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***Ashok*** · May 27th, 2008, 01:11 AM

wow, this project looks fantastic.

Skybean · May 27th, 2008, 01:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by isaidso

The latest renders looking promising, but seem to be devoid of a podium like the development across the street from it, Maple Leaf Square:

bravo.

vancouverite/to'er · May 27th, 2008, 02:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by romanamerican

was this a joke? cause it wasn't that funny...
Toronto is a beautiful city, but it is ridiculous to compare it to New York.
No offense, but it's like trying to compare a 10 year old to an adult....

Technically it wouldn't be T.O's answer to Hudson Yards as it's located in Lower Toronto.

romanamerican · May 27th, 2008, 04:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vancouverite/to'er

Technically it wouldn't be T.O's answer to Hudson Yards as it's located in Lower Toronto.

No, you miss my point. They are two cities that are on two distinct levels. you can't compare them. If you say "toronto's answer to Hudson Yard project", it means there are two cities that can be compared. I don't see Toronto's answer to the WTC (4 supertalls) or even midtown, let alone downtown. This doesn't mean this project isn't nice. It just means they are on two different levels, that can't be compared.

Jaborandi · May 27th, 2008, 04:26 AM

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Originally Posted by cruzin4u

"Ice will be designed in a Scandanavian design theme with an iconic green roof canopy element which will wrap around the entire York Centre and provide perhaps the largest green roof ever developed in the City of Toronto".

So there will be a podium with a green roof canopy, which you see in the render.

How green will it be in November, or December, or January, or February, or March? And how green will it be the rest of the year on a steady diet of car exhaust fumes drifting down?

vancouverite/to'er · May 27th, 2008, 04:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by romanamerican

No, you miss my point. They are two cities that are on two distinct levels. you can't compare them. If you say "toronto's answer to Hudson Yard project", it means there are two cities that can be compared. I don't see Toronto's answer to the WTC (4 supertalls) or even midtown, let alone downtown. This doesn't mean this project isn't nice. It just means they are on two different levels, that can't be compared.

Well both projects are near or built over railway lands. This justifies my point however silly it may sound to anyone of superiority. Frankly I could care less if Toronto never got a "supertall" We're aiming for hyper density, not some Dubai spectacle surrounded by surface parking. Besides geographically Toronto is unique in having a CBD, downtown, and midtown like NY despite being 1/3 the size. Can Chicago in spite of it's glamerous collection claim this?? No, in truth it hugs the lake. (i.e)Unlike Bloor in Toronto Chicago's luxury shopping is located in the CBD. Btw 16 York is an example of great urban planning and design.

yyzer · May 27th, 2008, 04:59 AM

Quote:

was this a joke? cause it wasn't that funny...
Toronto is a beautiful city, but it is ridiculous to compare it to New York.
No offense, but it's like trying to compare a 10 year old to an adult....

Relax, Roman...Toronto is a wonderful place, but we all know that the Big Apple is the number 1 alpha city in the number 1 alpha country....no worries..

also, I think that Toronto is more of a teenager than a 10 year old - and it's growing up fast!

***Taller, Better*** · May 27th, 2008, 05:52 AM

Romanamerican, take a pill. No one is threatening New York. You can relax and stop acting so aggressively. You missed the point entirely, so best to just move on.

Jackhammer · May 27th, 2008, 06:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by romanamerican

No, you miss my point. They are two cities that are on two distinct levels. you can't compare them. If you say "toronto's answer to Hudson Yard project", it means there are two cities that can be compared. I don't see Toronto's answer to the WTC (4 supertalls) or even midtown, let alone downtown. This doesn't mean this project isn't nice. It just means they are on two different levels, that can't be compared.

Actually you can compare anything. Contrary to popular belief you can even compare apples and oranges ie(round, fruit, grow on trees). Amazing isn't it ... and I bet you thought they were polar opposites.

There are many similarities between Toronto and New York with scale being the differing factor. In this case, we have new proposals adjacent to former rail lands with glassy towers connected by a canopy. Hudson Yards appears to be a dynamic new space though 16 York looks to be merely to be a great addition to a newly dense area. So I would'nt go so far as to say that it is Toronto's answer to Hudson Yards but we are all prone to bubble over with excitement at a new project which can result in a little verbal diarrhea. I do not think the comment was meant to start a pissing contest.

Incidently, bigger isn't always better. Toronto excels over New York in many ways. If you don't agree with that statement, then you must concede that Dubai owns New York in 5 years.

***Taller, Better*** · May 27th, 2008, 06:40 AM

Hey, I have a better idea! Why don't we stick to the topic and not turn this into a city vs city thing?

yin_yang · May 27th, 2008, 07:22 AM

well...i guess we finished our lesson on subjective logic, so yeah...we can move on.

***Taller, Better*** · May 29th, 2008, 07:48 AM

I'm not sure if this was posted , as my computer is downloading slow tonight, but it is a cool rendering of the project:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ziggy

Like this?

source: http://www.toronto.ca/union_station/...esentation.pdf

isaidso · July 7th, 2008, 09:46 AM

People only familiar with the lake view of Toronto might be surprised to realize how far inland the downtown cluster is. It's not on the water front as it appears in those photos.

