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Old July 28th, 2012, 05:07 PM   #4001
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I agree, it will look awful. Imagine sticking a whopping sign on the top of Selfridges.
Very funny.

This is Birmingham New Street Station. Sticking a huge Pallasades sign on top will just look stupied in my opinion.

Or were you actually agreeing with me?

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Old July 28th, 2012, 06:04 PM   #4002
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I like the signage, reminds me of Fort Dunlop, and Pallasades has to be advertised somehow, would you rather them plonk pink palasades text on the cladding itself?
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Old July 28th, 2012, 06:13 PM   #4003
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agree with Reiss, Think it'll look good being lit up pink reflecting on the cladding at night too
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Old July 28th, 2012, 06:38 PM   #4004
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a. excuse me where is New Street Station?

b. See that building quite clearly labeled Pavillions Pallasades, that one.

a. Sir, that is a little confusing.

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Old July 28th, 2012, 07:48 PM   #4005
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See the huge shiney thing? It's in there.
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Old July 28th, 2012, 07:54 PM   #4006
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Shock horror, a Pallasades sign on top of the Pallasades, whatever will they think of next?

The shopping centre is on top of the station, and furthermore it's the shopping centre that's technically being clad not the station anyway.

I'd have prefered "Pallasades at New Street", or "New Street Station & Shopping Centre" but probably wouldn't have fit. Or, even, "Pallasades" with the BR symbol next to it. But come on, a shopping centre pointing attention to itself is hardly uncalled for.

New Street is already advertised with the big electronic displays; if a tourist can't get to that point from the hundreds of fingerposts over Brum they're either blind or silly.
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Old July 28th, 2012, 08:16 PM   #4007
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Still hoping hammerson take over the retail side of new st and market it all as one big complex under the bullring name, would be better for marketing and better for the city when people interested in visiting look up shopping in my opinion...
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Old July 28th, 2012, 09:33 PM   #4008
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It's been pointed out by DM that my language has been rather inappropriate of late.

I've amended posts and apologise for any offence.

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Old July 28th, 2012, 10:48 PM   #4009
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If they really wanted to confuse people, they could revert to its original name: Birmingham Shopping Centre.
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Old July 29th, 2012, 12:55 AM   #4010
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Old July 30th, 2012, 11:54 AM   #4011
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The problem with erecting large external signs labelling this building as the Pallasades is that, along with the John Lewis, this 'station' is going to look more and more like a Shopping Centre. The external design is already as far removed from that of a train station is as is possible, so now they are going the whole hog and ensuring that not only will it not look like a station, it will look like a shopping centre instead.

If the post-war attempt created a nondescript looking station with a shopping centre above. This attempt has created an over the to shopping centre that just so happens top have a station beneath it.

It just needed simple signage letting people know it was a station, if the flows of people around the city are well enough established and make enough sense then there should be no need to put huge massive labels on the outside in order to make people realise there are shops inside.

The signs for the shopping centre and John Lewis will all be proudly displayed at the top of the buildings, letting everyone see that this Landmark is for shopping, only when you get close will you see the LED Screens above the entrances letting you know that this is a station, that maybe, one day in the past, that was its primary function, whereas now it is just a building designed to funnel people into spending money.

Great design for a shopping centre, awful design for a railway station.
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Old July 30th, 2012, 01:15 PM   #4012
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Very funny.

This is Birmingham New Street Station. Sticking a huge Pallasades sign on top will just look stupied in my opinion.

Or were you actually agreeing with me?

Confused.
Yes I agree with you.

Selfridges does not need a sign as its that iconic. This new build could be the same and should go without a sign and see how it gets on.
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Old August 3rd, 2012, 11:48 AM   #4013
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Received this letter a while ago from Network Rail about my enquiry as to whether anything was being done with the void next to the Rotunda, it just confirms what the Forum consensus was, but I thought I'd include it here for sake of completeness (with names removed) as it's 'straight from the horse's mouth'.

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Old August 3rd, 2012, 03:51 PM   #4014
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Received this letter a while ago from Network Rail about my enquiry as to whether anything was being done with the void next to the Rotunda, it just confirms what the Forum consensus was, but I thought I'd include it here for sake of completeness (with names removed) as it's 'straight from the horse's mouth'.

Surely they could use a different material to fill the void though, other than concrete, maybe glass flooring?
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Old August 3rd, 2012, 07:51 PM   #4015
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Old August 3rd, 2012, 08:58 PM   #4016
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HENCH, Haha, thanks for the updates Sefton

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Old August 4th, 2012, 12:14 AM   #4017
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Great pics cheers; can't wait for "this black cladding looks nothing like we were promised bloody council getting it wrong again"
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Old August 4th, 2012, 12:28 AM   #4018
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HENCH, Haha, thanks for the updates Sefton
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Old August 4th, 2012, 04:34 PM   #4019
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Few from today...it amazing what a feeling of space in this area has been created by the new entrance hoardings being removed. Very clever design IMO as I thought this area might look cluttered.

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Old August 4th, 2012, 05:04 PM   #4020
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thanks for the pics looking really good now, cladding cant be too far off now surely!
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