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Old June 19th, 2013, 11:43 PM   #881
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Right now, who is selling more planes in paris??? And how many for the 350 and 787?! Thanks!
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Old June 20th, 2013, 12:11 AM   #882
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The MSN 1 made 4 test flights earlier today.
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Old June 20th, 2013, 05:42 AM   #883
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The MSN 1 made 4 test flights earlier today.
Sorry but I had understood that was second flight and two approaches-take offs with different flaps configuration , so we had three flights today right?
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Old June 20th, 2013, 05:57 AM   #884
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Huge plane...
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Old June 20th, 2013, 10:26 AM   #885
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Sorry but I had understood that was second flight and two approaches-take offs with different flaps configuration , so we had three flights today right?
According to a.net there where 4 landings
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Old June 20th, 2013, 12:46 PM   #886
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United has ordered 10 A350-1000, and converted its previous order to A350-1000s too.
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Old June 20th, 2013, 12:47 PM   #887
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And the order spree continues...

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Airbus, United Airlines reach agreement for 35 A350-1000 aircraft

Airline orders 10 more A350s, converts order for 25 A350-900s to -1000 model
20 June 2013 Press Release

United Airlines and Airbus have announced that the airline will add 35 Airbus A350-1000 aircraft to its future fleet. The agreement between the companies represents a conversion of the U.S. carrier’s previous order for 25 A350-900s to the -1000 model, as well as the addition of 10 more orders for A350-1000 aircraft. The announcement was made today during the Paris Air Show.



The A350-1000 is the largest version of the A350 XWB (Xtra Wide-Body) family and typically seats 350 passengers in a three-class layout. The aircraft is capable of flying 8,400 nautical miles non-stop and will be operated by United on higher density routes, including non-stop flights between the United States and the Asia/Pacific region. The aircraft will be powered by two Rolls-Royce Trent XWB engines delivering 97,000lbs of thrust – the most powerful engines ever developed for an Airbus aircraft.

“We look forward to taking delivery of the A350-1000,” said Jeff Smisek, United’s Chairman, President and CEO. “This is a modern, fuel-efficient and advanced-technology aircraft that our customers and co-workers will enjoy flying. It will be a great addition to our fleet and will allow us to meet demand on larger, long-haul markets in our world-leading network.”

“The latest announcement from United Airlines is yet another endorsement for the
A350-1000,” said Fabrice Bregier, Airbus President and Chief Executive Officer. “Less than a week after the success of the A350 XWB’s first flight, we see that demand for the new aircraft continues to grow, especially for the larger -1000 model. Airbus is proud to have United Airlines on board the exciting A350 program in such a significant way.”

The A350 XWB is an all-new mid-size long range product line featuring three versions and seating between 270 and 350 passengers in typical three-class layouts. The aircraft will bring new levels of efficiency to the mid-size market, using 25 per cent less fuel than existing aircraft in this size category and providing an equivalent reduction in CO2 emissions.

The first A350 XWB began an extensive flight test program last Friday, June 14th. Entry into commercial service of the first customer aircraft is scheduled for the second half of 2014.

To date, Airbus has recorded 678 firm orders for the A350 XWB from 34 customers worldwide.
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Old June 20th, 2013, 01:25 PM   #888
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Now the rumored JAL 3510 would be great, who know just might happen.

Plus tomorrow might be the fly by.
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Old June 20th, 2013, 04:53 PM   #889
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Interesting numbers:

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Airbus books almost US$70 billion at Paris Air Show 2013

-466 Airbus aircraft orders & commitments across all product families;

-A320neo Family retains 60 percent market share;

-A350 XWB, A330 and A380 all continue to outsell the competition.

20 June 2013

At the 2013 Paris Air Show, Airbus won US$68.7 billion worth of business for a total of 466 aircraft, which shows the resilience of the commercial aviation industry. The deals comprise Memoranda of Understanding (MoU) for 225 aircraft worth US$29.4 billion and firm purchase orders for 241 aircraft worth US$39.3 billion.



The A320 Family, spearheaded by the A320neo, continues its trailblazing success in the single-aisle market with 371 orders and commitments from six customers announced at the show, worth approximately $37.8 billion. Of these, 88 were for the A320ceo – showing that today’s in-production aircraft is still the most sought-after industry workhorse. A stand-out commitment during the show for the A320 Family was the announcement from easyJet for 100 A320neos plus 35 A320ceos – the winning result of a very intense competition. Another major endorsement for the A320 Family came from Lufthansa with the firming-up of 100 more aircraft. Additional A320 Family orders and commitments came from: Hong Kong Aviation Capital for 60; ILFC for 50; Spirit for 20; and Tunisia’s Syphax Airlines for three – significantly the first A320neo commitment from Africa.

Another star at Paris was the A350 XWB which flew for the first time on Friday 14th June 2013 and successfully completed its second flight on Wednesday 19th June. At the show this aircraft gained 69 more orders & commitments worth $21.4 billion from four customers on different continents. Air France-KLM placed a firm order for 25 A350-900s. Meanwhile, Singapore Airlines, already a large customer for the type, returned to order 30 more A350-900s; United Airlines also placed an additional A350 order for 10 A350-1000s -- not only bringing its total A350 orders to 35, but also upgrading its previous order for 25 A350-900s to the larger A350-1000 model to replace its Boeing 777s. In addition, Sri Lankan signed a commitment for four A350-900s to complement an order for six A330-300s at the show.

