FJORDCITY | Operaens Omgivelser (Munch Museum and Deichman Library)

[Mulefisk]

I was being sarcastic.

Then problem is that the only reason they're going with this is because of visibility. It would be much better for the urban space if they were enclosed blocks.

I don't understand why you mention vika, this is the exact same building structure as they have there, and it doesn't work there either.

[Hurban]

These renders confirm my fear. I fear that this building will disrupt / dominate most if the nice view from opera taket towards Ekeberg. It will be brutally close. It is a shame since this view today is very pleasant and most likely in the future we will only be staring into this 14 fl block.. Why not build it closer to KLP & Visma?

It must be said that like the building very much.

[muster]

Oslo looks like it was planned by a drunken bureaucrat. If you don't have any creativity or sense of finesse, at least you should do it the safe boring way like the swedes. We fail in both.

(I like Barcode though, but there should be more diversity in hight... again the drunken bureaucrat.)

[IceCheese]

Originally Posted by Hurban

These renders confirm my fear. I fear that this building will disrupt / dominate most if the nice view from opera taket towards Ekeberg. It will be brutally close. It is a shame since this view today is very pleasant and most likely in the future we will only be staring into this 14 fl block.. Why not build it closer to KLP & Visma?

It must be said that like the building very much.

Why in hell should the opera be a viewpoint of the city?! That was not the intention at all. It is an urban space, and it happens to offer some view towards the waterfront to the west, where the building is angled. If you're so keen looking at Ekeberg, please take the gondola.

[essenze]

I don't like it either. Lamell structure is there for the purpose of visibility through it only. I think it always will be a "commie block" style structure..

[joamox]

So Im guessing from most of the comments above that none of you like barcode?

[Þróndeimr]

Even the earliest pre-designs of Barcode showed a lot more diversity in design and architecture than this... (what lack at Barcode is different heights of the buildings)

[joamox]

hmm? Your memory seems to be a bit short, dont think I dont remember you guys howling about boring boxes back then too, you know who you are. The Munch museum is actually one of my favourite projects right now.

[Þróndeimr]

Originally Posted by joamox

hmm? Your memory seems to be a bit short, dont think I dont remember you guys howling about boring boxes back then too, you know who you are. The Munch museum is actually one of my favourite projects right now.

The Munch museum is fine by me (as long as they don't cut it in half...), though the lamellblokker looks really dull, but as stated earlier, i am still waiting for individual designs that makes each building unique and creates much more diversity among them.

First design of Barcode looked like this (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...de03model1.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...de03model2.jpg), while the second design showed a taller building on 100m+. We certainly complained when they reduced the taller buildings down to 67m, and the lower ones up to 63m/64m. The first design also showed their intention of making each building unique, thats why they won the competition. That is why many here is negative to the lamellblokker solution. If the final designs of each turned out to be as diverse as Barcode most will change their views.

[mjoks007]

Compering barcode to this lamelle blocks is like compering apples to oranges.
IMO, this lamelle blocks is whats destroying the Munch museum itself. Its like the lamelle blocks and Munch museum is ONE complex connected to each other. And the visibility argument must be one of the most stupid arguments ever.

[joamox]

Originally Posted by mjoks007

Compering barcode to this lamelle blocks is like compering apples to oranges.
IMO, this lamelle blocks is whats destroying the Munch museum itself. Its like the lamelle blocks and Munch museum is ONE complex connected to each other. And the visibility argument must be one of the most stupid arguments ever.

well, they are all blocks arent they, not a kvartal structure. Care to explain to me why the PwC building is non-comparable to the blocks we saw in that render?

[Mulefisk]

Well, there's less space between the barcode buildings then there are between these. I think blocks would have been better for barcode as well, but since they are so close together it's not that big a deal.

These buildings however are so far apart that they will create too much of a suburban feel for an area that should be urban. And the reason for i them being like this has nothing to do with urban space, it's because:

1. It will let you see more stuff from the roof of the opera.

2. It will let you see the boring side of the opera from Kongsbakken.

3. It will give the offices more light and thus make the rent higher.

And in the absolute centre of Oslo, those are not the things that should be in focus.

[starkwell]

Originally Posted by Mr. Love Architectur

This is such a superamazing picture. Cant wait for it to look exactly like this.

speed it up gents!

that is gross - it looks like one of those sketches from the 60s or 70s advertising cities of the future that now look dirty and overbearing.

the beauty of barcode that is lacking here is variety.

like so many developments we discuss here, with these locations, it is such a good chance to create something amazing.

i guess the designs will change, but volume and size-wise, this is dull

[Ingenioren]

Now one must always be careful of copying toilets from the side of the road when designing a new landmark, but don't you think Lambda would look alot nicer if it had another "knekk" like this one:

[Ingenioren]

The proposal for "Offentlig ettersyn" is ready:

http://web102881.pbe.oslo.kommune.no...seno=200911541

Amoung other things there are some renders from the Karré-alternative. It also looks like there will not be a bridge to Sørengutstikker...

[mjoks007]

Much-museet kan bli skrinlagt.

"- Dersom Riksantikvarens skisserte endringer tas til følge, blir neppe Munch-museet realisert, sier Gunnar Leganger, sjef for etaten for kulturbyggene i Bjørvika."

[IceCheese]

Yippy!!!

[marshol]

I'll be happy if the building is canceled, but I hope they will build something else there that will be attractive and nice and not just a grey abandoned spot.

[mjoks007]

Aquarium gogo! Just start a new competition already

Should rather concentrate expanding the existing museum at Tøyen and more important, make the surrounding up there more inviting.

[Ingenioren]

No news here, we knew this already when the winner was announced. Let's see what happends in MD. Solheim keeps saying we need to build tall buildings yet MD has a long story of shooting down every highrise at their table...