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Old March 15th, 2014, 02:15 PM   #921
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Guys if the ACARS and Transponders were shut off what signals or pinging did the satellites picked up?I have always assumed that any sort of data link will go thru ACARS?
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Old March 15th, 2014, 02:56 PM   #922
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Guys if the ACARS and Transponders were shut off what signals or pinging did the satellites picked up?I have always assumed that any sort of data link will go thru ACARS?
Some engine (Trent 800) signals picked the satellites up. Maybe the Flight ends with empty fuel tanks. The same as Ethiopian-Airlines-Flight 961.

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Old March 15th, 2014, 03:14 PM   #923
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Has it occured to them to maybe search UNDER the sea/ocean instead of looking from over?
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Old March 15th, 2014, 06:51 PM   #924
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it's very very unpredictly



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Old March 15th, 2014, 11:58 PM   #925
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Has it occured to them to maybe search UNDER the sea/ocean instead of looking from over?
Do you think it's that easy to do that? This is a huge area and some very deep seas.
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Old March 16th, 2014, 12:21 AM   #926
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They are already looking with sonar equipment, both to find strange object on the seabed and also to pick up the signal from the ELT. The problem is indeed that it's a huge search area and that it's not even certain that the plane crashed in the designated search areas.

It's looking for a needle in a haystack at this moment.
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Old March 16th, 2014, 03:54 AM   #927
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A map of latest development of MH 370 from Jabatan Penerangan Malaysia
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Old March 16th, 2014, 05:17 AM   #928
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Someone could confirm if this picture taken of a Malaysia 772 does matches with MH370?

It was nocturnal flight, right? Because in the image looks the sun reflecting over the fuselage.



http://www.scmp.com/news/asia/articl...h370-satellite

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Old March 16th, 2014, 11:48 AM   #929
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3 pieces of evidence point to jet's takeover

Aviation experts say 3 pieces of evidence point to takeover of Malaysia Airlines jetliner

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There are three pieces of evidence that aviation safety experts say make it clear the missing Malaysia Airlines jet was taken over by someone who was knowledgeable about how the plane worked.

TRANSPONDER

One clue is that the plane's transponder — a signal system that identifies the plane to radar — was shut off about an hour into the flight.

In order to do that, someone in the cockpit would have to turn a knob with multiple selections to the off position while pressing down at the same time, said John Goglia, a former member of the National Transportation Safety Board. That's something a pilot would know how to do, but it could also be learned by someone who researched the plane on the Internet, he said.

ACARS

Another clue is that part of the Boeing 777's Aircraft Communications Addressing and Reporting System (ACARS) was shut off.

The system, which has two parts, is used to send short messages via a satellite or VHF radio to the airline's home base. The information part of the system was shut down, but not the transmission part. In most planes, the information part of the system can be shut down by hitting cockpit switches in sequence in order to get to a computer screen where an option must be selected using a keypad, said Goglia, an expert on aircraft maintenance.

That's also something a pilot would know how to do, but that could also be discovered through research, he said.

But to turn off the other part of the ACARS, it would be necessary to go to an electronics bay beneath the cockpit. That's something a pilot wouldn't normally know how to do, Goglia said, and it wasn't done in the case of the Malaysia plane. Thus, the ACARS transmitter continued to send out blips that were recorded by the Inmarsat satellite once an hour for four to five hours after the transponder was turned off. The blips don't contain any messages or data, but the satellite can tell in a very broad way what region the blips are coming from and adjusts the angle of its antenna to be ready to receive message in case the ACARS sends them. Investigators are now trying to use data from the satellite to identify the region where the plane was when its last blip was sent.

GUIDED FLIGHT

The third indication is that that after the transponder was turned off and civilian radar lost track of the plane, Malaysian military radar was able to continue to track the plane as it turned west.

The plane was then tracked along a known flight route across the peninsula until it was several hundred miles (kilometers) offshore and beyond the range of military radar. Airliners normally fly from waypoint to waypoint where they can be seen by air traffic controllers who space them out so they don't collide. These lanes in the sky aren't straight lines. In order to follow that course, someone had to be guiding the plane, Goglia said.

Goglia said he is very skeptical of reports the plane was flying erratically while it was being tracked by military radar, including steep ascents to very high altitudes and then sudden, rapid descents. Without a transponder signal, the ability to track planes isn't reliable at very high altitudes or with sudden shifts in altitude, he said.
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BREAKING: Malaysian police say they are examining flight simulator belonging to pilot of missing jet
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Old March 16th, 2014, 12:56 PM   #931
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Number of countries involved in #MH370 search jumped from 14 to 25, Malaysia's transport minister says. He also said "Pilot and co-pilot of missing Malaysia Airlines flight did not ask to fly together"
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Old March 16th, 2014, 04:05 PM   #932
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Was it possible that MH 370 landed here?? - US Naval Support Facility (NSF) Diego Garcia

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Old March 16th, 2014, 05:11 PM   #933
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There's zero chance that it landed on a US military base.

This is no movie, there's no way that the US intelligence agencies or military would hijack a foreign commercial plane and land it on an remote airfield and keep all the passengers hostage for a week.
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Old March 16th, 2014, 08:49 PM   #934
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If they would testing some weapon, maybe they could, but I don't think they are.
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Old March 16th, 2014, 08:53 PM   #935
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I've come to the conclusion that they'll probably never locate the wreckage if it went down in the water. By now even if they spot some debris, the strong currents may have moved them a great distance over a weeks time from the crash site.
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Old March 16th, 2014, 09:34 PM   #936
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That's a likely scenario, especially if the plane flew for hours in the southern direction and crashed somewhere in the Indian Ocean.
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"The missing aircraft is south of Malaysian jungle. The plane lost contact with the control tower and lost their coordinates. There were lots of clouds. He flew for 6 hours and forcibly landed in the jungle. There were less than 100 killed and other passengers were found in poor condition and if not rescued soon may die. You must communicate this to the international agencies RESCUE "

That information was in internet ...I am writing to that person for more information...PLEASE write to search in the jungle
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Old March 17th, 2014, 03:55 AM   #938
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"The missing aircraft is south of Malaysian jungle. The plane lost contact with the control tower and lost their coordinates. There were lots of clouds. He flew for 6 hours and forcibly landed in the jungle. There were less than 100 killed and other passengers were found in poor condition and if not rescued soon may die. You must communicate this to the international agencies RESCUE "

That information was in internet ...I am writing to that person for more information...PLEASE write to search in the jungle
Source or fake.
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Old March 17th, 2014, 04:12 AM   #939
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The airplane is in the jungle

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There's zero chance that it landed on a US military base.

This is no movie, there's no way that the US intelligence agencies or military would hijack a foreign commercial plane and land it on an remote airfield and keep all the passengers hostage for a week.
I agree I doubt it landed on a US military base BUT .....

I think the plane / people on board are still alive.

I am leaning toward the hijacked theory .... the terrorists or what every you like to call them have the plane / people on board and landed in a remote island / country.
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