FJORDCITY | Operaens Omgivelser (Munch Museum and Deichman Library) - Page 10

Galro · May 31st, 2011, 08:18 PM

That sucks!

marshol · May 31st, 2011, 08:48 PM

Not for the public? Only the staff? That sucks indeed. We'll take the gondola instead though.

Ingenioren · May 31st, 2011, 09:08 PM

Yes, only the gondola building will have a public rooftop. +Skybar in Munch.

Galro · June 1st, 2011, 05:45 PM

So the gondola will be part of the Munch Museum developments? Don't know if I am the only one, but I feel it then would be more natural to have one tread dedicated to Munch and Ekeberg Sculpture park and rather merge the rest of the stuff from this tread into the fjorcity tread. Thoughts?

***Þróndeimr*** · June 1st, 2011, 05:59 PM

why merge this thread to the fjordcity thread when this thread is one of the most active threads around?

Galro · June 1st, 2011, 06:01 PM

But don't most of that activity come from the munch museum? I think the museums is a completely different project than the commercial quarters around the opera, and it is also big and important enough to deserves it's own tread.

mjoks007 · June 1st, 2011, 06:05 PM

Well, the quarters behind Munch was part of the competition, which Yimby made a statement about.

Galro · June 1st, 2011, 06:07 PM

Not all of them, and this tread covers them all + the new culture museum (or something) and the new library.

***Þróndeimr*** · June 1st, 2011, 06:12 PM

read the first post in the thread. Everything in this thread is the same project, Hav Eiendoms "Operaens Omgivelser", a masterplan for this site, first a competition for the entire area, then competitions for the single projects (Munch Museum, Deichman Library, and last the B1 to B4 plots.

Originally this thread was all about the Munch Museum, but as this thread fell dead, and the Big Fjordcity thread had way too much activity i made this thread cover all of Operaens Omgivelser, since this is a very important project.

Galro · June 1st, 2011, 06:16 PM

Well, the name of the tread mentioned two projects and I believe we have discussed the deign/planing of the quarters closest to Middelalderparken here too. My stance is simply that I would like to have a clean project tread where we can appreciate the developments through time now that we know the Museum will get built, while the current tread feels more like we have stashed all the projects we didn't find place for elsewhere.

muster · June 1st, 2011, 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Galro

now that we know the Museum will get built

Actually we don't know that yet. AP will try to stop it after the election..

IceCheese · June 2nd, 2011, 01:23 AM

Galro: The gondola-stop in Bjørvika is part of the Operaens omgivelser regulation plan. I don't think it belongs more in either fjordcity or Oslo development, but since most new stuff is covered here, I suopprt keeping it here.

Quote:

Originally Posted by muster

Actually we don't know that yet. AP will try to stop it after the election..

Lol, with that Rieber-Mohn-chick who basicly could've been recruted directly from central-FRP?! Ap will be even more marginilized after September. Turning an election for the whole city with responsobility for schools, elderly care and transportation into a debate about a freaking museum is a big

, and I think they will lose voters on it.

Until we make an elections debate or anything, this is as far as I'll go into politics here on SSC, but I don't think the museum is in danger honestly.

Galro · June 2nd, 2011, 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IceCheese

Galro: The gondola-stop in Bjørvika is part of the Operaens omgivelser regulation plan. I don't think it belongs more in either fjordcity or Oslo development, but since most new stuff is covered here, I suopprt keeping it here.
.

Actually, if you see back through my posts on this page then you will see that I advocated moving the gondola project from other treads into this one, as I don't think it is covered here. And if it is covered here then it deserves a own overview post on the first page.

I also said that I would prefer to split up the tread into one covering Munch+gondola and covering Deichman + the rest, but I'm seem to be the only of this opinion so I guess it's better to keep that way it is now.

muster · June 2nd, 2011, 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IceCheese

but I don't think the museum is in danger honestly.

I hope you're right about that.

Galro · June 2nd, 2011, 07:52 PM

Do anyone know what they will do with Sukkerbiten/Snelda? I've tried searching for some info with no luck so far. Will there be built anything there? And if yes, what?

IceCheese · June 2nd, 2011, 08:03 PM

The politicians haven't decided yet, and won't do until August.

Galro · June 2nd, 2011, 08:06 PM

Ok, but Hav eiendom (they are the owners, right?) haven't mentioned anything?`Would be great with something along the lines of Bølgen at Aker Brygge there.

Galro · June 9th, 2011, 11:32 PM

I don' think we have seen this render before:

From Mir: http://mir.no/

Mulefisk · June 10th, 2011, 11:00 AM

I don't think we have either, and it's absolutely beautiful.

I'm glad they kept the Much Museum, it's absolutely necessary to make a nice skyline.

Galro · June 10th, 2011, 11:28 PM

Yes, I have actually started to like it. I think it will turn out nice now that we are rid of the lamells. I'm also looking forward to see if and what gets built at Sukkerbiten.

... And we need more highrises/scrapers at Vaterland. It looks awkward with the big "hole" between Barcode and Postgiro/Plaza in the skyline.

