Bangalore Discussions

[engineer.akash]

Originally Posted by think-tank

I suppose they'll let us go if we offer them booze.

Are you by any chance from Mysore??or linked to it??? I can see a mysorean in you.....
Whenever I take pics from public offices/buildings I will ask the security guard to stand still and pose for me.....I did that recently in Mysore city bus stand subway.....

You can see in the pics, I risked myself....I am sure that I was caught all over the CCTV cameras

[think-tank]

Originally Posted by engineer.akash

Are you by any chance from Mysore??or linked to it??? I can see a mysorean in you.....
Whenever I take pics from public offices/buildings I will ask the security guard to stand still and pose for me.....I did that recently in Mysore city bus stand subway.....

You can see in the pics, I risked myself....I am sure that I was caught all over the CCTV cameras

Yeah I am linked to Mysore though I don't live there. My brother is more like you...he certainly does stuff like that. He has an obsession with trains so he once travelled from delhi to bangalore chatting with the train driver and the guard, sometimes they don't mind. However, I would advise you not to try that booze idea in real life

[sudheeshnairs]

Originally Posted by think-tank

I suppose they'll let us go if we offer them booze.

No, it is even difficult to get off by paying some bribe.

They will not let you drive the vehicle, will get you a mode of transport to reach home (auto/taxi). The car would be kept in the Police station. Next morning you have to pay the fine which is about Rs.3000 or so.

Originally Posted by gentem

Ladies drink only breazer.. Likely it ll be below breathe analyser threshold.

That is more of a generalization that ladies have only breezers. I have a friend who is in to mid twenties. During a binge session in one of our friend’s house she was having four pegs of vodka. We started at about 9 PM and finished the binge session by 3 PM, the next day I was having a hangover till afternoon (of course, I had lost count of my drinks and went to sleep only by early morning). She was perfectly ok and had a addressed an august function in the afternoon, next day. I have another friend who like spirits more than wine or beer. And apart from that she would have pan also. (I am a kid who is yet to enjoy pan or cigar). Anyway these all are part of social drinking and is mostly restricted to parties/occasions held privately at homes and not in outside venues.

[engineer.akash]

Magnanimous Babubali Idol begins journey to Gujarat from Karnataka

By Team Mangalorean Bangalore

Bangalore May 23: A 41-foot-high Bahubali Idol was taken from Bidadi Village, 40 km from here, to Gujarat for installation at on a hill at Songadh Village of Sihor Taluk in Bhavnagar District. The search for the right stone and sculptor began two years ago and after exhaustive search, it was decided that the stone and the scultptor had to be sourced out of Karnataka alone as similar stone and style of sculpture were unavailable elsewhere.

The Bahubali Idol was sculpted by National Award Winner and Gold Medalist Ashok Gudigar.





The idol was 41 feet in height and 14 foot wide. It was sculpted out of a single block of 400 tonne granite from a place called Koira near Devanahalli in Bangalore. The idol was being transported on a specially made heavy vehicle having 140 wheels.It may take approximately 45 days to reach the destination.

About 90 per cent of work was completed and the rest would be completed at Songadh before the actual installation.

Songadh, where the idol would be installed, was a place where the spiritual Digambar Jain Saint Pujya Kanji Swamiji had preached the principles of Jainism over a period of 45 years.

As a result, Songadh assumed greater spiritual importance.

Mangalorean

[Ausraja]

[Ausraja]

Survey conducted by one of the worlds premium organization tells about bangalores ratings:

Enjoy

Bangalore ranked (140) is India’s most highly ranked city followed closely by Mumbai (142).

http://www.mercer.com/referenceconte...ontent=1307990

With the metro and major bus service upgrades along with BWSSB plans after the next 5 years we will be within the top 100 liveable desitinations in the world.

[think-tank]

Global City Index: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_city
MC Center of Commerce Index: http://www.mastercard.com/us/company...eport_2008.pdf

[Ausraja]

think tank i beleive we need to look for rankings in 2010. There may be a very close race between bangalore and bombay.

[think-tank]

Originally Posted by Ausraja

think tank i beleive we need to look for rankings in 2010. There may be a very close race between bangalore and bombay.

