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Old July 17th, 2014, 11:37 PM   #1201
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The question is, why fly over Ukraine civilian aircraft. After the start of the military operation to murder all dissenters government junta was to close the airspace over the country. But it did not.
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Old July 17th, 2014, 11:37 PM   #1202
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Old July 17th, 2014, 11:43 PM   #1203
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The question is, why fly over Ukraine civilian aircraft. After the start of the military operation to murder all dissenters government junta was to close the airspace over the country. But it did not.
From a report I saw earlier it's believed the plane was on this path due to a thunderstorm in southern Ukraine which caused it to change it's route.
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Old July 17th, 2014, 11:56 PM   #1204
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154 Dutch
27 Australian
23 Malaysian
11 Indonesian
6 UK
4 Germany
4 Belgium
3 Philippines

All the others not yet identified...
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Old July 17th, 2014, 11:58 PM   #1205
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154 Dutch
27 Australian
23 Malaysian
11 Indonesian
6 UK
4 Germany
4 Belgium
3 Philippines

All the others not yet identified...
Also 1 Canadian.
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Old July 17th, 2014, 11:58 PM   #1206
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Ukrainian airspace over there is closed up to 8 thousand meters. Just we didn't anticipated that they would shoot down a civil plane
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Old July 18th, 2014, 12:10 AM   #1207
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Well this is remarkable to say the least

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The United States has concluded the Malaysian airline was shot down, a senior U.S. official told CNN's Barbara Starr. One radar system saw a surface-to-air missile system turn on and track an aircraft right before the plane went down Thursday, according to the official. A second system saw a heat signature at the time the airliner was hit, the official said. The United States is analyzing the trajectory of the missile to try to learn where the attack came from.
Source: http://edition.cnn.com/2014/07/17/wo...ash/index.html
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Old July 18th, 2014, 12:13 AM   #1208
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Disgraceful.
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Old July 18th, 2014, 12:25 AM   #1209
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Old July 18th, 2014, 12:26 AM   #1210
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154 Dutch
27 Australian
23 Malaysian
11 Indonesian
6 UK
4 Germany
4 Belgium
3 Philippines

All the others not yet identified...
May the 3 Filipino passengers rest in peace and bring comfort to their families and relatives. Looks like some people need to be hold accountable for yet another blow to Malaysia Airlines.

And by the way, it seems to me that those responsible for this attack were senseless and cruel because they thought that they can get away from this, when what they've done is harm, not only those innocent passengers and crew, but also add insult to injury on the aviation industry in Russia and the Ukraine.
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Old July 18th, 2014, 12:41 AM   #1211
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So this is it:


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Old July 18th, 2014, 01:05 AM   #1212
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I feel like that's part of the engine. For some reason I feel like the missile shell wouldn't be in that good of shape


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Old July 18th, 2014, 01:11 AM   #1213
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Only the tip of missile is warhead. The rest (and most) are just simply rocket engine, fuel tank and navigation devices. After the explosion this rest is throw up from the place of explosion.
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Old July 18th, 2014, 02:52 AM   #1214
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Route has changed, now Georgia is main path
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Old July 18th, 2014, 03:05 AM   #1215
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Route has changed, now Georgia is main path
That is seriously troubling then, given the magnitude of that incident.

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The question is, why fly over Ukraine civilian aircraft. After the start of the military operation to murder all dissenters government junta was to close the airspace over the country. But it did not.
Perhaps a main reason was that, at first, it was set on autopilot, in which it would not tell the pilot or the crew of the unforeseen danger found in the eastern part of Ukraine. And when everything went as smooth as it can get, a missile was shot, unintentionally hitting that aircraft in that altitude of 33,000 feet (10,000 meters). So, the fault here is not with Malaysia Airlines because the crew was not aware of the air strikes that have hit the border between Ukraine and Russia.

@Azrain I know, right? This is truly a situation we do NOT want to happen in the first place, yet it happened. It looks like Malaysia Airlines and the Malaysian government should help out in addressing this situation because it is very hard to see an airline's reputation be tarnished so quickly with the disappearance of MH370 and, now, the crash of MH17, both of which were operated with B777-200ERs, and it happened within a short span of time. I want to see how the Malaysian government will address this latest blow because this will affect each and every Malaysian.
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Old July 18th, 2014, 03:29 AM   #1216
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Old July 18th, 2014, 03:30 AM   #1217
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Old July 18th, 2014, 03:31 AM   #1218
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Old July 18th, 2014, 03:42 AM   #1219
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This is just discraceful. Saddened but not overly surprised. I can expect now for the west to clamp down on these pro-Russian thugs remote controlled by Putin from now on if they have any backbone. Or maybe the just like beating on the weak bc it's easier.
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Old July 18th, 2014, 04:03 AM   #1220
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this is all ICAO's fault (and the shooter's as well )

since according to ICAO , flight path above eastern Ukraine is safe
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