#Completed: Brisbane Green Bridge

Aussie Bhoy · March 17th, 2004, 03:09 PM

No mention of this for a while, does anyone know what is going on?

Brizzy-Mike · March 18th, 2004, 01:11 AM

Daft scheme I think, if they want a vehicular bridge why aim it straight at the university, it should go to the side. If it is for public transport only why not do a much cheaper pedestrian bridge. Pro PT as I may be buses are quite noisy and are going to have quite an impact on the University. The public pressure to have the bridge opened to other transport will be unstoppable, adding more traffic to the university area.

Orfeo · March 18th, 2004, 02:46 AM

It is not a draft scheme. They are currently out on the river do rock foundation testing, with tenders for construction to be submitted by May and contruction to begin in October (end 2006)

It will never be a vehicular bridge because the govenment has signed a document stating such, essentially UQ could sue them for incredible amounts of money. There will be no travel by bus through the university campus: they will cross the bridge and go into a roudabout-like area where they will drop people off, then get back on the bridge.

I think the buses should have been able to go through the campus, but since this wont happen I feel a pedestrian bridge would suffice. I guess the BCC doesn't think so....

Orfeo · March 18th, 2004, 06:46 AM

Aussie Bhoy · March 18th, 2004, 12:38 PM

Going by what you guys have said it seems crazy that they are spending what would be a lot more money, just for a bus bridge that goes nowhere. Surely it would make more sense for buses to terminate near Dutton Park, and the bridge to be a much cheaper, and smaller pedestrian one.

GMAC · March 18th, 2004, 01:36 PM

I have to agree with Aussie Bhoy. Why can't the buses go through the university??? Surely it would make sense for the buses to go through to Toowong and/or Indooroopilly.

duke · March 18th, 2004, 10:55 PM

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Originally posted by GMAC
I have to agree with Aussie Bhoy. Why can't the buses go through the university??? Surely it would make sense for the buses to go through to Toowong and/or Indooroopilly.

Yes, it would make sense. That was the original plan, however the University refused to be used as a bus thoroughfare and so we have arrived at this largely pointless compromise!

nagelixin · March 19th, 2004, 12:40 AM

The latest proposal was that the uni side of the bridge would have a large U shape bus interchange with NO access to the uni. Given the lack of vision from any political party and the uni this will be the go for some time.

Orfeo · March 19th, 2004, 12:49 AM

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Surely it would make more sense for buses to terminate near Dutton Park, and the bridge to be a much cheaper, and smaller pedestrian one.

Though this makes more sense, no matter how much outrage the current proposal has caused, to do this would be political suicide....

Avatar · March 19th, 2004, 04:09 AM

Well maybe the dumb arses should consider spending some more funds, widening the bridge to 4 lanes and shoving a tunnel under the obstructive university.

Why can Australia never plan with foresight like other nations.

Inzaghi · March 19th, 2004, 06:18 AM

busses through UQ??? i don't think so... the roads around and through the university are a nightmare as they are. They are to narrow and with cars parked on both sides a bus would have no chance of getting through with out causing some damage.

If they build a bridge it should be a full traffic solution servicing the uni and linking throught to toowong. Bulldoze houses to accomidate i say. Put the link in between both.

Or build a cheap "googwill bridge" for pedestrians and leave the busses at a dutton park terminal.

TOCC · March 19th, 2004, 12:27 PM

well maybe the council is thinking ahead and one day is planning to have light rail running to and through the campus..... or maybe there hoping that once the bridge is completed, common sense will prevail and the busses will be allowed to run through the campus.(improvements implemented in doing so)

Or mabye the council just wants a big new shiny bridge that they can flash around....

Orfeo · March 19th, 2004, 12:57 PM

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Well maybe the dumb arses should consider spending some more funds, widening the bridge to 4 lanes and shoving a tunnel under the obstructive university.

Why??? Anyway no. Will never happen.

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well maybe the council is thinking ahead and one day is planning to have light rail running to and through the campus..... or maybe there hoping that once the bridge is completed, common sense will prevail and the busses will be allowed to run through the campus.(improvements implemented in doing so)

Or mabye the council just wants a big new shiny bridge that they can flash around....

I'm betting it's the last one....but hopefully common sense will prevail anyway.

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busses through UQ??? i don't think so... the roads around and through the university are a nightmare as they are. They are to narrow and with cars parked on both sides a bus would have no chance of getting through with out causing some damage.