Mussoda · July 7th, 2008, 09:51 AM

really it is...

but those new buildings will shield the old CBD on the sight from the lake..IMO..
of course, as far as the new buildings are cool,, it doesn't matter.

isaidso · July 7th, 2008, 09:54 AM

Yes, it will block much of it. The old CBD has run out of space to grow, so it will have to expand here. 7 new towers south of the train tracks. It's really going to increase the footprint of the CBD by quite a bit.

yyzer · September 4th, 2008, 01:10 AM

just a quick update, the condo portion of the project now has a name, "Ice" Condos, -actually pretty appropriate for Canada-, and apparently they have been selling a lot of units through real estate agent and VIP sales events...they have also commenced constructing a sales office for regular customers, as these two pics by CGM at urbantoronto.ca show...so the project is moving forward....

image hosted on flickr

image hosted on flickr

yyzer · October 23rd, 2008, 04:21 AM

some new renderings, posted by fad225 at urbantoronto.ca....pretty cheesy design!..these are officially called "Ice" condos, btw...mods, the header could be changed....I also believe they have begun pre-sales of at least one tower....hopefully they will go ahead inspite of the global situation...

ElVoltageDR · October 23rd, 2008, 04:49 AM

Swiss cheesy to be exact

Not bad, the top is interesting, I'd love to see how that would look in real life.

isaidso · October 23rd, 2008, 05:24 AM

Yes, it is very cheesy. Nice one yyzer!

monkeyronin · October 23rd, 2008, 05:33 AM

The podium is pretty weak. it'll look especially so being across the street from Telus and MLS.

May 27th, 2008, 01:11 AM	#21
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May 27th, 2008, 05:52 AM	#28
*Taller, Better* Administrator Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Toronto Posts: 52,758 Likes (Received): 281	Romanamerican, take a pill. No one is threatening New York. You can relax and stop acting so aggressively. You missed the point entirely, so best to just move on. __________________ Please visit my photoblog! Montréal \| Mexico \| Niagara-on-the-Lake \| Brazil \| Hamilton aka "The Hammer"! "Fine words butter no parsnips"-17th Century proverb.

May 27th, 2008, 06:40 AM	#30
*Taller, Better* Administrator Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Toronto Posts: 52,758 Likes (Received): 281	Hey, I have a better idea! Why don't we stick to the topic and not turn this into a city vs city thing? __________________ Please visit my photoblog! Montréal \| Mexico \| Niagara-on-the-Lake \| Brazil \| Hamilton aka "The Hammer"! "Fine words butter no parsnips"-17th Century proverb.

July 7th, 2008, 09:51 AM	#34
Mussoda Soul_Seoul Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Seoul Posts: 3,645 Likes (Received): 163	really it is... but those new buildings will shield the old CBD on the sight from the lake..IMO.. of course, as far as the new buildings are cool,, it doesn't matter. __________________ - Korea - one photo per post, Seoul City Life, - Korean New Architectures, Korean Style (Han Style), Korean Landscapes,

October 23rd, 2008, 05:24 AM	#39
isaidso the new republic Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: The United Provinces of America Posts: 18,589 Likes (Received): 326	Yes, it is very cheesy. Nice one yyzer! __________________ World's 1st Baseball Game: June 4th, 1838, Beachville, Ontario, Canada North America's Oldest Pro Football Teams: Toronto Argonauts (1873) and Hamilton Tiger Cats (1869) I started my first photo thread documenting a recent trip to Halifax, Nova Scotia. Have a peek: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=724898

May 27th, 2008, 07:22 AM	#31
yin_yang Registered User Join Date: May 2006 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,556 Likes (Received): 3	well...i guess we finished our lesson on subjective logic, so yeah...we can move on.

July 7th, 2008, 09:46 AM	#33
isaidso the new republic Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: The United Provinces of America Posts: 18,589 Likes (Received): 326	People only familiar with the lake view of Toronto might be surprised to realize how far inland the downtown cluster is. It's not on the water front as it appears in those photos.

July 7th, 2008, 09:54 AM	#35
isaidso the new republic Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: The United Provinces of America Posts: 18,589 Likes (Received): 326	Yes, it will block much of it. The old CBD has run out of space to grow, so it will have to expand here. 7 new towers south of the train tracks. It's really going to increase the footprint of the CBD by quite a bit.

September 4th, 2008, 01:10 AM	#36
yyzer Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Mississauga Posts: 1,056 Likes (Received): 1	just a quick update, the condo portion of the project now has a name, "Ice" Condos, -actually pretty appropriate for Canada-, and apparently they have been selling a lot of units through real estate agent and VIP sales events...they have also commenced constructing a sales office for regular customers, as these two pics by CGM at urbantoronto.ca show...so the project is moving forward.... image hosted on flickr image hosted on flickr

October 23rd, 2008, 04:21 AM	#37
yyzer Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Mississauga Posts: 1,056 Likes (Received): 1	some new renderings, posted by fad225 at urbantoronto.ca....pretty cheesy design!..these are officially called "Ice" condos, btw...mods, the header could be changed....I also believe they have begun pre-sales of at least one tower....hopefully they will go ahead inspite of the global situation...

October 23rd, 2008, 04:49 AM	#38
ElVoltageDR Happy to be here Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: NYC Posts: 2,647 Likes (Received): 13	Swiss cheesy to be exact Not bad, the top is interesting, I'd love to see how that would look in real life.

October 23rd, 2008, 05:33 AM	#40
monkeyronin Mơמkƹ͛ƴ∆ґơɲiɲ Join Date: May 2006 Location: London Posts: 4,461 Likes (Received): 44	The podium is pretty weak. it'll look especially so being across the street from Telus and MLS.

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