Chennai Transportation & Road Projects - Suggestions | Views | Alternates

[Awconlegio]

A few suggestions to improve mass transit experience:
- Ply more low floor buses so that (i) passengers can get in and get out relatively easier, (ii) it gives a more 'modern' feeling to the bus fleet and Chennai
- A portion (say 25%) of buses should be made as feeder buses to MRTS/Metro.Suburban lines. These buses should not run more than 15 km roundtrip and older buses can be used for this purpose. This makes sure there are frequent services to stations and trains also benefit as the number of passengers increase
- Place trash bins in buses and trains at the entrance/exit. A few might still throw trash outside the windows, but over time, people will start using these trash bins. The resultant effect is lesser time and manpower required to clean up bus, trains and the city
- Place trash bins in train and bus stations. The above logic applies here. However, we run the risk of trash bins being stolen from bus stations.
- In trains, have a PA and a LED display which announces the next station. This is helpful for tourists and people who may not know Chennai completely. I think the PA system is already implemented in A/C compartments.
- Just like A/C buses, trains (or a few compartments) need to be air-conditioned and priced aggressively. This will help in getting cars off the roads. These trains will be required around peak timings.

[die4chennai]

Originally Posted by prasanna

sorry though i have been observing a lot in this forum, I am new to posting. So can u help me with what is specific? like "6 lane arcot road, clear encroachments from anna main road"?

Something important that have not struck in the heads of the officials yet;

Something that if done in a small way(with less land aquisition/less money spent) can create a greater +ve impact;

We need to explore google earh/wikimapia like anything and come out with something new and effective.

Example would be like "THE PROPOSED NEW ROAD CONNECTING NEW AVADI ROAD AND MEDAVAKKAM TANK ROAD " through metro water land. Though we folllow a lot about chennai, None of us wud have thought about this idea. It may turn out to be a brilliant project without much money spend and land aquisition(as it is unused govt. land).

To be feasible to convince the authorities, in the beginning it should be small but effective. The most important is to be more specific with proper sattelite imageries/Drawings and a brief description about that solution

[Keeran]

Thanks for the initiative in creating the launching pad. I wish to make some comments and suggestions.

The critical task of the forum is to engage in collective cerebral activity. Direction and purpose need to be given to the development initiatives of the government in TN. The objective is to see through accelerated growth, a level of development in 2020, which may otherwise be visible only by 2030. Expeditious delivery may become the watchword. Towards this end, the forum can evolve its own surveillance mechanism. To engage meaningfully with the institutions of government, the forum has to get its act together. What agenda does it set?

For easy illustration, a project may be selected to serve as a case in point. The IT Corridor. A clear stream ending in mud. An implementational disaster providing the experience for calamity avoidance in future. Phase II of ITC covering a length of 25 km and traversing an area of high investment potential, has to be treated as an altogether new project.

It is presumed that project details are yet in a fluid stage. If so, the parameters may be defined by the forum and cross-fertilised with the thinking of the officials. If not, the forum can go along with what has been done so far and then proceed therefrom.

Phase II need not be symmetrical with Phase I, just because it is an extension of the latter in a linear sense. The number of lanes, width of lanes,median or pavement, FOB, viaducts, drainage and the whole gamut may require reformulation. The shortcomings of phase I have to be overcome.

Once the contract is signed, it is necessary to ensure rectitude in adherence. Deviations are now the rule.They should be eliminated except for compelling technical exigencies. "Think well and decide, it's a disgrace to re-think thereafter"- Kural 467.

In the implementation phase, monitoring will be a crucial obligation of the forum. Under the RTI Act it may be possible to obtain authentic information on salient features, particularly timelines.

A committee of 5 members drawn from the forum can interact with ministers and officials, express both appreciation and concern and apprise the forum on progress. A two-way process with an ebb and flow of information will be most desirable. This will be democracy in action. People's participation proactively practiced.

[sridhar_n]

We all know that the lane discipline / system was lauched in Mount Road with so much of fanfare - but is it being followed?

