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Old June 4th, 2005, 08:00 AM   #121
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Airbus Says A350 Ready To Take On 787
Second Version Will Challenge 777, P-I Told

By James Wallace
Seattle Post-Intelligencer
June 3, 2005


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-- With the order count for Boeing's new 787 soaring, John Leahy of Airbus is heading for the Paris Air Show later this month ready to close the gap with his longtime foe.

A series of design changes during the last three months to the A350 are nearly complete, and, after a slow start, Airbus finally has the plane that customers say they want, said Leahy, chief commercial officer at Airbus and its bulldog sales chief.

Not only is he going after Boeing's 787 with one version of the A350, but he's prepared to take on Boeing's 777-200 with a second and bigger A350.

"I'm now getting an airplane out there that is more than competitive with the 787, and you will see orders very soon," he said in an interview this week at the annual meeting here of the International Air Transport Association, or IATA. The group represents some 270 international airlines.

Leahy said at least four airlines will announce orders for more than 100 A350s at the air show, which begins June 13. The bulk of those are expected to come from Emirates, for as many as 50 planes, although Leahy refused to identify any customers.

It's possible that by year's end Airbus could have 200 orders for the A350, Leahy said, but after what befell Boeing last year he did not want to make a flat-out prediction. Boeing executives had confidently predicted 200 orders for the 787 by the end of 2004, then had to explain why the company fell well short of that target.

During the first half of this year, however, the 787 order book has surged. Boeing now has 266 orders and commitments from 21 customers for the 787, and sources say more 787 orders will be announced either just before or during the air show.

One key customer for either the 787 or A350 that won't be announcing an order at the air show is Singapore Airlines, Boeing's biggest 777 operator and also the first airline that will take delivery of the Airbus A380 superjumbo late next year.

Singapore Chief Executive Chew Choon Seng said last year he was very interested in the 787 but wanted to wait to consider the new Airbus.

"The specifications and design targets for the A350 are being crystallized right now," Chew said in an interview this week. "Airbus is just about to finalize the version they will offer us to best match our requirements."

One factor that works in favor of the fuel-efficient 787 and A350 is the "stubbornly high price of fuel," Chew said. "That makes both propositions more attractive right now. But a lot will depend, at the end of the day, on how much it will cost to own and operate. We are waiting to hear what Airbus presents. If they price the A350 attractively enough, we would take a look."

Chew said Singapore Airlines will issue a request for proposals to Boeing and Airbus in a few months and could have a decision by the "turn of the year."

The 787 and A350 are twin-engine midsize jets.

When Airbus announced late last year that it would offer the A350-800 and the A350-900 to customers, they were presented as derivatives of the A330-200 and the bigger A330-300, but with a new and improved wing, greater use of lightweight composites and with the fuel-efficient engines being developed for the 787.

Although the fuselage cross-section of the A350 remains the same as that of the A330, the inside of the fuselage has been revised to provide more room for passengers as well as more seats, Leahy said. By moving the aft pressure bulkhead and relocating the crew rest under the cockpit, the A350-800 will have about 15-18 more seats than the A330-200, Leahy said, and about 30 more seats than the 787-8. The bigger A350-900 is also gaining seats over the A330-300 with the addition of a couple fuselage frames.

Boeing plans three versions of the 787 -- a short-range 787-7, the long-range 787-8 and 787-9, which will be bigger.

Even before the recent changes, the A350-800 and A350-900 were bigger than the 787-8 and 787-9. In a two-class configuration, the 787-9 will seat 258 passengers, or 35 more than the 787-8

Emirates had wanted Boeing to stretch the 787-9 even further, and when Boeing would not, Emirates decided to go with the A350.

Boeing does not want to make the 787-9 too big or it would be competing against its 300-seat 777-200.

"Boeing argues they have a little more headroom on their plane, so we changed the shape of the sidewall to have similar width," Leahy said of the recent A350 changes.

The A350-800, with more seats than the 787-8, will be able to fly about 300 miles farther than the Boeing plane with about 4 percent lower fuel burn per seat and lower maintenance cost per seat, Leahy said. The cash operating costs to the airline per seat will be less than for the 787-8, as will the plane's empty weight per seat, he said.

And not only does the A350-900 beat the 787-9 on any seat-cost comparison, but it is also beats the 777-200, Leahy said.

