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Old March 18th, 2014, 03:18 PM   #961
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The missing Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 is believed to have used a dangerous flying technique known as 'terrain masking' to drop to altitudes as low as 1,524m in order to avoid radars of at least three countries, according to investigators. This technique is generally used by pilots in the military during stealth flights.

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The missing Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 is believed to have used a dangerous flying technique known as 'terrain masking' to drop to altitudes as low as 1,524m in order to avoid radars of at least three countries, according to investigators. This technique is generally used by pilots in the military during stealth flights.

wouldn't it be easier to spot the plane through naked eye if it indeed flew that low?
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Old March 18th, 2014, 05:42 PM   #963
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They could use some unhabitated areas to fly by.
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Old March 18th, 2014, 06:09 PM   #964
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Why would Boeing make a plane where the critical communication systems could be shut off at whim? While they're at it the may as well have an off switch for the black box as well.

I share the same thought...
I am a complete laic in this area, but I do not understand why some critical communication systems in an aircraft can be switched off. They should be designed and built to be always turned on... Of course, unless the aircraft is idle or parked.
How can a transponder be turned off in flight???

I start to believe that this unfortunate flight has been really hijacked and pilots have commited suicide. If this plane had deviated its route to land somewhere else rather from its final destination, for sure at this point we would all have heard of it already.
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Old March 19th, 2014, 12:30 AM   #965
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Old March 19th, 2014, 02:36 AM   #966
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Thailand gives radar data 10 days after plane lost



Bangkok: Thailand's military said on Tuesday that its radar detected a plane that may have been Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 just minutes after the jetliner's communications went down, and that it didn't share the information with Malaysia earlier because it wasn't specifically asked for it.
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A twisting flight path described on Tuesday by Thai air force spokesman Air Vice Marshal Montol Suchookorn took the plane to the Strait of Malacca, which is where Malaysian radar tracked Flight 370 early March 8. But Montol said the Thai military doesn't know whether it detected the same plane.

Thailand's failure to quickly share possible information regarding the fate of the plane, and the 239 people aboard it, may not substantially change what Malaysian officials know, but it raises questions about the degree to which some countries are sharing their defence information, even in the name of an urgent and mind-bending aviation mystery.

With only its own radar to go on, it took Malaysia a week to confirm that Flight 370 had entered the strait, an important detail that led it to change its search strategy.

When asked why it took so long to release the information, Montol said, "Because we did not pay any attention to it. The Royal Thai Air Force only looks after any threats against our country, so anything that did not look like a threat to us, we simply look at it without taking actions."

He said the plane never entered Thai airspace and that Malaysia's initial request for information in the early days of the search was not specific.

"When they asked again and there was new information and assumptions from (Malaysian) Prime Minister Najib Razak, we took a look at our information again," Montol said. "It didn't take long for us to figure out, although it did take some experts to find out about it."

Flight 370 took off from Kuala Lumpur at 12.40am Malaysian time and its transponder, which allows air traffic controllers to identify and track the airplane, ceased communicating at 1.20am.

Montol said that at 1.28am, Thai military radar "was able to detect a signal, which was not a normal signal, of a plane flying in the direction opposite from the MH370 plane," back toward Kuala Lumpur. The plane later turned right, toward Butterworth, a Malaysian city along the Strait of Malacca. The radar signal was infrequent and did not include any data such as the flight number.

He said he didn't know exactly when Thai radar last detected the plane. Malaysian officials have said Flight 370 was last detected by their own military radar at 2.14am.

The search area for the plane initially focused on the South China Sea, where ships and planes spent a week searching. Pings that a satellite detected from the plane hours after its communications went down have led authorities to concentrate instead on two vast arcs — one into central Asia and the other into the Indian Ocean — that together cover an expanse as big as Australia.

Thai officials said radar equipment in southern Thailand detected the plane. Malaysian officials have said the plane might ultimately have passed through northern Thailand, but Thai Air Chief Marshal Prajin Juntong told reporters on Tuesday that the country's northern radar did not detect it.



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Old March 19th, 2014, 03:37 AM   #967
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An interesting theory here...

Did Malaysian Airlines 370 disappear using SIA68/SQ68 (another 777)?

http://mh370shadow.com/
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Old March 19th, 2014, 03:38 AM   #968
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Like i said before .....

The more i read.... the more i think the plane / passengers are still alive.
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Old March 19th, 2014, 04:41 AM   #969
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Thailand finds radar blips that could be MH370, India says Indian Ocean has black holes
The Malaysian Insider | March 19, 2014
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A woman with a T-shirt bearing a message 'Unite For MH370' during a vigil for the passengers of the missing Malaysia Airlines Boeing 777-200 plane in Kuala Lumpur yesterday. MH370 has now gone missing for 12 days. – The Malaysian Insider pic by Najjua Zulkefli, March 19, 2014.


The international search for flight MH370 entered its 12th day with Thailand now saying its military took 10 days to report radar blips that could have been the lost Malaysia Airlines jet "because we did not pay attention to it".