May 31st, 2011, 08:18 PM	#181
Galro Registered User Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 7,036 Likes (Received): 438	That sucks! __________________ @ Flickr

May 31st, 2011, 09:08 PM	#183
Ingenioren Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Oslo Posts: 4,996 Likes (Received): 19	Yes, only the gondola building will have a public rooftop. +Skybar in Munch. __________________ I want to see some construction!

June 1st, 2011, 05:45 PM	#184
Galro Registered User Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 7,036 Likes (Received): 438	So the gondola will be part of the Munch Museum developments? Don't know if I am the only one, but I feel it then would be more natural to have one tread dedicated to Munch and Ekeberg Sculpture park and rather merge the rest of the stuff from this tread into the fjorcity tread. Thoughts? __________________ @ Flickr

June 1st, 2011, 06:01 PM	#186
Galro Registered User Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 7,036 Likes (Received): 438	But don't most of that activity come from the munch museum? I think the museums is a completely different project than the commercial quarters around the opera, and it is also big and important enough to deserves it's own tread. __________________ @ Flickr

June 1st, 2011, 06:05 PM	#187
mjoks007 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Tønsberg, Norway Posts: 1,946 Likes (Received): 27	Well, the quarters behind Munch was part of the competition, which Yimby made a statement about. __________________ Tønsberg - Capital of Vestfold.

May 31st, 2011, 08:48 PM	#182
marshol Landsc. Architect Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Oslo Posts: 1,693 Likes (Received): 35	Not for the public? Only the staff? That sucks indeed. We'll take the gondola instead though.

June 1st, 2011, 05:59 PM	#185
*Þróndeimr* Adventurous! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Trondheim Posts: 11,265 Likes (Received): 268	why merge this thread to the fjordcity thread when this thread is one of the most active threads around?

June 1st, 2011, 06:07 PM	#188
Galro Registered User Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 7,036 Likes (Received): 438	Not all of them, and this tread covers them all + the new culture museum (or something) and the new library. __________________ @ Flickr

June 1st, 2011, 06:12 PM	#189
*Þróndeimr* Adventurous! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Trondheim Posts: 11,265 Likes (Received): 268	read the first post in the thread. Everything in this thread is the same project, Hav Eiendoms "Operaens Omgivelser", a masterplan for this site, first a competition for the entire area, then competitions for the single projects (Munch Museum, Deichman Library, and last the B1 to B4 plots. Originally this thread was all about the Munch Museum, but as this thread fell dead, and the Big Fjordcity thread had way too much activity i made this thread cover all of Operaens Omgivelser, since this is a very important project.

June 1st, 2011, 06:16 PM	#190
Galro Registered User Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 7,036 Likes (Received): 438	Well, the name of the tread mentioned two projects and I believe we have discussed the deign/planing of the quarters closest to Middelalderparken here too. My stance is simply that I would like to have a clean project tread where we can appreciate the developments through time now that we know the Museum will get built, while the current tread feels more like we have stashed all the projects we didn't find place for elsewhere. __________________ @ Flickr Last edited by Galro; June 1st, 2011 at 06:52 PM.

June 2nd, 2011, 07:52 PM	#195
Galro Registered User Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 7,036 Likes (Received): 438	Do anyone know what they will do with Sukkerbiten/Snelda? I've tried searching for some info with no luck so far. Will there be built anything there? And if yes, what? __________________ @ Flickr

June 2nd, 2011, 08:03 PM	#196
IceCheese Scandi-friendly Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: oslo.no Posts: 5,977 Likes (Received): 88	The politicians haven't decided yet, and won't do until August. __________________ Oslo/Copenhagen - The True Capital of Scandinavia. Take a look at my Photo Mess!

June 2nd, 2011, 08:06 PM	#197
Galro Registered User Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 7,036 Likes (Received): 438	Ok, but Hav eiendom (they are the owners, right?) haven't mentioned anything?`Would be great with something along the lines of Bølgen at Aker Brygge there. __________________ @ Flickr

June 9th, 2011, 11:32 PM	#198
Galro Registered User Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 7,036 Likes (Received): 438	I don' think we have seen this render before: From Mir: http://mir.no/ __________________ @ Flickr

June 10th, 2011, 11:00 AM	#199
Mulefisk Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Oslo/Sheffield Posts: 791 Likes (Received): 13	I don't think we have either, and it's absolutely beautiful. I'm glad they kept the Much Museum, it's absolutely necessary to make a nice skyline. __________________ Proud citizen of Sandvika, The city of railwaybridges, highways and malls! Our motto is: "If you can see the sun, you are probably not in Sandvika!"

June 10th, 2011, 11:28 PM	#200
Galro Registered User Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 7,036 Likes (Received): 438	Yes, I have actually started to like it. I think it will turn out nice now that we are rid of the lamells. I'm also looking forward to see if and what gets built at Sukkerbiten. ... And we need more highrises/scrapers at Vaterland. It looks awkward with the big "hole" between Barcode and Postgiro/Plaza in the skyline. __________________ @ Flickr

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