Yeah, I hope they hurry up and finish Metro, Mono, High-Speed Rail and keep the city clean, make parking meters, ban poster sticking and spitting in public, this will bump up the city rating.

btw, Introducing bullet trains won't hurt either

[gentem]

To make city clean footpaths are must. Now ORR from silk board to mysore road got footpath so much cleaner and dust free. Narrow 3 ft is fine, but badly needed.

[Ausraja]

Originally Posted by think-tank

Yeah, I hope they hurry up and finish Metro, Mono, High-Speed Rail and keep the city clean, make parking meters, ban poster sticking and spitting in public, this will bump up the city rating.

btw, Introducing bullet trains won't hurt either

bullet train .... wow thats a lot.

[gentem]

Originally Posted by think-tank

Global City Index: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_city

In India:
Alpha World Cities: Mumbai
Beta World Cities: Delhi, Bangalore
Gamma World Cities: Chennai and Kolkata

MC Center of Commerce Index: http://www.mastercard.com/us/company...eport_2008.pdf

Three Indian cities are ranked this year, including
Mumbai #48, New Delhi #61 and Bangalore
#66.

By all means, bangalore is undisputed 3rd.

[Ausraja]

Originally Posted by gentem

In India:
Alpha World Cities: Mumbai
Beta World Cities: Delhi, Bangalore
Gamma World Cities: Chennai and Kolkata




Three Indian cities are ranked this year, including
Mumbai #48, New Delhi #61 and Bangalore
#66.

By all means, bangalore is undisputed 3rd.

where is the source from ??? 2010 report or teh attached 2008 report ???

[gentem]

gap from chennai/kolkata can only widen from 2008..

[think-tank]

Originally Posted by gentem

To make city clean footpaths are must. Now ORR from silk board to mysore road got footpath so much cleaner and dust free. Narrow 3 ft is fine, but badly needed.

It's not only that, in Singapore- chewing gums are banned, so is spitting and littering. They should introduce the same thing in Bangalore.

[Ausraja]

What about Honking (worst thing thats happening) , cutting green cover without replanting , improved housing , education , hospitals , garbage disposals etc.

most of this can be acheived in a short span with help of private participation.

There has to be urban planning which can take the 6 large indian cities to be top global cities(atleast within 50).

[engineer.akash]

we cannot do away with honking in mega cities......

[gentem]

Originally Posted by think-tank

It's not only that, in Singapore- chewing gums are banned, so is spitting and littering. They should introduce the same thing in Bangalore.

Honking and spitting/littering are birthrights.. higher priority to freedom over clean cities

[think-tank]

Flush with funds, city goes back to the drawing board

INFRASTRUCTURE THOUGH THE GOING IS SLOW, IT’S STEADY TIMES NEWS NETWORK

More money spent and more works in endless progress. That, in a nutshell, the status of civic and infrastructure works in Bangalore over the past two years.
A whopping Rs 18,872 crore has been set aside in the government’s latest budget for Namma Bengaluru to be spent over the next three years. According to government sources, Rs 6,200 crore of the total amount will be spent this fiscal.
Despite the big money on paper, the long wait for completion of a few projects is rather worrying for experts and the common man. This, when there are also talks of additional projects like the High Speed Rail Link (HSRL) and the Monorail.
It’s not the money now, but a proper audit of works in progress alongside better co-ordination among agencies and transparency of the accounts that’s most needed for Bangalore development.

• On the civic front, the biggest success has been the BBMP polls leading to the formation of new council after a long wait of over three years. But, it’s still incomplete without the standing committees. Even the two main promises in the party manifesto during the assembly elections in 2008 — direct election of mayor with a three-year term is yet to fructify. There’s also been very little or no progress on recommendations of the Kasturirangan Committee Report on 74th amendment of the Constitution.

