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Old August 20th, 2009, 03:12 AM   #1
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New railway to link Can Tho, HCM City

The Ministry of Transport has assigned the Viet Nam Railway Bureau to implement a US$4 billion railroad project connecting HCM City to the Mekong Delta city of Can Tho. Nguyen Bui Nam, head of the bureau’s Planning and Investment Department, said the railroad was designed by the Transport Engineering Design Joint-Stoct Incorporated South (TEDI South) with assistance from South Korea’s ChungSuk consultanting firm. A feasibility study is being carried out to choose the best of three options to build the railroad in the earliest possible time. The route, estimated to be around 150km in length, will start at either Thu Thiem or Hoa Hung railway stations in HCM City and end in one of the three following districts in Can Tho City : Cai Rang, Binh Thuy or O Mon. Travel time on this trip is expected to be between 30 and 45 minutes. Currently, buses take around five hours to travel between the two cities, including waiting time at the Can Tho Ferry Station. The railroad would service trains travelling at up to 350 kilometers per hour, Nam said. The new railroad is part of a plan to develop multiple links between HCM City and the economic hub in the Mekong Delta, including roads and waterways.
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$4billions for 150km of railway? ma O_O
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Old August 21st, 2009, 04:23 PM   #4
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Old August 22nd, 2009, 12:36 PM   #5
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Đúng thế, có 150km mà đến 4 tỉ usd. Mắc quá. Dân ở Cần Thơ cũng không giàu có mấy, đầu tư vào th́ không biết khi nào mới lấy lại vốn. Thà xây đường cao tốc 10 làn từ đây đến đó c̣n hay hơn.
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Đúng thế, có 150km mà đến 4 tỉ usd. Mắc quá. Dân ở Cần Thơ cũng không giàu có mấy, đầu tư vào th́ không biết khi nào mới lấy lại vốn. Thà xây đường cao tốc 10 làn từ đây đến đó c̣n hay hơn.
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Mắc quá cũng là tụt hậu, thí dụ chi phí để bên A sản xuất 1 cái ô tô là 100 triệu, bên B cũng sản xuất y chang với giá 200 triệu. Bán ra thị trường là 300 triệu. Như vậy bên A có công nghệ tốt hơn mới làm được thế.
Do đó t́m cách nào rẻ chút chứ 4 tỉ usd th́ mắc quá. Sao mắc dữ vậy?
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Old August 22nd, 2009, 02:58 PM   #8
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Nếu có tiền th́ cứ xây hạ tầng. Chỉ sợ đây là cái cớ để các bác lănh đạo vay nợ rồi bắt dân đen è đầu ra mà trả nợ. Nhưng thôi, ít ra có dự án mà có tính tương lai th́ tuy tham nhũng vẫn c̣n tốt hơn là chả nghĩ ra dc được cái hướng đi nào.
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Old August 22nd, 2009, 03:12 PM   #9
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Cái ǵ cũng có mặt lợi mặt hại của nó cả.
Dự án Railway này như 1 con dao hai lưỡi vậy
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4 billions USD. Are they joking??? In France, 1 km for TGV cost 15,1 millions USD. multiply for 150 is about 2,3 billions. But the manufactor is a korean company. It should be cheaper??? Or the geology in Mekong delta is not stable and will it make a lot of trouble during building this route???

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_speed_rail (part technology)

Once more, 30 - 45 min for a journey long 150km. That means, the speed is 200 - 300 km/h. Unbelievable.
Compare to aviation or highway, railway can transport higher capacity, save time and more economy. For passenger, travelling with rail is more comfortable, cheaper and really flexilble.
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Hah! Nothing is impossible with Viet Nam. With 4 Billions USD, we can make everything become easy.
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Well, I guess they have to import many equipments unlike France. Plus, they better account for corruption in there (kinda unavoidable) so that the project can be done at higher standard. Feed them so they can do a good job
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Well, I guess they have to import many equipments unlike France. Plus, they better account for corruption in there (kinda unavoidable) so that the project can be done at higher standard. Feed them so they can do a good job
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Đi xe lửa mắc ngang đi máy bay, thời gian lại chậm hơn. Tại sao người ta xây đường ray làm ǵ?
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Đi xe lửa mắc ngang đi máy bay, thời gian lại chậm hơn. Tại sao người ta xây đường ray làm ǵ?
cai nay thi con tuy.
Di xe lua co nhieu loi the hon may bay:
- Cho ngoi thoai mai hon, khoang cach giua cac hang ghe rong hon, nga ghe ra sau nhieu hon, mang nhieu hanh ly hon, gia ve tuong doi re hon, cac dich vu trong xe lua cung tot hon, it anh huong den suc khoe hon. So luot di va den nhieu hon, giup hanh khach de dang chon chuyen.