We should request the Tpt authorities to enforce this strictly.

Now that many of the roads are being widened, can we also suggest that this can be extended to other roads also?

[kannan infratech]

Guys!

Please identify a few particular issues and collect opinions and ideas to improve etc on the same.

General issues which are common to all the roads / transporatation will be a too big a project to concentrate.

Unless we take small steps initially and achieving the goals therein, we will lose the momentum.

All the best

[nsantha2]

Originally Posted by kannan infratech

Guys!

Please identify a few particular issues and collect opinions and ideas to improve etc on the same.

General issues which are common to all the roads / transporatation will be a too big a project to concentrate.

Unless we take small steps initially and achieving the goals therein, we will lose the momentum.

All the best

Hi Kannan Sir,

Could you provide some examples of specific improvements we could suggest and work on? I tried thinking of some, but I really don't know how specific to be. Any direction you provide would be appreciated.

[gvijayan]

I think, we can propose some solutions that might solve traffic problems, with existing infrastructure, to start with. It might include traffic pattern changes etc which can be implemented with no or minimal cost.
If we can set our foot right with such initial steps, we can slowly get into big ones. Its just my opinion!

[robertashok]

I support your arguments, first let us identify the wrong foot which we have placed, rather than creating more problems for our selves,creating more things.

[natarajan1986]

Let us be specific,first we need pedestrian over bridge or subway in the following areas
1)sterling road (already 2 but it is not enough)
2)SIt college
3)mount road(near tarapore towers,metro rail will be underground here)
4)lux corner
members can add to this list

[gvijayan]

Thiruvanmiyur Bus Terminus

Buses coming from Adyar, SRP Tools side turning right into the Thiruvanmiyur Bus Terminus cause a lot of snarl on the Thiruvalluvar Road (West Avenue). It ends up blocking the traffic on both the directions.

Also the MTC buses stop on the side of the road to drop the passengers, and most of the drivers do not take the bus to the edge, and end up stopping in the middle of the road.

I had been thinking about an alternative way for the buses from Adyar to enter the Thiruvanmiyur Terminus like the one below:



But such pattern will bring some new troubles as it must go through couple of residential streets, and overload the Lattice Bridge Road. And the 4th main road blocks heavy vehicle entry at present which will have to be changed. The road also has to be widened. It has room, but is a residential street now.

But, there should be some form of solution to avoid the snarl at the entrance of the bus terminus.

Since the right turn is blocked at the Thiruvanmiyur Junction for the vehicles from Tidel Park, they would still create problems, but majority of the buses are from Adyar side, so such plan could reduce the problem by a great deal.

[kannan infratech]

Originally Posted by gvijayan

Thiruvanmiyur Bus Terminus

Buses coming from Adyar, SRP Tools side turning right into the Thiruvanmiyur Bus Terminus cause a lot of snarl on the Thiruvalluvar Road (West Avenue). It ends up blocking the traffic on both the directions.

Also the MTC buses stop on the side of the road to drop the passengers, and most of the drivers do not take the bus to the edge, and end up stopping in the middle of the road.

I had been thinking about an alternative way for the buses from Adyar to enter the Thiruvanmiyur Terminus like the one below:



But such pattern will bring some new troubles as it must go through couple of residential streets, and overload the Lattice Bridge Road. And the 4th main road blocks heavy vehicle entry at present which will have to be changed. The road also has to be widened. It has room, but is a residential street now.

But, there should be some form of solution to avoid the snarl at the entrance of the bus terminus.

Since the right turn is blocked at the Thiruvanmiyur Junction for the vehicles from Tidel Park, they would still create problems, but majority of the buses are from Adyar side, so such plan could reduce the problem by a great deal.

My Suggestion:

Make the stretch between the ECR West Avenue corner to the next T Junction on West Avenue as One Way. Buses from LB Road side should take the right side of the median, whereas other vehicles proceeding to EXR or Thiruvanmiyur / Besant Nagar will take the left side of the median.

