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Old April 12th, 2014, 03:29 AM   #1421
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Refueling while the enignes are running...I think.
Easyjet does that all the time
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Is it a long process to start and stop jet engines?
I could be wrong but I believe the process can save an airline approximately 10 minutes which equates to 60 minutes a day based on 6 rotations (roughly)
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Old April 12th, 2014, 04:04 AM   #1422
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I could be wrong but I believe the process can save an airline approximately 10 minutes which equates to 60 minutes a day based on 6 rotations (roughly)
60 minutes? Wow that for a budget airline is a massive amount off time.
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Old April 13th, 2014, 01:56 PM   #1423
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60 minutes? Wow that for a budget airline is a massive amount off time.
the 10min they can save can have a big effect when flying to bigger airports with limited slots or slot restrictions. Although it's more manpower heavy and more dangerous. When Easyjet does that in TLL on their route to LGW it requires
at least two firetrucks next to the plane....
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Old April 13th, 2014, 02:04 PM   #1424
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The electronic window shades is so dumb. More weight and more potential issues when each of them get broken after years of use... and for what...
You mean like the 787? I thought the shades were manual on the A350.
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Old April 13th, 2014, 02:06 PM   #1425
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the 10min they can save can have a big effect when flying to bigger airports with limited slots or slot restrictions. Although it's more manpower heavy and more dangerous. When Easyjet does that in TLL on their route to LGW it requires
at least two firetrucks next to the plane....
If the plane is certified, why are firetrucks required? If it's not certified, why is it allowed? If it's certified and so dangerous, why was it certified?
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Old April 13th, 2014, 02:55 PM   #1426
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60 minutes? Wow that for a budget airline is a massive amount off time.
Don't quote me as that was just a ball park figure.
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Old April 13th, 2014, 03:36 PM   #1427
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You mean like the 787? I thought the shades were manual on the A350.
The shades are by and large manual on the A350. But electric shades are an option.
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Old April 13th, 2014, 06:01 PM   #1428
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If the plane is certified, why are firetrucks required? If it's not certified, why is it allowed? If it's certified and so dangerous, why was it certified?
I think it had sth. to do with passengers being on board during it, although it was quite a long time ago..so things might have changed by now...
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Old April 14th, 2014, 08:05 AM   #1429
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Old April 14th, 2014, 08:31 AM   #1430
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MSN3 @ Cotswold Airport - April 10, 2014


Airbus A350-900 XWB by Nigel Musgrove, on Flickr


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Old April 14th, 2014, 04:27 PM   #1431
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Refueling while the enignes are running...I think.
Easyjet does that all the time
That's not what it means.

Its exactly as it sounds - the fuel itself is at a high temperature as found at airports in very hot countries (e.g. Dubai airport).
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Old April 14th, 2014, 06:06 PM   #1432
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That's not what it means.

Its exactly as it sounds - the fuel itself is at a high temperature as found at airports in very hot countries (e.g. Dubai airport).
yeah... you might want to check your sources(google: hot refueling) I don't think that there's a difference for fuel if it's at -15 or +10 or even +35

back to topic... Does anyone know when Finnair will get their first A350?
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Old April 15th, 2014, 01:43 PM   #1433
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yeah... you might want to check your sources(google: hot refueling) I don't think that there's a difference for fuel if it's at -15 or +10 or even +35

back to topic... Does anyone know when Finnair will get their first A350?
Perhaps you should google hot weather refuelling. The difference is the density of the fuel as it expands/contracts due to the temperature.

This testing used to take place in Filton (see details of the rig HERE) but now has to take place elsewhere due to the closure of the airfield. The fuel is now loaded into tankers at the desired temp in Filton (the rig can heat it to +-50deg) and taken to Kemble for the test.

If you look again at the photos posted by nawa87, I very much doubt those people would be standing that close to a running engine without ear defenders on.
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Old April 16th, 2014, 08:22 PM   #1434
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Perhaps you should google hot weather refuelling. The difference is the density of the fuel as it expands/contracts due to the temperature.

This testing used to take place in Filton (see details of the rig HERE) but now has to take place elsewhere due to the closure of the airfield. The fuel is now loaded into tankers at the desired temp in Filton (the rig can heat it to +-50deg) and taken to Kemble for the test.

If you look again at the photos posted by nawa87, I very much doubt those people would be standing that close to a running engine without ear defenders on.
Didn't know that... thank you, My mistake as before the talks were about "hot refueling" not "hot weather refueling" No hard feelings
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Old April 21st, 2014, 11:56 AM   #1435
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A350XWB ultra short landing.

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Old April 21st, 2014, 03:09 PM   #1436
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A350XWB ultra short landing.

Ultra Short Landing is an understatement
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Old April 21st, 2014, 03:16 PM   #1437
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So obivously that was full spoilers, brakes and reversers. But can you increase the thrust with reversers on? Or is it capped or a constant value?
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Old April 21st, 2014, 06:23 PM   #1438
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So obivously that was full spoilers, brakes and reversers. But can you increase the thrust with reversers on? Or is it capped or a constant value?
Yes, it is variable between idle reverse and maximum reverse.
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Old April 22nd, 2014, 01:37 AM   #1439
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If I remember correctly, max reverse is about 40% of max forward
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Old April 23rd, 2014, 06:29 PM   #1440
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Azul Brazilian Airlines announced today that they will lease 5 A350-900s from ILFC due to be delivered from 2017.

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ILFC and Azul Brazilian Airlines Sign Agreement to Lease Five Airbus A350-900 and Three A330-200 Aircraft

LOS ANGELES, Apr 23, 2014 (BUSINESS WIRE) -- International Lease Finance Corporation (ILFC), a wholly owned subsidiary of American International Group, Inc. AIG +0.59% , announced today that it has signed an agreement with Azul Brazilian Airlines (Azul) to lease five Airbus A350-900 and three A330-200 aircraft. The aircraft will be operated on the airline’s new international routes from São Paulo/Campinas airport to the U.S., which are expected to launch in early 2015.

The A350-900 aircraft are anticipated to deliver in 2017, while deliveries of the A330-200 aircraft are expected to begin in 2014. Rolls-Royce engines will power the aircraft.
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