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Old December 21st, 2011, 02:13 PM   #281
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Photos ready from our 10 day trip around on KORAIL, very enjoyable, captions not ready yet I'm afraid
http://locopage.smugmug.com/Other/20...uth-Korea-New/
So many great train pictures. I think it will be better if you make a caption about it.

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Almost all stations have a new version of the latest rail map dated 2010.12.31, we tried to get a copy to take away but failed
http://locopage.smugmug.com/Other/20...4_fDH4fW7-O-LB

Can anyone supply a really big high res origonal copy of this please? It's never possible to get good copy by taking photo of it sadly

Will return to try KORAIL again soon!
Korail site provides the latest rail map.(image size : 2362x3384)
http://info.korail.com/2007/download...map_101230.jpg
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Old December 21st, 2011, 02:30 PM   #282
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So many great train pictures. I think it will be better if you make a caption about it.

Korail site provides the latest rail map.(image size : 2362x3384)
http://info.korail.com/2007/download...map_101230.jpg
Captions will soon be ready Thank you for map link, just what I was looking for

What else do Korail offer for download please?
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Old December 21st, 2011, 02:43 PM   #283
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Korail site provides the latest rail map.(image size : 2362x3384)
http://info.korail.com/2007/download...map_101230.jpg
Actually its not quite the version I'm looking for as the one we try to find is all straight lines and very interesting as it has the distances around all the junction curves (look carfully on this link and you'll see difference marked in red) http://locopage.smugmug.com/Other/20...4_fDH4fW7-O-LB
Is this also available for download please? (This is the version at each station on display). Thanks
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Old December 21st, 2011, 03:48 PM   #284
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Actually its not quite the version I'm looking for as the one we try to find is all straight lines and very interesting as it has the distances around all the junction curves (look carfully on this link and you'll see difference marked in red) http://locopage.smugmug.com/Other/20...4_fDH4fW7-O-LB
Is this also available for download please? (This is the version at each station on display). Thanks
I can see what you are trying to find.

http://cfile29.uf.tistory.com/image/...4EF1DC8229DB76
2010.11.01 Version (Scan Version)
http://korearail.tistory.com/attachm...E1CB2E08A2.PDF
2010.11.01 Version (PDF Version)


http://cfile25.uf.tistory.com/image/...4EF1DE2F19426D
2010.12.31 Version (Source. Someone took a picture on the station, just like you. I can't find scan or pdf version of it.)
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Old December 23rd, 2011, 12:33 AM   #285
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I can see what you are trying to find.

http://cfile29.uf.tistory.com/image/...4EF1DC8229DB76
2010.11.01 Version (Scan Version)
http://korearail.tistory.com/attachm...E1CB2E08A2.PDF
2010.11.01 Version (PDF Version)


http://cfile25.uf.tistory.com/image/...4EF1DE2F19426D
2010.12.31 Version (Source. Someone took a picture on the station, just like you. I can't find scan or pdf version of it.)
Many thanks, these are very good quality! If the latest version appears sometime please send a link to here. Thank you!
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Old January 19th, 2012, 12:32 AM   #286
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Thank you for the map links, really excellent.

Industrial Railway Lines and Locomotives

I have some questions - On the Jungang Line - can you please tell me the names of the stations after Jecheon km 149.3 and before Danyang km 166.7. There is a freight station (128.278629625482, 37.07481116308958) between Gomyeong and Dodam, where there is a private siding of more than a kilometre in length, leaving the north end of the yard heading north then east through a short tunnel into the premises of a cement factory. What is the name of the Korail freight station, and what is name of the cement works, please?

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Thank you for the map links, really excellent.

Industrial Railway Lines and Locomotives

I have some questions - On the Jungang Line - can you please tell me the names of the stations after Jecheon km 149.3 and before Danyang km 166.7. There is a freight station (128.278629625482, 37.07481116308958) between Gomyeong and Dodam, where there is a private siding of more than a kilometre in length, leaving the north end of the yard heading north then east through a short tunnel into the premises of a cement factory. What is the name of the Korail freight station, and what is name of the cement works, please?