Vehicles coming from ECR to LB Road can take the road opp Marundeeswarar temple and at the end of the road, turn right to reach the west Avenue T Junction and then take left on the West Avenue to reach the LB Road Thiruvanmiyur Jn. or take the small residential road through (Thiruvalluvar Nagar???) to the LB Road.

I think that the Police is already trying this on a few days.

[Anniyan]

My suggestion: Please remove the temple in the ECR road at Tiruvanmiyur. The temple is in the middle of carriageway like a central island lol

[kannan infratech]

Originally Posted by Anniyan

My suggestion: Please remove the temple in the ECR road at Tiruvanmiyur. The temple is in the middle of carriageway like a central island lol

The temple is more than 1000 years old (VALMIKI Munivar) it seems and is under ASI Care !!!!????.

Valmiki established the Marundeeswarar temple also, it seems.

They can also establish a Bus Terminus near Thiruvanmiyur MRTS Station and use the current terminus as Depot for repair and night time parking.

[Anniyan]

Originally Posted by kannan infratech

The temple is more than 1000 years old (VALMIKI Munivar) it seems and is under ASI Care !!!!????.

Valmiki established the Marundeeswarar temple also, it seems.

I see, I never knew the history behind this. But I am sure it wont be under ASI.

[Anniyan]

What about the trees in the carriageway in SP road, from AU to Raj Bhavan? Have they removed them?

[natarajan1986]

Originally Posted by Anniyan

My suggestion: Please remove the temple in the ECR road at Tiruvanmiyur. The temple is in the middle of carriageway like a central island lol

please dont hijack this thread with this kinda comment as it will drag to pages.dont think temple encroached road but road has encroached temple land for laying roads(similar to madhya kailash as everyone thinks in future that temple is in middle of the road but the truth is land was donated by temple to lay road)

[Anniyan]

Originally Posted by natarajan1986

please dont hijack this thread with this kinda comment as it will drag to pages.

Is this not relevant to this topic?

The temple is in the middle of the road causing serious danger.

I am 100% sure it is not under ASI. If it was under ASI, they wouldnt have allowed the road to pass through the temple at all.

[Arul Murugan]

The temple is never a problem for the traffic pile up there in Thiruvanmiyur.

Actually road should be demolished, not the temple. Temple was standing there for long years, but road only encroached the temple.

As a resident of Thiruvanmiyur I can list the main problem in that area regarding transportation.

1. MTC bus terminus location.

All the MTC buses coming from Signal towards terminus blocks the free flow of traffic to ECR. The buses from ECR side to signal blocks the MTC buses coming out of MTC terminus.

2. Share Autos and Autos

The share autos takes their one lane to block the MTC buses in both sides exactly near the terminus.

3. Pedestrians.

Large volume of pedestrians cross the signals, but so far no news about subway or FOB.

If MTC bus terminus entry and exist is planned properly without affecting the traffic flow, 50% of problems will be solved for Thiruvanmiyur traffic.

The 5 curse of Thiruvanmiyur during peak hours is

1. MTC terminus
2. MRTS station
3. Thiruvanmiyur signal
4. Tidel Signal
5. LB road

[natarajan1986]

temple was established before many centuries as said by kannan sir so road has encroached the temple land(whether it is controlled by asi or not is not the issue) so its unfair to misuse the tolerant mindset as no one will give land to lay road EX: madhya kailash temple and just can you expect this in thousand lights junction?) or in kuthchery road junction meeting sea where it is narrow causing hardship to commuters?

[Arul Murugan]

Dear Members,

Here is one of my suggestion for solving traffic congestion or pile up near the Thiruvanmiyur depot/ MTC terminus. We can make the bus terminus stretch as one way. We can achieve free flow of traffic for sure.

1. The MTC buses coming from ECR can very well take this path with new bus stop can be established near end of S.Avenue road.

2. MTC buses leaving the Thiruvanmiyur terminus bound for signal can either use the exiting route itself.


Vijayan, I am not sure whether you have given these suggestions in your post, i cannot see your pics.