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Old January 31st, 2010, 03:59 PM   #61
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ok! if you count T/O, than NYC has exactly 53 buildings and HK 54 buildings over 200m. i'll see if i can give you the exact number of shanghai.
Thanks so much. I've simplified the list to a 200 metre club. I've used tallest building in each city to break a tie, so I've added that data as well. To make it more interesting, I've also added 2 sub groups, 'On the Bubble' and 'The Rest'!

200 metre club

01. Hong Kong (54) - 415 m
02. New York (53) -381 m
03. Dubai (42) - 828 m
04. Shanghai (31) - 492 m
05. Chicago (23) - 442 m

06. Shenzhen (18) - 384 m
07. Tokyo (18) - 248 m
08. Houston (14) - 305 m
09. Bangkok (12) - 304 m
10. Chongqing (12) - 283 m

11. Seoul (12) - 265 m
12. Jakarta (12) - 262 m
13. Singapore (11) - 280 m
14. Kuala Lumpur (10) - 452 m
15. Atlanta (10) - 312 m

16. Los Angeles (10) - 310 m

On the Bubble

17. Melbourne (8) - 297 m
18. Sydney (8) - 244 m
19. Guangzhou (7) - 391 m
20. Moscow (7) - 302 m

21. Toronto (7) - 298 m
22. Dallas (7) - 281 m
23. Wuhan (6) - 331 m
24. Nanjing (6) - 310 m
25. Incheon (5) - 305 m

26. Philadelphia (5) - 297 m
27. Dalian (5) - 243 m
28. Osaka (5) - 256 m
29. Doha (5) - 254 m

The Rest

Seattle (4) - 285 m
Frankfurt (4) - 259 m
Madrid (4) - 250 m
Minneapolis (4) - 241 m
Dongtan (4) awaiting data

Gold Coast (3) - 323 m
Riyadh (3) - 311 m
Cleveland (3) - 289 m
Charlotte (3) - 265 m
San Francisco (3) - 260 m
Manama (3) - 260 m
Jeddah (3) - 250 m
Nagoya (3) - 247 m
Miami (3) - 242 m
Tianjin (3) - 238 m
London (3) - 235 m
Mexico City (3) - 225 m
Denver (3) - 218 m

Taipei (2) - 508 m
Kaohsiung (2) - 348 m
Shenyang (2) - 305 m
Pittsburgh (2) - 256 m
Perth (2) - 249 m
Qingdao (2) - 249 m
Mumbai (2) - 249 m
Boston (2) - 241 m
Warsaw (2) - 231 m
Montréal (2) - 230 m
Panama City (2) - 210 m
Busan (2) - 210 m
Brisbane (2) - 207 m
Ulsan (2) awaiting data

Kuwait City (1) - 300 m
Yokohama (1) - 296 m
Istanbul (1) - 261 m
Chengdu (1) - 260 m
Indianapolis (1) - 253 m
Tel Aviv (1) - 244 m
Jersey City (1) - 238 m
Fukuoka (1) - 234 m
Urumqi (1) - 230 m
Xi'an (1) - 228 m
Mobile (1) - 227 m
Caracas (1) - 225 m
Las Vegas (1) - 224 m
Johannesburg (1) - 223 m
Detroit (1) - 222 m
Calgary (1) - 215 m
Hanamatsu (1) - 213 m
New Orleans (1) - 212 m
Paris (1) - 210 m
Casablanca (1) - 210 m
Austin (1) - 208 m
Kawasaki (1) - 204 m
Vienna (1) - 202 m
Vancouver (1) - 201 m
Kish (1) - 200 m
Daegu (1) awaiting data
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Old January 31st, 2010, 05:04 PM   #62
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Countries with more than 1 city with 200 metre buildings

01. United States (23) - 156 buildings
02. China (14) - 149 buildings
03. Japan (7) - 30 buildings
04. Australia (5) - 23 buildings
05. Canada (4) - 11 buildings