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It's Samgok station(삼곡역), and the factory is Hyundai Cement Danyang Factory(현대시멘트 단양공장).
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Old January 22nd, 2012, 12:12 AM   #288
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It's Samgok station(삼곡역), and the factory is Hyundai Cement Danyang Factory(현대시멘트 단양공장).
Thank you for the information. The amount of cement traffic on the Korean Railways is astounding!

Here is a photo taken at the next station down the line. A new diesel hydraulic shunting locomotive from Schöma was being tested and commissioned after delivery from Germany a few days earlier. The loads to be shifted by these shunters are generally much larger than is usually handled in Europe. Just look at the size of the rake of wagons being coupled up to the CFL500DCLR4!

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Sungshin Cement Co, Danyang cement plant - Schöma CFL500DCLR4 B/n 5875 B/d _/04 - 1435 mm gauge. Locomotive undergoing commissioning trials at KNR Dodam yard. Hanil Cement factory in background - Sungshin factory is to the south end of the yard, behind photographer.

Can anybody add some more photos of Korean industrial locomotives in operation in this thread, or a new thread, please? It is a very interesting subject.

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Industrial Railway Lines and Locomotives

I am looking to find out the location where this photograph has been taken. It has been photographed from a passing commuter train somewhere in the greater Seoul city area. The rather loose English translation from the Japanese caption comes out as: "swamp station virtue" or "Virtue marsh station" which now turns out to be Deokso (37.588191,127.206857 South Korea, Gyeonggi-do, Namyangju-si, Wabu-eup, Deokso-ri)
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KoreaSth - Industrial diesel & electric locomotives by -PGG-, on Flickr
Asia Cement Manufacturing - Schöma CFL500DCLR3 B/n 5711 B/d _/02 - 1435 mm gauge. Shunts cement traffic at the Asia Cement Manfacturing Deokso cement terminal.

There have been six (6) of these three-axle 565kW diesel hydraulic shunting locomotives delivered to Korea in the last decade. Four (4) of these 66-tonne units have been delivered to the Ssanyong Cement Company: Schöma 5248,5249 in 1992 and 5452,5460 in 1996 and leased from the Miyoung leasing company. Asia Cement Manfacturing has the 5711 illustrated here. One other CFL500DCLR3, Schöma 5253, was delivered in 1992 to an unidentified customer which has leased the locomotive from Korea Industrial Leasing. It is likely that the other units are also leased, rather than being owned outright by the operator. Most of the units have been ordered from Europe through the dealer and engineering consultants: Holtrade.

These industrial locomotives would be working at either of two types of location. The main cement manufacturing works in the provinces where the cement wagons are loaded and originate from; or the destination cement terminal in the major urban centres where the cement wagons are unloaded.

Other photographs of Korean industrial railways and locomotives would be of great interest.

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Last edited by -PGG-; November 21st, 2012 at 01:24 AM. Reason: Found the correct name for the ACM cement terminal at Deokso (Seoul area).
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Trains on Hyundai-Rotem Factory Yard

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images from korail5148
Your top photograph. Hyundai-Rotem #K002 looks to be a diesel hydraulic centre cab shunter. It is very similar to the industrial units produced earlier by Rotem partner Daewoo. Do we know any details about these industrial locomotive classes? Are there any others? Of what size, weight, power etc are these?

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Kojects
http://kojects.com/2012/02/01/fundin...eon-to-sokcho/
Article about HSR from Chuncheon to Sokcho

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Kojects
http://kojects.com/2012/02/01/fundin...eon-to-sokcho/
Article about HSR from Chuncheon to Sokcho
Thanks for the URL, its going straight to my bookmarks
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Old February 4th, 2012, 06:38 PM   #293
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I found a very interesting website done by a Japanese railfan covering Korail as well as TRA. There is a good section detailing a run in 2004 by a switcher in the Uiwang area, on the Gyeongbu Line, complete with maps and pictures as we go along for a ride:

http://www.east-asia-railroad.com/starthp/subpage29.htm
Arriving at Uiwang, we join driver Ryu Gyun and switcher #2118. Today's job involves taking inoperable diesel #7402 to the repair depot, which involves some reversing moves and using a flyover over the main line.

http://www.east-asia-railroad.com/starthp/subpage30.htm
The job finished, #2118 returns to its home depot, Susaek, in Eunpyeong-gu, northwest Seoul. We see action along the Gyeonbu Line, crossing the Han River, through Seoul Station, and proceed on the Gyeongui Line to Susaek. There is a nice diagram of Korail signal indications (3 light type).