At the top end of the product range, the flagship A380 received a commitment for 20 aircraft from the world’s third largest wide-body lessor, Doric Lease Corp, in a deal worth more than $8 billion. The contract with Doric is significant as it opens up a new, additional route to market for the A380, which is now available to airlines who wish to acquire the aircraft under the flexibility of an operating lease agreement.

John Leahy, Airbus’s Chief Operating Officer, Customers said: “The dramatic rainfall and thunder storms at Le Bourget this year didn’t dampen our order intake.”

He added: “Our A350 XWB has been out-selling the 787 by better than 2- to-1 over the last five years. In addition our A320neo Family retains a 60 percent market share lead. That’s a ‘corner’ I want to stay boxed into.”
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Old June 20th, 2013, 05:06 PM   #890
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I believe the net order total for the whole year is now 71:

CIT: 10
VIP: -1
Tunisian: -3
Paris orders: +65

It's a pretty close race with the 787 that is now at 82 net orders in 2013.
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Old June 20th, 2013, 05:21 PM   #891
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Classic statement from John Leahy. Pathetic.
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Old June 20th, 2013, 05:42 PM   #892
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Technically he's right about the A350 outselling the 787 over the last 5 years (that's until this year so far). But that's only because the 787 has seen several major cancelations, that were partly caused by airlines changing their future plans and partly by the delays of the program.

But if you only look at the gross orders then you see that Boeing booked more new orders for then 787 then Airbus for the A350 over the last couple of years. So the A350 is not selling better then the 787, it just has not been subject to some major cancellations.

Which is backed by the fact that several of the recent bigger order were 50/50 splits between the A350 and the 787. See Singapore, United, BA and Air France-KLM & CIT who placed their 787 orders a couple of years ago.
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Old June 20th, 2013, 06:54 PM   #893
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According to a.net there where 4 landings
Well, no matter how many total flights were, what matters is that this beauty is flying and everything seems to be going well.
And the video of the second flight (shame they didn't show all the action)


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The A350 is set to fly over the Paris Airshow tomorrow, the 1st public day of the event.
http://news.cnet.com/8301-11386_3-57...aris-air-show/


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Just the other week Leahy said the 787-10 would be as successful as the 767-400 (that only got 38 orders). Now 102 firm orders and commitments for the 787-10 later he suddenly needs an competing answer to this success with a A350-900 with de-rated engines.

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Exclusive: Airbus offers 'regional' A350 - sales chief

(Reuters) - Airbus (EAD.PA) is offering airlines a shorter-range "regional" version of its A350-900 passenger jet, sales chief John Leahy told Reuters at the Paris Airshow on Thursday.

"I have a regional version...On the A350-900 there is a regional version with de-rated thrust," Leahy told Reuters.

An Airbus spokeswoman said the regional A350 would "match the payload-range capability of the (Boeing) 787-10".
full article:
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/...95J0J320130620

That's a nice 360 from Leahy that puts all the sales talk from both manufacturers in perspective, it's 90% BS, and 10% were the actual customers, the airlines are listening to.


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The number of landings don't really count. Boeing also do a landing with the 787 during test flights, but the 2 segments are counted as 1 flight.
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The number of landings don't really count. Boeing also do a landing with the 787 during test flights, but the 2 segments are counted as 1 flight.
Thanks for the info.
Here is another video of second flight with more details.
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United has ordered 10 A350-1000, and converted its previous order to A350-1000s too.
Now that's really interesting. I wonder if the A350-1000 will replace its current B744s, B763ERs, and B772ERs once the planes start arriving in the US... It looks like I'll be seeing them pretty often in SFO.
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Technically he's right about the A350 outselling the 787 over the last 5 years (that's until this year so far). But that's only because the 787 has seen several major cancelations, that were partly caused by airlines changing their future plans and partly by the delays of the program.

But if you only look at the gross orders then you see that Boeing booked more new orders for then 787 then Airbus for the A350 over the last couple of years. So the A350 is not selling better then the 787, it just has not been subject to some major cancellations.

Which is backed by the fact that several of the recent bigger order were 50/50 splits between the A350 and the 787. See Singapore, United, BA and Air France-KLM & CIT who placed their 787 orders a couple of years ago.
Considering this fact, it should be interesting to see if United chooses to replace their 777-200/ER and 747-400 fleet with a mix of A350-1000 and 777-9X aircraft.
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700 orders by the end of the year is looking almost certain.
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Old June 20th, 2013, 11:23 PM   #899
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I believe the net order total for the whole year is now 71:

CIT: 10
VIP: -1
Tunisian: -3
Paris orders: +65

It's a pretty close race with the 787 that is now at 82 net orders in 2013.
You forget the 25 frames from ALC:

http://www.airbus.com/presscentre/pr...ient-aircraft/

> CIT: 10
> United: 10 (Paris)
> Air France: 25 (Paris)
> ALC: 25
> Singapore: 30 (Paris)
> VIP: -1
> Tunisian: -3

Gross: 100
Net: 96

MoUs, to be firmed later:

> British Airways: 18
> SriLankan: 4

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700 orders by the end of the year is looking almost certain.
678 firm + 22 MoU and plenty of options.
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