- Thoi gian cho tong hanh trinh co the ngan hon so voi di may bay. Dien hinh nhat la bay tu HCMC ra Nha Trang chang han. Thoi gian bay khoang 1 tieng, check in + an ninh o SGN mat it nhat 20 phut, thoi gian lay hanh ly o Cam Ranh + di chuyen tu Cam Ranh vao trung tam Nha Trang chac cung het 2:30. Tinh ra thi tuong duong di tu HCMC ra Nha Trang bang tau sieu toc. Theo uoc tinh thi trong khoang cach tu 200 - 600 km, xe lua sieu toc se chiem uu the vuot troi so voi may bay lan oto.

Neu cac ban co thoi gian thi di nghien cuu mot chut ve Han Quoc, Nhat Ban, Duc, Anh, Phap va Y. Nhung nuoc nay deu co tau sieu toc va cac ban se nhan thay uu diem cua duong sat so voi duong bo va duong ko.
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so when is this likely to be completed by?
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Đi xe lửa mắc ngang đi máy bay, thời gian lại chậm hơn. Tại sao người ta xây đường ray làm ǵ?
Lấy cái giá vé xe lửa hạng nhất, đắt nhất, cao cấp nhất so với giá vé máy bay giá rẻ, bèo nhất, mua vé lâu nhất, chờ đợi nhiều nhất th́ so làm ǵ
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4 billions USD. Are they joking??? In France, 1 km for TGV cost 15,1 millions USD. multiply for 150 is about 2,3 billions. But the manufactor is a korean company. It should be cheaper??? Or the geology in Mekong delta is not stable and will it make a lot of trouble during building this route???

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_speed_rail (part technology)

Once more, 30 - 45 min for a journey long 150km. That means, the speed is 200 - 300 km/h. Unbelievable.
Compare to aviation or highway, railway can transport higher capacity, save time and more economy. For passenger, travelling with rail is more comfortable, cheaper and really flexilble.
Read the article again. It's just about "the railroad was designed by the Transport Engineering Design Joint-Stoct Incorporated South (TEDI South) with assistance from South Korea’s ChungSuk consultanting firm".

And the construction cost of high speed rail depends on how many there're tunelling, elevated tracks etc. Being there many factors that determine the cost, you can't simply put the high speed rail construction cost per km in France into other countries. For example Honam High Speed Line in Korea, which began its construction this year, is 231.2km and is estimated to cost approximately 10 billion dollar.

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Read the article again. It's just about "the railroad was designed by the Transport Engineering Design Joint-Stoct Incorporated South (TEDI South) with assistance from South Korea’s ChungSuk consultanting firm".

And the construction cost of high speed rail depends on how many there're tunelling, elevated tracks etc. Being there many factors that determine the cost, you can't simply put the high speed rail construction cost per km in France into other countries. For example Honam High Speed Line in Korea, which began its construction this year, is 231.2km and is estimated to cost approximately 10 billion dollar.
most of the funds.....will be transfer to officials accounts
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Read the article again. It's just about "the railroad was designed by the Transport Engineering Design Joint-Stoct Incorporated South (TEDI South) with assistance from South Korea’s ChungSuk consultanting firm".

And the construction cost of high speed rail depends on how many there're tunelling, elevated tracks etc. Being there many factors that determine the cost, you can't simply put the high speed rail construction cost per km in France into other countries. For example Honam High Speed Line in Korea, which began its construction this year, is 231.2km and is estimated to cost approximately 10 billion dollar.
I knew it. Hence, I wonder, the price is too high because of the property of mekong delta. The floor is always wet and soft. That means we have to strengthen the floor => more expensive.
I also think that the cost for labour, stuff, material in VN is cheaper than in France. Yeap, in my opinion, slightly expensive. Maybe????
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