Index of website, much more interesting stuff:
http://homepage3.nifty.com/bong-seol-gang/MAPindex.htm
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Old March 8th, 2012, 08:55 AM   #294
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HEMU to debut later this month

After the testing of high speed bogies late last year, I was wondering about the progress of the demo HEMU trainset. Here is the latest news:

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By Kim Tae-gyu

The government plans to take the wraps off its next-generation bullet train, which can run between the country’s two biggest cities of Seoul and Busan in one and a half hours, a substantial reduction from almost three hours today.

The Ministry of Land, Transport and Maritime Affairs (MLTM) said Sunday that it vies to disclose the futuristic train, named HEMU-400X, on March 15 in Changwon, South Gyeongsang Province.

Under the initiative of the MLTM, the Korea Railroad Research Institute and Hyundai Rotem spearheaded the creation of the high-speed train with a maximum speed of 430 kilometers per hour.

``Hyundai Rotem has already finished building the train with six cars to test it at its own facilities in Changwon. We are poised to put the HEMU-400X on the regular rail tracks in the city on March 15,’’ MLTM Director Lee Kwang-hee said.
http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news...23_106224.html
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Very exciting news!! I can't wait to see it in action.
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Nostalgia: Suin Line narrow gauge

A segment from the Japanese TV program Railway Story, about the 762mm gauge Suin Line. Program likely from the early 1990's, at this time the line had service from Suwon to Songdo. *Begins at 3:58:


This line was closed in 1995. A diesel railcar is preserved at the National Railway Museum at Uiwang. It had a Cummins engine and a transmission from Niigata Engineering. It had a top speed of 105km/h (!).

*bonus- a TV commercial for Korean National Railways in 1984:



I think one promotional point is increased speed, as I thought I heard the word "kousoku" (高速), which may be the same as the Japanese meaning "high speed"...

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A segment from the Japanese TV program Railway Story, about the 762mm gauge Suin Line. Program likely from the early 1990's, at this time the line had service from Suwon to Songdo.

This line was closed in 1995. A diesel railcar is preserved at the National Railway Museum at Uiwang. It had a Cummins engine and a transmission from Niigata Engineering. It had a top speed of 105km/h (!).
Thanks for the video. I think it's first time to see the train on Suin line is running on the track for this long. The sound of engine is funny, sounding like bus engine, but I can't believe that it's top speed is 105 km/h. The train looks quite unstable even at the low speed.
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Thanks for the video. I think it's first time to see the train on Suin line is running on the track for this long. The sound of engine is funny, sounding like bus engine, but I can't believe that it's top speed is 105 km/h. The train looks quite unstable even at the low speed.
Yes, that number seems very high, as old diesel railcars in Japan on the 1067mm gauge typically had a top speed only of 95km/h (and rarely reached that speed, I reckon). Perhaps it's the theoretical speed on a dead straight, flat track.

I like the sound of that engine, like a low rpm tractor engine or as you say an old bus engine, with no fancy turbocharger.
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Yeongdong Line switchback

This is quite famous, it was even featured in the Japanese manga series "tetsuko no tabi" (No.42), so many railfans from Japan visit.

At Heungjeon, a coal train, as well as a light engine movement:


At Nahanjeong Station at the bottom of the switchback, a cement train and a passenger train (Mugungwha service?):

*I love the languid beat of Korean railway crossing bells

Cab view on Mugungwha train, descending from Heungjeon to Nahanjeong, and then onto the main line:


Apparently this switchback will be replaced by a (boring) tunnel this year. Ruready, do you know the exact date of the closure of this portion? If it's in the autumn, I may just visit this summer holiday...
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Apparently this switchback will be replaced by a (boring) tunnel this year. Ruready, do you know the exact date of the closure of this portion? If it's in the autumn, I may just visit this summer holiday...
According to several news media ,the switchback section will be closed in June. (source)
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