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Old December 16th, 2013, 11:25 PM   #321
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I cannot tell my source, but I can say I have no reasons not to trust it.

I posted some statistics on the Italian forum: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...postcount=6037

Border station Numbers of freight trains in a week (Trains on the busiest day, usually Wednesday or Thursday)

Ventimiglia 20 (5)
Modane 300 (58)
Domodossola 430 (76)
Luino 260 (50)
Chiasso 360 (67)
Brennero 530 (100)
Tarvisio 300 (51)
Gorizia 50 (8)
Villa Opicina 120 (22)

Real numbers of the traffic during a week in spring 2012. Note that on the Gotthard (Chiasso+Luino) and the Brenner there are trains that ends before the border and that some trains that in Germany and Switzerland travel as a single train in Italy are split into two.
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Old December 17th, 2013, 12:31 AM   #322
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Villach-Tarvisio crossing will have more trains as OBB becomes an open-access operator.

Let's also remember traffic to/from Slovenia had been historically much lower than that to Switzerland, since Yugoslavia was a hostile communist country...
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Old December 17th, 2013, 09:26 AM   #323
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Trenitalia signs Pesa DMU order
17 Dec 2013



ITALY: National passenger operator Trenitalia signed a €139·6m contract for Polish manufacturer Pesa to supply 40 ATR220 Atribo diesel multiple-units on December 12, after the rejection of an appeal by Stadler.

The first of the DMUs is scheduled for delivery by November 2014, and there is an option for up to 20 more.

Pesa has previously sold 41 similar DMUs to three Italian operators.
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Old December 17th, 2013, 09:42 AM   #324
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Let's also remember traffic to/from Slovenia had been historically much lower than that to Switzerland, since Yugoslavia was a hostile communist country...
When Yugoslavia was still a communist country (albeit a non aligned one, not hostile to the West at all) it was easier to travel to that country by train then it is now. And that while Slovenia and Croatia are even EU members now...

There used to be direct train Oostende - Split at one time, and there were many international trains to Yugoslavia from other places in Western Europe. How things have changed...
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Old December 17th, 2013, 09:46 AM   #325
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SŽ wanted to run Siemens Desiros to Villa Opicina, but FS demands testing first, even though our Desiros already ran to Opicina ten years ago. .
Indeed. It was on such a Desiro that I travelled Ljubljana - Trieste in 2004. I remember the conductor telling me that in Vila Opicina it woudl be the end, and I would be on my own. But I had heard rumors of a connecting coach, and there was one. It was a private one though, maybe a local company seeing an opportunity.

We'll see how it evolves. I really would like to see more cross border trains in that part of the world.
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Old December 17th, 2013, 10:31 AM   #326
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Villach-Tarvisio crossing will have more trains as OBB becomes an open-access operator.
Only if Trenitalia doesn't boycott them...

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Let's also remember traffic to/from Slovenia had been historically much lower than that to Switzerland, since Yugoslavia was a hostile communist country...
As said by K, 25 years ago there were much more trains than there are today, in Villa Opicina.

Well, even a scheduled train per week would be more than the current passenger traffic...
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Old December 17th, 2013, 03:41 PM   #327
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Let's also remember traffic to/from Slovenia had been historically much lower than that to Switzerland, since Yugoslavia was a hostile communist country...
You are not very good at history, aren't you? Yugoslavia was definitely socialistic inclined with notably big state sector of economy, but at the same time, of all central\eastern Europe countries it was the most capitalism inclined one...
Learn the damn history by proper and full books, not propaganda leaflets...
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Old December 17th, 2013, 09:17 PM   #328
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Yougoslavia had a market economy and was never a part of the Warsaw pact (the soviet counterpart of NATO). It had free hospitals and education, and larger companys were state-property, but as a Westerner you often passed the Yougoslav border without being bothered by the customs (by train, asleep in a sleeping car, with your passport with the guard at least).
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Old December 19th, 2013, 01:48 PM   #330
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May I ask a little tourist question?

