt disappearance, I very much doubt it was any sort of human error or technical malfunction.

It very much looks like an explosion onboard. Anything more gradual would definitely give them the time to declare emergency. An engine flameout would give them more than enough survival chances through controlled ditching, not forgetting the telemetry would still be relayed to the airline's HQ.

I expect no survivors sadly...
That is exactly what I have been thinking....
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Old March 8th, 2014, 11:53 AM   #771
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Old March 8th, 2014, 12:01 PM   #772
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It's said family or heir goes to crash site for identifying process...
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Here is the confirmation about the Indian airline A320(IndiGo)

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An IndiGo airlines Airbus A320-232 bearing registration VT-IEU performing flight 6E-031 from New Delhi, Indira Gandhi airport, India to Kathmandu Tribuvan airport, Nepal, with 175 passengers, 1 infant and 6 crew members has just made a normal landing around 12:35 local (12:20 IST 06:50 UTC).

After taxiing and parking at the stand, around 12:39 the ground engineer observed smoke and fire from the right brake assembly and advised evacuation of all passengers and crew. 171 passengers were evacuated via the escape slides, by which time the fire was under control. The balance passengers and crew disembarked the aircraft via the forward step ladder.
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No, as the incident occurred in waters between Malaysia and Vietnam neither the US nor China have regular AEW&C coverage of the area.
There are two conflicting reports...a website based reports that claim to have lost track just 40 mins into the flight, and the official reports that claim to have lost contact 2hrs into the flight.

I tend to believe the official ones are more reliable than those based on hobbyists, and since total flight time is 5.5 hrs, this flight should have been close to Chinese airspace.

Edit: Map added. This is what I am talking about.



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There are two conflicting reports...a website based reports that claim to have lost track just 40 mins into the flight, and the official reports that claim to have lost contact 2hrs into the flight.

I tend to believe the official ones are more reliable than those based on hobbyists, and since total flight time is 5.5 hrs, this flight should have been close to Chinese airspace.

Edit: Map added. This is what I am talking about.
Mass media probably mistook the point at which MH370 left KL FIR as the moment of loss of contact. 40 minutes from the takeoff should be about that area and nowhere near Vietnam coastline yet.

The moment of the actual disappearance is clearly marked, down to the coordinates, velocity and altitude, as the last transmission from the aircraft's ACARS to Malaysian Airlines' ops department.
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KUALA LUMPUR, March 8 (Reuters) - A Malaysia Airlines flight carrying 227 passengers and 12 crew crashed in the South China Sea on Saturday, Vietnamese state media said, quoting a senior naval official.



The Boeing 777-200ER flight from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing had been missing for hours when Vietnam's Tuoi Tre news quoted Admiral Ngo Van Phat as saying he had asked boats from an island off south Vietnam to rush to the crash site.

If the report is confirmed, it would mark the U.S.-built airliner's deadliest crash since entering service 19 years ago.

Malaysia Airlines had yet to confirm that the aircraft had crashed. It said earlier in the day that no distress signal had been given and cited early speculation that the plane may have landed in Nanming in southern China.

Flight MH370, operating a Boeing 777-200ER aircraft, last had contact with air traffic controllers 120 nautical miles off the east coast of the Malaysian town of Kota Bharu, Malaysia Airlines chief executive Ahmad Jauhari Yahya said in a statement read to a news conference in Kuala Lumpur.

Malaysia and Vietnam were conducting a joint search and rescue, he said but gave no details. China has also sent two maritime rescue ships to the South China Sea to help in any rescue, state television said on one of its microblogs.

"We are extremely worried," Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi told reporters in Beijing before the Vietnamese report that the plane had crashed. "The news is very disturbing. We hope everyone on the plane is safe."

The flight left Kuala Lumpur at 12.21 a.m. (1621 GMT Friday) but no trace had been found of the plane hours after it was due to land in the Chinese capital at 6.30 a.m. (2230 GMT Friday) the same day.

"We deeply regret that we have lost all contacts with flight MH370," Jauhari said.

Malaysia Airlines said people from at least 14 nationalities were among the 227 passengers - at least 152 Chinese, 38 Malaysians, seven Indonesians, six Australians, five Indians, four French and three Americans. Two infants were among the passengers.

If it is confirmed that the plane has crashed, the loss would mark the second fatal accident involving a Boeing 777 in less than a year and by far the worst since the jet entered service in 1995.

An Asiana Airlines Boeing 777-200ER crash-landed in San Francisco in July 2013, killing three passengers and injuring more than 180.

Boeing said it was aware of reports that the Malaysia Airlines plane was missing and was monitoring the situation but had no further comment. The flight was operating as a China Southern Airlines codeshare.

An official at the Civil Aviation Authority of Vietnam (CAAV) said the plane had failed to check in as scheduled at 1721 GMT while it was flying over the sea between Malaysia and Ho Chi Minh city.
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Seriously WTF is wrong with these people. So you see someone in deep grief after receiving the terrible news that one of your loved ones has just been killed and you have nothing better to do than stick a camera in the face of that person. Stupid vermin.

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I don't get it.

For $100 I bought an Android 3G phone with GPS, then I downloaded a free app that tracks where my phone is, plus a cheapo mobile data plan. So if my phone is lost, even if destroyed, I can simply go directly to the last co-ordinates (to a few metres precision) that was logged onto my PC or another base station. Plus I would have known immediately a catastrophic event had occurred because a log entry every second would not have been received.

For a few hundred dollars more, I could get a satellite version that's supposed to cover most of the planet.

How can a B777 aircraft with the latest technology, costing hundreds of millions of dollars, trillion dollar industry, with hundreds of people on board, where every second counts in a rescue, not have such technology that would enabling it to be found within a 100 metres or so?! Is something seriously wrong?

In the meantime, for our own safety, maybe we should then simply leave our phones quietly switched on (despite what airlines say) with simple, I mean KISS, tracking enabled?

p.s. Hint to MAS: maybe someone did leave their phone switched on and roamed into Vietnam mobile coverage, find the phone then the plane might be nearby.
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