India also reported that the Boeing 777-200ER (9M-MRO) carrying 239 people could have escaped detection by flying into a part of the Indian Ocean that gets irregular radar checks.


Both reports do not bring any fresh clues to finding the lost flight dubbed as an “unprecedented aviation mystery" after it vanished into thin air early March 8 while en route to Beijing.

Thai military officials said yesterday their own radar showed an unidentified plane, possibly flight MH370, flying towards the Strait of Malacca minutes after the Malaysian jet's transponder signal was lost.

Air force spokesman Air Vice-Marshal Montol Suchookorn said the Thai military did not know whether the plane it detected was flight MH370, the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation reported in its website.

Thailand's failure to share possible information about the plane may not substantially change what Malaysian officials now know, but it raised questions about the degree to which some countries were sharing their defence data, the news portal said.

A coalition of 26 countries, including Thailand, is looking for flight MH370 with search crews scouring two giant arcs of territory amounting to the size of Australia – half of it in the remote seas of the southern Indian Ocean. The search teams had earlier searched the Gulf of Thailand with no success.

The search for the plane is among the largest in aviation history.

The United States navy said P-3 and P-8 surveillance aircraft were methodically sweeping over swathes of ocean, known as "mowing the grass", while using radar to detect any debris in the water and high-resolution cameras to snap images.

Australian and Indonesian planes and ships are searching waters to the south of Indonesia's Sumatra Island all the way down to the southern reaches of the Indian Ocean.

Several Malaysian navy ships have also started their search in that area as more assets are deployed to find the missing plane.

Flight MH370 took off from Kuala Lumpur at 12.41am on March 8 and its transponder, which allows air traffic controllers to identify and track the airplane, ceased communicating at 1.21am, Malaysian authorities said.

Montol said that at 1.28am, Thai military radar "was able to detect a signal, which was not a normal signal, of a plane flying in the direction opposite from the MH370 plane," back towards Kuala Lumpur.

The plane later turned right, toward Butterworth, along the Malacca strait. The radar signal was infrequent and did not include any data such as the flight number.

Asked why it took so long to release the information, Montol said: "Because we did not pay any attention to it. The Royal Thai Air Force only looks after any threats against our country."

The Canadian portal reported him as saying the plane never entered Thai airspace and that Malaysia's initial request for information in the early days of the search was not specific.

"When they asked again and there was new information and assumptions from Prime Minister (Datuk Seri) Najib Razak, we took a look at our information again," he said.

"It didn't take long for us to figure out, although it did take some experts to find out about it," the portal quoted him as saying.

Indian officials told CNN that if flight MH370 did fly through the southern part of the Indian Ocean, then there was a good chance that Indian radar systems did not even pick it up.

An Indian military official revealed that the radar systems covering the Andaman and Nicobar Islands were not as closely watched by the Indian military as others.

That left open the possibility that the systems did not notice the jet as it crossed through the area, the global television channel said.

"If flight 370 flew along that proposed southern corridor, then there’s a good chance that it did so through this ‘black hole’ in the Indian Ocean.

"The possibility that Indian radar systems missed flight 370 is frightening, because if they had picked up any sign of the jet, the plane’s flight path, timetable, and search area could be so much more focused," CNN said.

Besides a black hole in radar monitoring, the plane may have also dropped its altitude to a meagre 5,000 feet (1,500m) in order to avoid any further detection, Malaysia's New Straits Times reported on Monday.

But aviation experts said that low altitude would not be enough to escape radar detection as the systems work on line of sight and low-flying passenger jets would be noticed by people on the ground.

Cmdr William Marks, a spokesman for the US 7th fleet, said finding the plane was like trying to locate a few people somewhere between New York and California.

The new search area encompasses 2.24 million square nautical miles, from the Caspian Sea in the north to the edge of the Indian Ocean in the south. – March 19, 2014.

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Data Was Deleted From Flight Simulator of Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 Pilot

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Malaysian investigators have found that some data from a flight simulator taken from the home of the missing Malaysia Airlines Flight 370's pilot was deleted.

"Some data has been deleted from the simulator. Forensic efforts are on to retrieve the data," Hishammuddin Hussein, Malaysia's acting transport minister told reporters on Wednesday.

The flight simulator was taken from pilot Zaharie Ahmad Shah's home over the weekend as part of police investigation. All crew and ground staff who were involved with Flight 370 are currently being investigated, Mr. Hishammuddin said. He added that all crew and personnel are currently being treated as innocent.

The data log of the games on the simulator was cleared on Feb. 3 and experts are looking at what logs were deleted, Malaysian Inspector General of Police Khalid Abu Bakar said at the same news conference. He declined to comment if the experts thought the erasing of the data was unusual.

After Malaysian officials determined that deliberate action was to blame for the disappearance of Flight 370, police ramped up their investigations of Capt. Zaharie, 52 years old, and his 26-year-old co-pilot, Fariq Abdul Hamid. Investigators searched the homes of both men over the weekend.

Malaysian and foreign intelligence agencies haven't reported anything in their backgrounds that suggests links to terrorist or criminal organizations, a person familiar with the situation has said.

