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Old May 10th, 2005, 05:33 AM   #21
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I noticed mr X copied and pasted his exact same post in the Vancouver transit thread (or maybe the other way around) so I might as well do the same

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and of course, there's always this:





If we're to have LRT for RAV, we might as well keep the 98 B-Line instead.
By your logic, we should not allow buses and cars in roads as well...





And why do these cities shown in this thread uses trams if they are so dangerous?

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...63#post4072063

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The RAV line is a huge waste of money. I support the idea idea of the RAV but not at 1.74 billion. Why not LRT for half that price and they could still do the Coquitlam line with the money saved and start on the SkyTrain west ext to Granville where ridership will be much higher and commercial and urban density is higher as well.
Why???........ because its so nice for the politicans to be able to cut a ribbon on a SkyTrain/subway line.
!.74 billion for 80,000 pass a day is highway robbery.
I agree with ssiguy2 and it is highway robbery indeed. Note that the only reason why RAV is expensive is because creme de la creme doesn't want to see a cheaper elevated system (aka Sky-train...a train high up in the sky) at their side of Main Street.
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Old May 10th, 2005, 05:47 AM   #22
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The CTrain runs entirely on its own track, whether it be down highway medians, thru tunnels, existing raillines of newly created ROW. The only place it comes incontact with any vehicular traffic is downtown and it uses its own transit only Ave.
It is totally on its own rail only route.
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Old May 10th, 2005, 11:36 AM   #23
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How high are the tracks in Vancouver and in Calgary? Does anyone have pictures?
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Old May 10th, 2005, 08:56 PM   #24
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Tracks are roughly street level wherever you go in Calgary...

Downtown; 7th Ave


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Old May 11th, 2005, 02:27 AM   #25
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Vancouver's SkyTrain is completly elevated atleast 2 storeys above street-level except in Downtown Vancouver and Newest where ther are tunnels.
This is part of the reason it is expensive.
The new RAV line will be one third underground and the tunnelling negates the entire benefite of SkyTrain.................no tunnelling or land aqusition costs.
1.75 billion for 80,000 pass/day.........obscene.
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Old May 12th, 2005, 07:09 AM   #26
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One thing I love about the CTrain is that they don't have all that ugly advertising on the outside of the trains. They make it look so messy.
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Old May 12th, 2005, 07:14 AM   #27
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I definitely agree with ssiguy2 of all the different types of trains I have been on in N.A and Europe I think Calgary has one of the best trains, seldom there is any graffiti and trains are always clean. Especially since I ride the ctrain twice a day to get to school.
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Old May 12th, 2005, 07:22 AM   #28
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Some SkyTrain cars in Vancouver are just plasstered on them including the windows. They look messy and less bright inside the car. You feel you are on an advertising board......very unpleasant.
The CTrains lack of advertising look clean and crisp....like Calgary itself.
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Old May 17th, 2005, 05:48 AM   #29
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The feds and Alberta have just signed a $477,000,000 infastructure deal and some will be going towards Edmonton and Calgary LRT.
Looks like Calgary will be again pushing up completion dates on their new lines.
It already has a good transit system but when all the CTrain lines are done within 20 years Calgary will have a RapidTransit system to die for.
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Old June 2nd, 2005, 04:48 AM   #30
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Old June 2nd, 2005, 05:03 AM   #31
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Vancouver's SkyTrain is completly elevated except in downtown Vancouver and a small part of NewWestminster where the lines are subways.
The subways are only about 3km of the entire 49km lines.
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Old June 2nd, 2005, 12:40 PM   #32
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For Christ sake, will you lay off the Skytrain.

CTrain is a light rail...Skytrain is an elevated light rail.
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Old June 2nd, 2005, 10:57 PM   #33
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I know.
But SkyTrain has the same ridership but has cost quadruple the price. Calgary got a hell of a lot more bang for the buck and goes to different sections of the city. The SkyTrain only serves a easter section of Vancouver. It doesn't do a lot for city dwellers unlike CTrain.
Also, getting the same ridership for a city less than half the size of Vancouver further acsentuates how excellent a system CTrain is.
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Old June 2nd, 2005, 11:12 PM   #34
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looks way cool, love it....
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Old June 3rd, 2005, 01:43 AM   #35
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For Christ sake, will you lay off the Skytrain.

CTrain is a light rail...Skytrain is an elevated light rail.
someone wanted to know how high the skytrain is.
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Old June 3rd, 2005, 03:51 AM   #36
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I think its about 2 stories up but depends on the area.
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Great news!
Due to Calgary having gobs of money recently given to them by the oil rich Alberta government CTrain expansion plans have been moved up.
The N/W and N/E expansions were to be completed by 2010 but now the N/E will be done by 2007 and N/W by spring 2008.
Calgary Ctrain expansion plans for other extentions and new lines could completed as much as 10years ahead of schedule.

Had the link members.shaw.ca/lrtincalgary ........but...........

this new link is much more up to date and shows these new lines.
www.members.shaw.ca/calgary_transit
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Old March 12th, 2006, 07:48 AM   #38
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Calgary Unveils Future Transit Plans

Futuristic LRT plans include 8th Ave. subway
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11 March 2006
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Officials are to unveil more details of Calgary Transit's long-term plans for the LRT next week, including a possible subway under 8th Avenue.

The futuristic strategy will be looked at Wednesday when transit officials discuss what Calgary's downtown might look like when west, southeast and even north-central transit lines are built to serve the city's burgeoning population.

One of the more intriguing ideas is a subway below 8th Avenue to accommodate busy trains from the south and northwest. The scheme is based on Calgary's projected transit demands when the city's population hits 1.5 million, expected to be in about 25 years.

"When the Calgary population exceeds 1.5 million, the capacity of 7th Avenue, even with the more frequent operations of four-car trains, will be exceeded," says the report, which doesn't include a price. "At this point, an 8th Avenue subway will be required."

Interestingly, the city planned for a subway years ago when it included a tunnel beneath the municipal building, built in the mid-1980s.

However, transit officials stressed Friday nothing is set in stone.

"We need to plan for the future and this is not to say that all or any of this will come to pass," said spokesman Ron Collins.

"We're looking 20 to 30 years out in a lot of cases here and, in terms of the possibility of a subway, we would have to certainly ensure that we've done everything we can to make 7th Avenue as efficient as possible before we would ever consider building a tunnel and going underground."

The report also makes note of two projects many Calgarians hope aren't too far out in the future: the west and southeast LRT lines. The number of homeowners in both regions continues to soar, fuelling the demand for LRT service.

However, Mayor Dave Bronconnier said the city doesn't have the $1 billion-plus needed to build both lines right now.

"We need upgrades to the existing lines . . . and we need upgrades for the stations, which we are working on, and then from there we're out of money," he said, adding the provincial government needs to share more revenues with the city.

"There would have to be new revenue streams that are dedicated to public transit," Bronconnier said.

Ald. Craig Burrows, who represents residents on the west side, said money is the biggest hurdle LRT faced in his area.

However, he hopes that if the federal government continues to share its fuel tax revenues with municipalities, there will be enough funding for the huge project. He'd like the line to be built as far out as 69th Street by 2014.

Ald. Ric McIver, who represents residents in Ward 12, wants to see construction on the southeast line begin within three to five years. The area is projected to be the No. 1 growth corridor for the city in the next 20 years, he said.

"My constituents are anxious to have that LRT," McIver added.
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Good news. I guess when the extra lines are built, they'll need to relieve the pressure off 7th. Why not just have the 8th Ave. trains go above ground to save money though?
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