• The government task force Agenda for Bengaluru Infrastructure Development (ABIDe) has also not been very successful in implementing many of its dream projects. Many proposals remain on paper and as proposals on its website.
KEY RESULT AREAS
Promise in the manifesto

• Direct election of the mayor with three-year term — Not achieved

• Akrama-Sakrama policy — Not achieved

• Thrust on Infrastructure, multilevel parking, Metro Rail, pedestrian infrastructure, seamless traffic — In progress

• Property tax under a revised Self Assessment Scheme — Achieved
Promises made by minister

• Akrama Sakrama

• Revised property tax

• BBMP elections

• Development of markets
Extent of over/under achievement

• Have those projects taken off ? What stages are they in? Last two years: Completed

• Property tax collection under revised SAS scheme

• Total 1038.35 km of roads across city asphalted and 237.58 km of road were made concrete

• 11 underpasses by BBMP at the cost of Rs 23 crore

• Development work in 15 packages for storm water drain taken up at the cost of Rs 490 crore
LONG WAIT

• Converting 12 high density corridors as signal free corridors (estimate: Rs 2,500 crore)

• 600 km of road to be widened across the five new BBMP zones (estimate: Rs 2,350 crore

• Construction of six flyovers (estimate: Rs 2,350 crore)

• Railway under/over bridges at 40 points (estimate: Rs 355 crore)

• Construction of five new grade separators (estimate: Rs 85 crore)
Expert comment on overall performance
Disappointing, when compared to the high expectations. Speed of project execution has been slow — whether it is roads, grade separators or Metro Rail. The ener gy deficit and regular load shedding are worrisome. Water shortages plague many areas. One worries about flooding in the monsoon since drain work is incomplete and there are so many ongoing projects. HSRL is a pointless project. Pedestrians are neglected in infrastructure planning. Solid landfills yet to be implemented fully.
The positives? The Big 10 bus initiative is working well. Electronic City expressway is completed and there’s an intent to fix Bangalore infrastructure.
— V Ravichandar | civic expert MINISTERSPEAK There’s been fantastic work on civic and infrastructure in Bangalore. Our peak areas of development in the past two years has been the roads, flyovers, lake deve l o p m e n t and Phase-1 of Metro Rail. Apart from Rs 3,000 crore in our firstyear budget, we have also now proposed to spend another Rs 22,000 crore in the next three years only on the city and its infrastructure. A concrete decision on Akrama-Sakrama will also be taken in the next assembly session.
—R Ashoka | Bangalore in-charge minister
SUMMARY OF PERFORMANCE
It’s a long list of works in progress. Very few of them have been completed. Phase-1 of the 42-km Metro Rail has progressed from a 1% growth to almost 20% growth in two years. The first coaches are expected in December 2010. Grand plans for Phase 2 apart, talks of the HSRL and Monorail as feeder services to it are also on. This apart, a total 1,187 civic works worth Rs 311.48 crore is currently in progress across all 16 assembly constituencies that come under BBMP limits. This also includes projects taken up under the Jawaharlal Nehru National Urban Renewal Mission (JN-NURM). WATER & POWER CITIZENS ARE THIRSTY AND POWERLESS TIMES NEWS NETWORK
Promises made in the manifesto and by the minister
KEY RESULT AREAS

• The state government had increased the budget provision for irrigation projects to Rs 4,714 crore. It had promised special efforts for a comprehensive survey and rejuvenation of all water bodies and tanks.

• To improve drinking water supply to Bangalore, Rs 600 crore was allotted and Rs 100 crore for recycling underground drainage water leading to tanks.

• Around Rs 500 crore was allocated for Upper Bandra Project, 63,000 hectares land was promised for irrigation facilities and Rs 2193 for implementation of Chimmalagi Lift Irrigation project in Bijapur.