"We have about same number of seats, and I can fly about same range, within a couple hundred miles, but burn 30 percent less fuel and I'm doing it with a much quieter airplane," Leahy said of the A350-900 versus the 777-200.

Scott Carson, Boeing's jetliner sales chief, said he's not worried about the latest A350 changes.

"We are happy, from both a 787 and 777 point of view, with the tactic they have chosen," he said in an interview at the same airline conference in Tokyo that Leahy attended.

"We think we can hold our own in any toe-to-toe competition."

Taking on the 787 as well as the 777 with the A350 represents a big switch in the Airbus strategy, Carson said.

"We would be pretty happy with that as a 777 competitor," Boeing's Carson said. "The 777 is still preferred by passengers. It is roomy inside and has high ceilings."

Moving the crew rest below the cockpit as Airbus did on the A350 eats up valuable cargo space, Carson said.

"From a 787 view, that's neat because our plane has huge cargo volumes," Carson said. "And from a 777 view, that's an interesting competitive place to be (for Airbus and the A350) because we have the cargo market."

Airbus has lost two recent high-profile campaigns to Boeing that it had been counting on to gain momentum for the A350.

Northwest, the biggest Airbus customer in the United States, rejected the A350 and ordered the 787, even though it operates a growing fleet of A330s.

Air Canada, another important Airbus customer, also rejected the A350 in favor of the 787.

Leahy said if Airbus had been able to offer the A350 in its present form, those campaigns, and others won by the 787, might have turned out different.

"We have been listening to the airlines and going through the design loops," Leahy said.

"Our customers said we should have done this a year ago. But that's water over the dam."

Bring it on, counters Boeing's Carson.

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Old June 7th, 2005, 07:05 AM   #122
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LOT Eyes Up Airbus' A350

By Andrew Kureth & Agnieszka Barteczko
Warsaw Business Journal
June 6, 2005



Contrary to previous rumors, PLL LOT is not considering the purchase of the Airbus A330 but its A350 model.

The airline has to make up its mind as to the investment in new machines by the end of this month. PLL LOT president Marek Grabarek revealed that the favorites are the Airbus A350 and the Boeing B787 Dreamliner. The supervisory board must accept the final choice.

The A350 is a project that Airbus has been trying to sell since December 2004. It is meant to be a response to Boeing's 787. The newest technologies will be applied in constructing the plane, including those used in the A380, the biggest passenger plane in the world. The Boeing 787 has similar parameters to the Airbus, but the American producer says its plane will use 20 percent less fuel.

If the Polish airline decides to buy the Airbus A350 it will be the first order placed for this plane. The contract's value varies from $1-5 (z?.3.4-17) billion, depending on the number of planes ordered. If PLL LOT chooses Boeing, they will also be one of the first in the queue.
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Old June 9th, 2005, 06:34 AM   #123
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EADS To Press On With Development Of A350

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June 8, 2005



The parent company of Airbus vowed Wednesday to press ahead with development of the mid-sized A350 jet to compete with Boeing Co.'s 787 Dreamliner, amid a simmering trade dispute over subsidies to the trans-Atlantic rivals.

European Aeronautic Defence and Space Co. said its board had "confirmed its willingness to proceed towards the full industrial launch of the program with its partner BAE Systems by the end of September."

EADS owns 80 percent of Toulouse, France-based Airbus and Britain's BAE Systems PLC owns the remaining 20 percent.

Airbus has so far announced just 10 non-binding orders for the A350, while Boeing has 266 orders and commitments for the 787. But Airbus' chief salesman, John Leahy, has said he expects to announce more than 100 further A350 orders during next week's Paris Air Show at Le Bourget, close to the French capital.

Plans for European government aid to fund development of the A350 are at the center of a trade dispute between the United States and the EU, after Washington filed a complaint at the World Trade Organization.

EADS last month confirmed its "full support" for the elimination of all kinds of aircraft subsidies including the refundable loans Airbus receives from governments - provided that all federal, state and foreign subsidies to Boeing are also scrapped.

The European defense company also spelled out its conditions for giving up government loans for development of the plane in a letter to the European Commission on Tuesday, an EU official said.

