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Old November 8th, 2007, 01:00 AM   #201
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Sadly we still have no idea what the A350 will look like.
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Old November 8th, 2007, 01:04 AM   #202
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Old November 8th, 2007, 01:10 AM   #203
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Sadly we still have no idea what the A350 will look like.
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Old November 8th, 2007, 01:39 AM   #204
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The Airbus A350 is basically a generic copy of the Boeing 787, both have similar shape noises and bent wings. Its not a surprise that announced this plane shortly after Boeing unveiled its Boeing787 plane. Everyone from numerous forums across the internet addressed the similarity between the two planes.
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Old November 8th, 2007, 01:43 AM   #205
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Eh, Looks just like their A330's.....You can only get so many looks out of a twin engine plane anyway.....Nothing is distinctive.
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Old November 8th, 2007, 01:59 AM   #206
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*sigh*

Of course, this is NOT the actual final design.

This is:


And comparing the 787 and the 350 is a little far-fetched. At 270-350 seats in a three-class layout, the 350 is quite a bit larger than the 787 (223-263) and thus will replace the A330/A340 and 777, while the 787 is basically a 767 replacement.
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Old November 8th, 2007, 06:13 AM   #207
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I think this is hilarious and appropriate for the subject:


It's about the way that Airbus Copyed the 787 to make the A350 out of parts of previous airplanes.

I would still be just as happy riding in a A350 than a 787.
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Old November 8th, 2007, 06:19 AM   #208
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You should check out Airbus 350 previous design and then compare it to the newer design after the Boeing 787 was unveiled. See the difference and noticed that A350 was heavily inspired by Boeing's 787 design.
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Old November 8th, 2007, 10:05 AM   #209
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Eh, Looks just like their A330's.....You can only get so many looks out of a twin engine plane anyway.....Nothing is distinctive.
out of the 5-6 twin engine models that Boeing has none of them look alike

717
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Old November 8th, 2007, 10:35 AM   #210
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Qatar airways ordered 80 a350 and 30 787 making it 110 orders of these kinds lol
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Old November 8th, 2007, 05:48 PM   #211
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The gap is too big.

As of November 8, 2007
Boeing 787 = more than 800 orders
Airbus A350 XWB = not even 300 orders

The gap is still way too big (not even halfway of 800).

Nevertheless, we shall see what the Dubai Airshow holds as the wealthy Middle East airline companies make new orders.

But I predict that even if Airbus gets a big boost in its A350 XWB sales from the airshow, it wouldn't change the fact that production will still be years later (earliest only by year 2013).
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Old November 8th, 2007, 05:52 PM   #212
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the design has not yet been frozen
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Old November 8th, 2007, 06:51 PM   #213
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Like others have pointed out, that's not it. Everything we see on that A350 is still a concept design.
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Old November 9th, 2007, 12:57 AM   #214
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out of the 5-6 twin engine models that Boeing has none of them look alike

717
737
757
767
777
787
From a distance.......The 767 looks similar to the 777......The 737-300's on up look like the A319's........

Back in the day you could easily distinguish between a 727/737/757/767....All I'm saying is 99% of the planes you see are twin engine planes. It would be nice if either Airbus/Boeing would develop a baddass looking trident for medium/short haul service....even better, bring back the 727 (with winglets...lol)....I guess what I'm trying to say is plane watching tends to be boring these days, I used to love the thundering sound of the B727's and the 732's with the old JT8's.......It would shake my house...
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Old November 9th, 2007, 01:38 AM   #215
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Won't the A350-XWB crush the 787 "technologically" since it will be out later and since it had time to copy the 787's technological breakthroughs / go beyond?
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I don't.
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Old November 9th, 2007, 06:40 AM   #217
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Won't the A350-XWB crush the 787 "technologically" since it will be out later and since it had time to copy the 787's technological breakthroughs / go beyond?
Umm, no. They will both be majority composite aircraft, using similar engine technology & fly-by-wire. They will be direct competitors, and very similar. The A350 a bit larger, it seems, between the 787 and 777, but not really that different in the end. Boeing has the advantage of being first. Airbus will benefit from all of the new technology developed for this generation of airframe, and thus enjoy reduced costs and a shorter learning curve for composite construction.

In the end, Boeing will win twin engine-long range class of airframe, likewise, Airbus will win the large airframe market. The 747-i isn't selling well except as a freighter. The British Airways choice was really a HUGE blow to Boeing's attempt to compete with the A380.

So, each manufacturer has a "winner" and each will thrive. Hurray competition!
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Old November 9th, 2007, 06:45 AM   #218
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my suggestion only...yeah its gonna flip some lids..but why not jus get a
C-130 body with a B-52 wings and make some areodymanic comprosimes. Im no engineer but seems like a good start to me. Ha im a nut
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Old November 9th, 2007, 05:48 PM   #219
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I think the A350XWB and B787 shouldn't be compared anymore.

Airbus knows it is losing the 250 seat market to the 787 so it has upgraded the specs for the A350. Look at them, the A350-800's closest match is the 787-9.

Hence, that's why a few airlines like Aeroflot, Singapore Airlines, Qatar are planing to operate the 787 and A350 side-by-side, just like the A330/B777 combo.

So now it is heading into 777 territory, airlines are now pushing for a 787-10/11 from Boeing and unless Boeing comes out with something soon, you'll start to see A350 orders pickup. Already, we are seeing a few airlines like Qantas asking for a -10/11, and threatening an A350 order.
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Old November 10th, 2007, 01:00 AM   #220
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Isn't Boeing supposed to have its upcoming " Y3" plane rivalling with the new A-350/A-380 (i.e. 350+ passengers)?
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