06. South Korea (3) - 18 buildings
07. Saudi Arabia (2) - 6 buildings
08. Taiwan (2) - 4 buildings
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Old January 31st, 2010, 11:57 PM   #63
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I love you isaidso

This list is awesome.
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Old February 1st, 2010, 01:26 AM   #64
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This list is awesome.
Awww, thanks. I like statistical analysis, and I'm happy you find it interesting.
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Old February 1st, 2010, 02:22 AM   #65
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mexico city top 10 with pictures

1 torre mayor 225 mts



2 torre pemex 211 mts



3 world trade center mexico 207 mts



4 torre altus 197 mts



5 torre latinoamericana 187 mts



6 torre arcos bosques 161.5 mts


7 torre arcos bosques 2 161.2 mts



8 st regis hotel and residences 150.1 mts



9 paragon santa fe 149.1 mts



10 condominio santa fe 443 140 mts



and in 2011 the tallest will be
torre reforma 244 mts

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Old February 1st, 2010, 03:28 AM   #66
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Countries with more than 1 city with 200 metre buildings

01. United States (23) - 156 buildings
02. China (14) - 149 buildings
03. Japan (7) - 30 buildings
04. Australia (5) - 23 buildings
05. Canada (4) - 11 buildings

06. South Korea (3) - 18 buildings
07. Saudi Arabia (2) - 6 buildings
08. Taiwan (2) - 4 buildings
Thank you for providing a good data like this
I love your data. But there are something missing about south korea's data.
Maybe, it's that beacuse there is no updated data so far.

As far as I know, South Korea have 6 cities with 200m buildings and at least 26 buldings right now.

1.Seoul: 12 completed buildings over 200m
2.Incheon : 5 buildings over 200m (one is T/O and the others are completed 2 years ago.)
This is a picture of 5 buildings over 200m in Incheon(The right one is 305mT/O, the other are 235m)



3. Busan : 2 completed buildings over 200m
4. Ulsan : 2 completed bulindings over 200m

This is a picture of two building over 200m in Ulsan.



5. Daegu : 1 building(T/O)
This is a old picture of Daegu.


6. Dongtan : 4 complted buildings over 200m
This is a little bit old picture of 4 buildings over 200m in Dongtan.



Total ; 26 buildings

Therefore, South Korea have 6 cities with 200m buildings and 26 buildings, without lots of U/C 200m buldings all over korea.

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If you get the data from on the internet like emporis, it could be wrong.
Since data of some countries haven't updated for a long time.

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If you get the data from on the internet like emporis, it could be wrong.
Since data of some countries haven't updated for a long time.
Thanks so much for the help. I did find information for a number of cities very difficult to come by. I only use emporis as a last resort so I'll have data to input with the hopes of light being shed on it by people in the know. The tactic seems to be working due to help from people like you. I hate emporis too.

I've added the extra building for Incheon to the master list, but need the tallest building height for Ulsan, Daegu, and Dongtan, to put them in the right position. (I use tallest building in each city to break a tie.)

I've changed the data for South Korea, but need the data for Ulsan, Daegu, and Dongtan so I know exactly where to put them. Thanks again.

Stefano: Thank you, I've added Mexico City!
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Countries with more than 1 city with 200 metre buildings

01. United States (23) - 156 buildings
02. China (14) - 149 buildings
03. Japan (7) - 30 buildings
04. South Korea (6) - 26 buildings
05. Australia (5) - 23 buildings

06. Canada (4) - 11 buildings
07. Saudi Arabia (2) - 6 buildings
08. Taiwan (2) - 4 buildings
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Australia pulls its weight well having 1x 200m+ building per million people
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Australia pulls its weight well having 1x 200m+ building per million people
Yes, I noticed that too. Canada's got a lot of work to do to catch up. Canada has 7 200 metre towers currently under construction with another 4 on the way, but that still only gets the Canadian total up to 22, one less than Australia.