But the official, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said that, in the absence of a comprehensive deal to cut subsidies on both sides, the EADS offer did not affect plans to fund the usual one-third of A350 development costs with loans from Airbus' four government backers: France, Germany, Britain and Spain.
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Old June 9th, 2005, 06:38 AM   #124
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EADS Aims For Airbus A350 Go-Ahead By End Of September

Reuters UK
June 8, 2005


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-- Airbus parent firm EADS said on Wednesday it aimed to launch its Airbus A350 model by the end of September, dashing hopes of a formal go-ahead at next week's Paris air show.

"The board confirmed its willingness to proceed towards the full industrial launch of the programme with its partner BAE Systems by the end of September," EADS said in a statement.

Orders for the A350 model are expected to be a highlight of the world's largest air show, where both Airbus and rival Boeing Co. traditionally make major announcements.

BAE, which owns 20 percent of Airbus, said separately that Airbus had lined up 100 commitments for the plane so far.

Officially, Airbus has just one commitment for the A350 from Spain's Air Europa for 10 planes and two options.

It is also in talks to seek A350 orders from carriers Emirates and Qatar Airways, and a deal with carrier America West is in the works.

Boeing has stormed ahead in the mid-sized market with orders for its new 787, which has secured 266 commitments from 21 customers.

Plans to seek European state loans to cover a third of the A350's development costs have sparked a showdown between the European Union and the United States which threatens to become the biggest fight in the World Trade Organisation's 10-year history.

"Airbus has not yet made any final decision on the financing," BAE said on Wednesday.

Weak demand for the mooted A350 has triggered a series of design changes aimed at winning enough customers to allow the EADS and BAE boards to approve construction of the plane.

The programme is expected to cost at least 3 billion euros.
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Old June 11th, 2005, 07:49 AM   #125
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Emirates Says It Won't Unveil New Orders At Paris Air Show

By MarketWatch
June 10, 2005


LONDON
-- Dubai-based Emirates Airlines said Friday it isn't planning to unveil new aircraft orders at next week's Paris Air Show.

A spokesman said no final decision had been made regarding the purchase of new planes.

"We're continuing to look at options for future aircraft orders, including the proposed (Airbus) A350 and Boeing 787 and 777-300ER/200LR variants," he said, reading from a company statement.

Some industry analysts had expected Emirates to announce an order for Airbus' proposed A350 at the show, helping the European plane maker to officially launch the aircraft. Earlier this week, however, Airbus' main owner - European Aeronautic Defence & Space Co. - said it's now aiming for an industrial launch of the twin-engine A350 program by September.

The A350, which is based on the A330 model, is designed to compete with Boeing Co.'s increasingly successful 787 Dreamliner. So far, Airbus has only received commitments for 10 of the planes from Air Europa.

Some observers believe Emirates now look to announce the new plane order at the Dubai Air Show in November. The Emirates spokesman said the airline already has some 96 Boeing and Airbus planes on order.

Airbus executives have said previously they expect to have over 50 orders for the A350 planes by the time of the air show. Middle-east carrier Qatar Airways is considered a likely buyer of the A350, according to analysts.
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Old June 14th, 2005, 07:37 PM   #126
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Airbus wins key A350 orders despite funding doubts
By LAURENCE FROST
13 June 2005

LE BOURGET, France (AP) - On the first day of the Paris Air Show, Airbus came out swinging in its fight against Boeing, saying it has won enough orders to launch its mid-sized A350 jet after beating its rival to a 60-plane deal with Qatar Airways.

After a run of bad news for the European plane maker, Qatar Airways announced it chose to buy up to 60 of Airbus' A350s instead of Boeing's 787 "Dreamliner."

Although the Doha, Qatar-based carrier also said it plans to buy at least 20 Boeing 777s, the A350 announcement is a major boost for Airbus and a blow to Chicago-based Boeing Co. -- which had hoped Qatar would add to the 266 Dreamliner orders already on its books.

Before the Qatar deal, which has yet to be finalized, Airbus had announced just 10 nonbinding A350 orders from Spanish carrier Air Europa. Boeing's claims -- that the A350, derived from the existing A330, was no match for its all-new jet -- were gaining credibility.

But Qatar's order was seen as a vote of confidence in the latest, improved design for the Airbus jet, which now includes more lightweight composites than originally promised.

"It's certainly a well-needed morale boost for the A350 program," said Jon Kutler, head of the U.S. aerospace consulting group Jefferies Quarterdeck.

Airbus Chief Executive Noel Forgeard said the Qatari deal means he now has "more than enough" orders to launch the plane.