SUMMARY OF PERFORMANCE
Many water projects were announced in the 2008-09 and 2009-10 budgets. This includes allocation for Cauvery IV Stage II Phase. With the initial delay in the project, work has slowly picked up pace. The Bangalore Water Supply and Sewerage Board (BWSSB) expects to complete the project by 2012 and supply water to the newly added BBMP areas.
The state government had increased the budget provision for irrigation projects to Rs 4714 crore. They had promised for special efforts for comprehensive survey and rejuvenation of all water bodies and tanks. Though there has been a delay in starting the Cauvery IV Stage II Phase project, the BWSSB has promised to complete it by December 2011.
Promises have been made to improve the underground drainage system and provide better drinking water supply, but the problems still seem to persist. Experts feel that announcements are aplenty but the delay in implementation of projects is affecting the supply.
EXPERTSPEAK
Though projects are announced, they are delayed and there is no comprehensive planning to augment water supply. There is no effort towards institutional and capacity building. They are simply not equipped to deal with water crises. This institution should have the right skill to tackle them. It should transform itself into an urban water management institution and get on board a hydrogeologist, ecologists, hydrologists and start to integrate water sources into a water plan for Bangalore. The government has zero plan to cope with climate change.
— S Vishwanath | Rainwater Harvesting Club
MINISTERSPEAK
BWSSB is working very hard and doing its best to enhance the performance. We have initiated many projects to tackle the water crisis. Besides, the Cauvery IV Stage II Phase, there are many plans to enrich ground water through rain water harvesting. Earlier, there were only two lakh connections, which has now been increased to six lakh. The supply has been the same but the demand is increasing on a daily basis.
—Katta Subramanya Naidu | BWSSB minister
POWER
The budget allocation for power for 2009-10 was enhanced to Rs 6107 crore. The government had promised infrastructure for establishment of new power plant with generation capacity of 1015 MW at Udupi. New power plants were promised at Hidkal and Gulbarga. They increased the share capital by Rs 500 crore in Karnataka Power Corporation Limited. They promised to extend Nirantara Jyothi scheme in a phased manner. Also, promises were made to provide electricity to all hutments and thandas of the state and to spend Rs 100 crore under the Ganga Kalyan scheme for electrification of 10,000 irrigation pumpsets for families below poverty line.
Summary of performance
After a lull in the energy sector since the J H Patil regime, the BJP government started new projects to generate power. The long gap had led to the increase in demand.
Karnataka government signed memoranda of understanding (MoUs) in 2009, with National Thermal Power Corporation (NTPC) and Bharat Heavy Electricals Limited (BHEL) to set up new thermal and wind energy projects in the state with a cumulative capacity of 6,900 MW in the next four years. NTPC will invest Rs 22,500 crore to set up a 4,000 MW thermal power station at Kudigi in Bijapur district and 500 MW wind power plant at six different locations in north Karnataka. Power Corporation of Karnataka Limited (PCKL) signed the MoU with NTPC for the project. The projects will use both domestic and imported coal to run the plants. Another 2,400 MW thermal power station is being set up through a joint venture between Karnataka Power Corporation Limited (KPCL), Bharat Heavy Electricals Limited (BHEL) and a private player. IDFC has shown interest to be the third partner in the joint venture.
However, the eighth unit of Raichur Thermal Power Station (RTPS) and second unit of Bellary Thermal Power Station are likely to be commissioned this year. However, it would take another three years to get the other projects commissioned.
EXPERTSPEAK
This government has inherited an extremely poor power situation. For many years, there was no new investment and generation capacity. There was no attempt to build public opinion when environmentalists were attacking new projects. When BJP government came in, it signed an agreement with the Chhattisgarh government for new generation. They have also initiated new projects. But none of this will deliver power at least by 2013. The energy department of Karnataka has a major short-term and medium-term challenges with the growing demand.
— S L Rao | Chairman, Institute of Social and Economic Change
APPRAISE YOUR GOVT
The Yeddyurappa-led BJP government completes two years in power on May 30. It’s time then to see which ministers are discharging their responsibilities, who must gear up, who are plain inactive and who else should be included in the team.
HERE’S YOUR CHANCE TO APPRAISE THE MINISTRY

• Who has been performing well?

• Which minister must pull up his socks?

• Who should be out of the ministry?

• Who else should be included and why?

• Rate these ministers on a scale of 1 to 10, ten being the highest

Source

[kp.muthu99]

When I wrote that Namma Bengaluru is best city , few people here started commenting about my views ..
i am glad Nammma Bangaluru is best , so many parks so many lakes , so clean , nice weather , civilized and educated people ,
cheers up

Expats give thumbs up to city, call it the best in India

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/c...ow/5979169.cms

BANGALORE: What does it mean to live in Bangalore if you are an expat ? The quality of living here is just great, expatriates say.

No wonder a survey says Bangalore is the best Indian city when it comes to quality of living for expatriates . While it is ahead of New Delhi, Mumbai and Kolkata in quality of living, it tops Chennai , Delhi, Mumbai and Kolkata in eco-ambience .