To get to that 1 200 m building per million residents, we'd have to build another 12 towers on top of that. The biggest culprit up till now has been a powerful anti height lobby in Toronto, and draconian height restrictions in Montréal, Vancouver, and Ottawa: 4 of our 6 largest cities. Things are getting slightly better in Toronto, while many believe that Vancouver is running out of options. Analysts expect vastly taller buildings in Vancouver from now on.

Montréal and Ottawa will continue to build stumps, so we probably won't get to 34 towers that height for another 5-7 years. How many 200 metre towers are under construction in Australia?
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Yeah. Well Australia's currently booming economy is doing a good job of reeling in the tall buildings. Not on a Dubai standard, but for a country built on the foundations of a convict settlement, it isn't doing too badly. Height restrictions suck, even Sydney has hectic height restrictions, though Brisbane has ditched its HR.

Might I ask, which buildings over 200m for Australia have you got? I could get you a list U/C, if you ever wanted to compile a list for U/C buildings

Thanks again for the wonderful list.
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I used wikipedia for most of Australia's data. On second reflection, the numbers might be skewed up more than they should as Australia measures height including antennas. Using the same definition used in Canada, Australia has about 18 towers (1 of the new Gold Coast towers isn't on wikipedia yet). For example, FCP in Toronto is always listed at 298 m. Using Australian definitions, FCP would be 355 m.

Not sure what to do. We should be comparing apples to apples, so this opens up a can of worms. I didn't check whether other countries use roof height, spires, or antennas. I believe most countries don't count antennas, but I'll wait a bit before trying to standardize all the data. I don't have time for it today.

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I thought spires were counted as they are "architectural features", antenna on the other hand aren't included in heights.
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I thought spires were counted as they are "architectural features", antenna on the other hand aren't included in heights.
It differs from country to country. There in lies the problem. I count spires, but not antennas. Then there are special cases where it's arbitrary as to whether to classify something as a spire or antenna. Then there are buildings like Deutsche Bank in Sydney. It's really a 160 m building with a scaffolding like architectural feature on top that raises it to 239 m. Which height to use?

Roof height is often used to avoid all discrepancies.
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Well if it's an antenna it receives TV signals right?

As for Deutsche Bank, I'm pretty sure that it's counted at 239m with its spire being an architectural feature. I could be wrong.

I think that all spires should be counted, though Melbourne folk like to dispute that as it would make their Eureka Tower taller than Q1
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That's a great list isaidso! Thanks for posting.
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Well if it's an antenna it receives TV signals right?

As for Deutsche Bank, I'm pretty sure that it's counted at 239m with its spire being an architectural feature. I could be wrong.

I think that all spires should be counted, though Melbourne folk like to dispute that as it would make their Eureka Tower taller than Q1
I count spires too, but those Melbourne people have a valid argument. Q1 really is a 275 metre building. Any tower could put a 48 metre spire on their roof. Likewise Trump Toronto is really a 257 metre tower will a 25 metre spire tacked on top of it. It will count as Toronto's 2nd tallest, but in reality, Scotia Plaza is the taller building.
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I used wikipedia for most of Australia's data. On second reflection, the numbers might be skewed up more than they should as Australia measures height including antennas. Using the same definition used in Canada, Australia has about 18 towers (1 of the new Gold Coast towers isn't on wikipedia yet). For example, FCP in Toronto is always listed at 298 m. Using Australian definitions, FCP would be 355 m.

Not sure what to do. We should be comparing apples to apples, so this opens up a can of worms. I didn't check whether other countries use roof height, spires, or antennas. I believe most countries don't count antennas, but I'll wait a bit before trying to standardize all the data. I don't have time for it today.

Incidentally, where are you getting these figures from (apart from Emporis, Wikipedia and SSC forumers)?
I realise that Emporis is very incomplete outside of the Western world, but their figures for Chicago and Miami are higher than yours.
Emporis lists Chicago with 25 completed buildings over 200m (with a further 2 u/c over 200m which have topped out), while Miami is listed with 5.

Also, are you planning to use architectural height, height to roof, or height to pinnacle when standardising the list?

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