Me and my girlfriend want to travel in Italy next summer, but we have some questions!

- What is the first time you can pre-book tickets (economy, super economy), because at the moment I get a "Trenitalia hassn't loaded the schedule yet"
- Are there any lines you say we must travel, I also would like to try the Italo/Frecciarossa service!

Thank you for your time!
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May I ask a little tourist question?

Me and my girlfriend want to travel in Italy next summer, but we have some questions!

- What is the first time you can pre-book tickets (economy, super economy), because at the moment I get a "Trenitalia hassn't loaded the schedule yet"
- Are there any lines you say we must travel, I also would like to try the Italo/Frecciarossa service!

Thank you for your time!
Trenitalia was talking of expanding the booking window to 120 days from current 90. Small trick 1: regional services (fixed prices) only appear as independently bookable within 7 days (though they are often sold in conjunction with Freccie and other trains); if that is a problem, book your other trains and buy your regional tickets just before you depart. Small trick 2: TreNord operates some services in Lombardia and their trains do not appear perfectly on Trenitalia schedule.
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This video shows train which was damaged and haulted by landslide near town of Andora. The accident happened on the 17th January:

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Switzerland and Italy agree financing for 4m corridor

SWITZERLAND will provide €120m towards gauge enhancement works on the Luino Ranzo – Gallarate/Novara line in northern Italy under an agreement signed in Berne on January 28 by Swiss federal councilor for transport Mrs Doris Leuthard, and Italian transport minister Mr Maurizio Lupi.

The project will upgrade this key freight link between the Swiss border and northern Italy to accommodate semitrailers with a 4m corner height, and is an important part of the Swiss Federal Council's plan to create a continuous 4m corridor from Basle to Northern Italy via the Gotthard Base Tunnel, in line with its modal shift policy.

The agreement also includes a provision for Italy to spend €40m on upgrading the line between Chiasso and Milan. The work mainly involves increasing the loading gauge in tunnels and modifying platform canopies at stations.

This division of financial responsibilities between the two parties was described by Leuthard as being "fair". The agreement is based on a decision made by the Swiss parliament at its winter session to invest €228m in Italy. The next stage will be to transfer the sum of €120m to Italian infrastructure manager RFI under an agreement to be signed with the Swiss Ministry of Transport.

Under the terms of the agreement, the work on both lines should be finished by the end of 2020, when the entire Gotthard base tunnel project including the Ceneri tunnel is due for completion. This will allow the carriage of 4m semitrailers on the entire route through Switzerland to Gallarate/Novara via Luino and Milan via Chiasso.

At present the only 4m rail corridor though Switzerland is the Lötschberg – Simplon route, where capacity is almost exhausted.

From Rail Journal, 30th January, 2014
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You are not very good at history, aren't you? Yugoslavia was definitely socialistic inclined with notably big state sector of economy, but at the same time, of all central\eastern Europe countries it was the most capitalism inclined one...
Learn the damn history by proper and full books, not propaganda leaflets...
Traffic to Yugoslavia was pretty intense, it was a big holiday destination. Also, the large expatriate contributed to the heavy traffic. In the 70s we even had a direct sleeper carrige Stockholm-Belgrade-Bar!
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Old February 4th, 2014, 12:52 AM   #338
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Milano - November 2013

Some pictures from Milano:


464 237 Milano Porta Garibaldi 18 November 2013


Italo set 21 Milano Porta Garibaldi 19 November 2013


Trenitalia set 12B & Italo set 21 Milano Porta Garibaldi 19 November 2013

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Old February 4th, 2014, 07:54 PM   #339
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Bella .Italo

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Some from Roma:


Treno 01 Roma Trastevere 20 November 2013


Set 39A Roma Ostienne 20 November 2013


Roma Termini 20 November 2013


Set 37A Roma Termini 20 November 2013


Set 33A Roma Termini 22 November 2013


402169 Roma Termini 22 November 2013

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