That decision has effectively been postponed by Airbus parent European Aeronautic Defence and Space Co., which said last week it planned to give the green light "by the end of September," instead of during the show, as many had expected. Dubai, United Arab Emirates-based airline Emirates, which had been expected to order 50 of the planes this week, said last week it had no plans to announce any purchases.

EADS has been without a CEO for over a month. The appointment of French Airbus boss Forgeard and German Tom Enders as joint-CEOs has been blocked by German resistance to Forgeard's plans to increase the group's control over divisions including Airbus when he takes up the job.

World Trade Organization litigation filed by the United States against the government funding that Airbus receives to develop its planes has also delayed a decision on how to finance the A350. The EU has countersued, citing military funding and subsidies received by Boeing and its foreign suppliers.

A person close to Airbus, who asked not to be identified because no decision had been made, said the company and its shareholders are asking governments to contribute U.S.-style research funding toward the A350's development cost, instead of the usual soft loans. Washington has attacked the loans as subsidies because they shift financing costs and risk from Airbus to the governments since they do not have to be repaid if the plane flops commercially.

Ministers from Airbus' four supporting governments -- France, Germany, Britain and Spain -- discussed A350 funding with Forgeard on the margins of the show but reached no firm conclusion, French Transport Minister Dominique Perben said.

Asked whether they had considered research funding as an alternative to development loans, British Industry Minister Alun Michael said: "It's very clear that research and technology is at the heart of the long-term viability of the industry."

Airbus still has to clinch more deals if it's to deliver on Chief Commercial Officer John Leahy's earlier pledge to unveil more than 100 new A350 orders at the show.

Leahy said Monday the total order book stands at 90, including the Air Europa deal and 20 more commitments from U.S. Airways -- which are subject to the completion of its planned merger with America West Holdings Corp.

U.S. Airways said last month it had struck a deal with Airbus to become the launch customer for the A350 in return for a $250 million loan from the Toulouse, France-based plane maker.

Shares in EADS, which owns 80 percent of Airbus, closed 0.2 percent lower at 23.85 euros ($28.77). Britain's BAE Systems PLC, which owns the rest, ended 1.2 percent higher at 280.25 pence ($5.08) in London.

More than 200 planes and helicopters are on display at Le Bourget, the aerospace industry's biggest gathering, alongside aeronautical and military hardware from 41 countries.

The clear star of the show is the Airbus A380 "superjumbo," the world's largest passenger plane, which took part in a display flight before French President Jacques Chirac. The 555-seater, set to fly every day at its first air show appearance, made its maiden flight in April.

Air show organizers are expecting a total of 300,000 visitors throughout the week. The show opens to the public for its last three days, June 17-19.
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^ Thanks for the article hk!

Well that's 60 down, now Airbus still owes us another 40 orders before the end of the Airshow!

.. and here's 12 more!



Airbus Gets More Orders For A350 Planes

By Rod Stone and David Pearson
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June 14, 2005


PARIS
-- European plane maker Airbus said Tuesday it has received an order for 12 A350 planes from Aviation Lease And Finance Co., or Alafco, a Kuwaiti aviation leasing company.

The company has also taken out options for a further six A350s. The order will mainly be for the smaller A350-800 model, but Alafco has the flexibility to take some of the larger A350-900 versions.

Alafco's order for the A350 is the first by a leasing company.

Deliveries are due to start in 2012. The list price of the A350-800 model is $160 million, while the 900 lists for $180 million.

U.S.-based General Electric Co. said separately that it has signed an agreement with Alafco to supply GEnx engines for the 12 A350s on order. The engines are worth more than $300 million.

John Leahy, Airbus' chief commercial officer, said the company now has a total of 102 orders and commitments for the A350 from four customers. He added that more A350 contracts can be expected to be announced at this week's Paris Air Show.
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I think it will be interesting to see the A350 although I'm more of a Boeing 787 fan.
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this is the first plane of airbus i love!
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No wonder Iberia hasn't bought any A350s!!!
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BTW I'll catch up with posting articles from Paris Air Show orders this weekend.
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... Here's A List!

Airbus A350 List Of Orders & Commitments:
As Of June 21st 2005

5 -- Kingfisher Airlines
8 -- TAM
10 -- GE CAS
10 -- Air Europa
12 -- ALAFCO
20 -- U.S. Airways
60 -- Qatar Airways


Total: 125
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