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Old March 24th, 2015, 02:45 PM   #1501
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France's transport minister confirms that there are no survivors from the plane crash.

French Interior Ministry spokesman Pierre-Henry Brandet says debris from the accident has been located and that the plane crashed at an altitude of 2,000 meters in the Alps.
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Old March 24th, 2015, 02:50 PM   #1502
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Old March 24th, 2015, 03:00 PM   #1503
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What a terrible accident for Lufthansa group.. R.I.P to all 142 passengers and 6 crew members.
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Old March 24th, 2015, 03:17 PM   #1504
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isn't it possibile that the reason could be the flight sensors that gave a huge problem to a lufthansa airbus a321 last week on a Bilbao- Monaco flight?
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Old March 24th, 2015, 03:37 PM   #1505
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Old March 24th, 2015, 05:09 PM   #1506
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isn't it possibile that the reason could be the flight sensors that gave a huge problem to a lufthansa airbus a321 last week on a Bilbao- Monaco flight?
Sure or about a million other reasons that so don't jump into conclusions.
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Old March 24th, 2015, 06:28 PM   #1507
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More than a dozen school children were on that flight! This year is looking bad for aviation.
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Old March 24th, 2015, 10:37 PM   #1508
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More than a dozen school children were on that flight! This year is looking bad for aviation.
I'm not sure if this year is looking bad for aviation but should be more attention at the maintanance and security.
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Old March 24th, 2015, 11:08 PM   #1509
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What I find really weird and suspicious is that just a min after reaching 38,000 feet, the aircraft started descending rapidly for 8 (some say 10) straight minutes and are you really telling me that there was no time for any distress call or mayday of some sort during this time??
It went a routine check just yesterday so I don't think something was wrong with the aircraft itself...
All we can hope now is for the right answers to come out as soon as possible...because this is scaring me a bit, I had Germanwings flight last month and my next flight is gonna be with Germanwings as well, over the Alps to Milan.
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Old March 25th, 2015, 01:00 AM   #1510
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What I find really weird and suspicious is that just a min after reaching 38,000 feet, the aircraft started descending rapidly for 8 (some say 10) straight minutes and are you really telling me that there was no time for any distress call or mayday of some sort during this time??
It went a routine check just yesterday so I don't think something was wrong with the aircraft itself...
All we can hope now is for the right answers to come out as soon as possible...because this is scaring me a bit, I had Germanwings flight last month and my next flight is gonna be with Germanwings as well, over the Alps to Milan.
They say the safest airline to fly in following an accident is the one that just experienced it. They will check everything.
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Old March 25th, 2015, 01:36 AM   #1511
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Its such a terrible news.
just cant imagain what the families are going through. And especially for those young kids..

I alway wonder why dont plane have parachute installed in them on top about 3 big ones on a320 size plane
incase of emergency like these where plane just decend pilot can pull the parachute out there is always at least 50% chance of surviving
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Old March 25th, 2015, 02:11 AM   #1512
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I don't normally post over here, but my sympathies to all involved in this tragedy.

I just saw a video of the crash site on the news. Wreckage scattered over a large area of hillside.

RIP.
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Old March 25th, 2015, 03:54 AM   #1513
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I alway wonder why dont plane have parachute installed in them on top about 3 big ones on a320 size plane
Easy, because it wouldn't work, at all - not even a little bit.
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Old March 25th, 2015, 05:41 AM   #1514
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We need to right now look at the possibility there was some sort of rapid loss of cabin pressure when the plane was flying at 38,000 feet (11,582 meters) altitude. At that altitude, the flight crew--if they're not wearing oxygen masks--would only maintain consciousness for 15-20 seconds. It's possible that they had just enough time to initiate an emergency descent, but lost consciousness early in the descent phase from 38,000 feet. As such, with the flight crew incapacitated, we essentially had a perfect controlled flight into terrain (CFIT) from the start of the descent.
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Old March 25th, 2015, 11:06 AM   #1515
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I alway wonder why dont plane have parachute installed in them on top about 3 big ones on a320 size plane
incase of emergency like these where plane just decend pilot can pull the parachute out there is always at least 50% chance of surviving
Only work in small planes, likes Cessna or Beechcraft. An A320 weight more than 70 tons, there're not a parachute than can stop the falling of that weight.
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Old March 25th, 2015, 01:28 PM   #1516
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I saw the screenshot from Flight radar - they just reached 38000 as they turned left over the sea-coast line and after that they started to descent. And they descent straight. No turns, no nothing. And probably pilots knew that they will reach Alps soon. I am going to conclusion, that their steering wasn't working. If I as an amateur - aviation hobbyist can get to the conclusion, that if there are mountains just in front of me soon, and I have a problems with engines (which happened probably), then I would turn back and try to "land" - well, hard-land on the sea. Which they just passed over. So if they didn't done that, my conclusion is the engines shut off and the mechanics / hydraulics / steering had broken.
OR they passed away because of decompression...
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Old March 25th, 2015, 03:11 PM   #1517
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It is very unlikely that a plane suffers from loss of steering, loss of engine power and loss of communication with air traffic control all at the same time by some technical failure, since these are all different systems which operate independant from each other.

To me, the rapid decompression theory sounds most likely. It would explain why the pilots decreased altitude without contacting air traffic control. If the oxygen supply failed, or they did not manage to get their masks on in time, the pilots would have no chance of landing the plane safely.

Still it is too early to draw any conclusions though. There may be hundred reasons why the plane crashed. Even suicide cannot be excluded at this point in time. I am glad one of the black boxes has already been found, hopefully that will shed some light on this accident.
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Old March 25th, 2015, 03:23 PM   #1518
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Old March 25th, 2015, 03:46 PM   #1519
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This aircraft was 24h being repaired the day before the crash at the Düsseldorf airport fixing a problem in the landing gear, according Spanish local press
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Old March 25th, 2015, 06:20 PM   #1520
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Very sad.

Some years ago I flew to Barcelona and we had a problem with the anti-ice stuff shortly before Spain, the plane returned and landed in Switzerland to replace the plane. Creepy.
Maybe similar problem. But was an a319 I think.
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