Capt. Zaharie's fellow pilots described him as a skilled aviator and his students called him a dedicated instructor.

Colleagues said he built a homemade Boeing 777 flight simulator, using computer parts and software he bought off the shelf. The simulator sat in his two-floor bungalow, located in an affluent suburb about an hour's drive from Kuala Lumpur.

Investigators haven't found anything "of significance" about any of the passengers so far, the police official said.

He also said that reports of an aircraft matching the Boeing 777-200 being sighted in Maldives were investigated and found not to be true.
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Old March 20th, 2014, 12:20 AM   #972
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Like i said before .....

The more i read.... the more i think the plane / passengers are still alive.
I think that is very unlikely. If anyone is alive there on a life raft in the middle of the ocean.
The problem is we don't no much about what happened to that flight.
It doesn't help that everyone involved are coming up with highly improbable theories.
What ever happened it must have something to do with a combination of at leased two of the following: technical defect, a string of technical defects, human error or a string of human errors.
That the investigators are talking a lot of nonsense is because what must have happened, never happened before and is just too difficult to imagine for them. They choice to look at things they can imagine.

So forget about all those theory's and the nonsense and hope that more installations or satellites received the planes signals and recorded/logged it.
Maybe than we could triangulate the planes (last) location.
If not, I don't think it will be found. The ocean is just to big.
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Old March 20th, 2014, 02:11 AM   #973
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The problem is we don't no much about what happened to that flight...
mmm...We know nothing.
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Taiwanese student claims to have spotted MH370 on satellite, experts not convinced

http://7daysindubai.com/taiwanese-st...rts-convinced/



http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-1107602

I think this is another airplane that was over an island when the satellital photo was captured.
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there's no way that the US intelligence agencies or military would hijack a foreign commercial plane and land it on an remote airfield and keep all the passengers hostage for a week.
Why? How are you able to show that?

Diego García was within 7 hours-fuel range when the plane was diverted, so it couldn't be ruled out.
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I think most of you have already seen this article, sounds pretty logical.

A Startlingly Simple Theory About the Missing Malaysia Airlines Jet

http://www.wired.com/autopia/2014/03...ectrical-fire/
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Watching news these days are filled with media frenzy and interesting stories about this missing #MH370. My thoughts are still with the families of the passengers and crews.

Understandably, Malaysia showed lack of preparedness and immaturity in handling such event as we never had this experience.

As for China, their media is going all out to swipe at Malaysia and all others that are involved in the search especially the US. It's like a "reliever" or "painkiller" from their point of view. However, China has so far provided some theories, some images of debris and an apparent seismic activity undersea, both of which are untrue.



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WASHINGTON: President Barack Obama (pic) said the search for the missing Malaysian airliner was a "top priority" for the United States and offered every possible resource - including the FBI.

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"We have put every resource that we have available at the disposal of the search process," he said. "There has been close cooperation with the Malaysian government."


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The Malay Mail Online | UPDATED: March 20, 2014 10:47 am
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KUALA LUMPUR, March 20 — Malaysia’s radar system has the ability to track an aircraft flying westwards from the peninsula right up to the Indian Ocean, former finance minister Datuk Seri Anwar Ibrahim said, fuelling a now popular view that the country had allegedly responded too late to the MH370 crisis or has been withholding information.

Anwar, now the leader of Malaysia’s federal opposition, told CNN’s Christiane Amanpour in an interview this morning that he had been the finance minister when Malaysia procured the Radar Marconi system.
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Old March 20th, 2014, 06:29 AM   #979
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Missing Malaysian Airlines flight MH370: PM Tony Abbott says satellite images could be wreckage of crashed plane

Prime minister says Royal Australian Airforce Orion aircraft diverted to investigate objects

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The Australian-led search for the missing Malaysian Airlines flight has had an apparent breakthrough, with satellite images showing two objects in waters off Perth.

Prime Minister Tony Abbott told Parliament on Thursday afternoon that an Australian P-3 Orion aircraft had been diverted to check out the objects and would be followed by other planes.

The first Orion was due to arrive on the scene about 2pm, he said.

Mr Abbott stressed it was not yet clear whether they were parts of the plane.
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But Mr Abbott described the breakthrough as "new and credible information."

"The Australian maritime safety authority has received information based on satellite imagery of objects possibly related to the search," Mr Abbott said.

"Following specialist analysis of this satellite imagery, two possible objects related to the search have been identified."

"I should tell the House - and we must keep this in mind - the task of locating these objects will be extremely difficult and it may turn out that they are not related to the search for flight MH370," Mr Abbott said.

"Nevertheless, I did want to update the House on this potentially important development.’’

Mr Abbott said he had informed his Malaysian counterpart, Prime Minister Najib Razak, and promised to keep him updated.

The Australian Maritime Safety Authority, which is co-ordinating the search, has called a news conference for 3.30pm.

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Possible debris spotted approximately 2,500 km (1,550mi) south-west of Perth, according to AMSA.
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