The main complaint by the Uni was that students would be disturbed by the buses which would roll through the campus all day. But if they went along Sir William Macgregor Drive and then onto Sir Fred Schonell Drive, i can't really see a problem because there are no teaching buildings close by (a few fields and parking lots). Roads can be widened anyway. There are other routes as well but the Uni wont accept them.

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If they build a bridge it should be a full traffic solution servicing the uni and linking throught to toowong. Bulldoze houses to accomidate i say. Put the link in between both.

What houses? the Uni owns all the area and i can't see them approving to have a 'full traffic solution' through their campus. Neverless, if the Uni is freaked out by a few buses comming through the campus can you imagine what a four land road would do?

jellyman · March 19th, 2004, 12:58 PM

I heard once UQ is the biggest destination in Brisbane after CBD, so having buses to UQ that don't go through to Indooripilly is not a total waste.

JayT · March 19th, 2004, 01:09 PM

I love to walk long distances - its the only real way to take Brisbane in. I look forward to the day when I can do a loop through from the CBD to Dutton Park, over the bridge and through St Lucia and back along Coronation drive. Should take a few hours but it passes some interesting suburbs and at least 4 coffee precincts

- I like my cake and coffee with my excersise.

jt

Orfeo · March 19th, 2004, 01:24 PM

^
You can do that at the moment (and i do sometimes), you just have to be willing to catch a city cat or ferry. Great walk/ride.

JayT · March 19th, 2004, 01:36 PM

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Originally posted by Orfeo
^
You can do that at the moment (and i do sometimes), you just have to be willing to catch a city cat or ferry. Great walk/ride.

Perhaps for a Brisbane get together we can organize a coffee/cake/construction crawl through some of Brisbane's most happening inner suburbs.

jt

oztraelian · March 19th, 2004, 07:57 PM

yeah, agreed. schedule a date - its been about 18 months!

Brizzy-Mike · March 23rd, 2004, 12:04 AM

What? So many building geeks and transport geeks in one cafe, it will end in a punch up - like the vegan conference in London one time when they were fighting over weather fruit should be picked off trees, whether one should wait to let the fruit fall off, or whether one was allowed to 'shake' the tree.

nagelixin · March 25th, 2004, 12:28 AM

If there is a change of administrations this coming weekend in Brisbane will the incoming Liberals still build this project? Or will it be scrapped?

March 17th, 2004, 03:09 PM	#1
Aussie Bhoy Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Brisbane Posts: 3,439	#Completed: Brisbane Green Bridge No mention of this for a while, does anyone know what is going on?

March 19th, 2004, 06:18 AM	#11
Inzaghi Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Brisbane Posts: 26	busses through UQ??? i don't think so... the roads around and through the university are a nightmare as they are. They are to narrow and with cars parked on both sides a bus would have no chance of getting through with out causing some damage. If they build a bridge it should be a full traffic solution servicing the uni and linking throught to toowong. Bulldoze houses to accomidate i say. Put the link in between both. Or build a cheap "googwill bridge" for pedestrians and leave the busses at a dutton park terminal. __________________ eat some cheese

March 19th, 2004, 12:27 PM	#12
TOCC Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Heaven Posts: 2,945	well maybe the council is thinking ahead and one day is planning to have light rail running to and through the campus..... or maybe there hoping that once the bridge is completed, common sense will prevail and the busses will be allowed to run through the campus.(improvements implemented in doing so) Or mabye the council just wants a big new shiny bridge that they can flash around.... __________________ Love you all ;)

March 19th, 2004, 01:09 PM	#15
JayT Queenslander!!! Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Brisbane/Gold Coast Queensland Australia Posts: 5,851	I love to walk long distances - its the only real way to take Brisbane in. I look forward to the day when I can do a loop through from the CBD to Dutton Park, over the bridge and through St Lucia and back along Coronation drive. Should take a few hours but it passes some interesting suburbs and at least 4 coffee precincts - I like my cake and coffee with my excersise. jt __________________ BRISBANE - Australia's New World City (well according to this it is) LOL -: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFxELt6lntg

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March 18th, 2004, 01:11 AM	#2
Brizzy-Mike Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Brisbane Posts: 904	Daft scheme I think, if they want a vehicular bridge why aim it straight at the university, it should go to the side. If it is for public transport only why not do a much cheaper pedestrian bridge. Pro PT as I may be buses are quite noisy and are going to have quite an impact on the University. The public pressure to have the bridge opened to other transport will be unstoppable, adding more traffic to the university area.

March 18th, 2004, 02:46 AM	#3
Orfeo Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Brisbane, Saigon Posts: 2,808	It is not a draft scheme. They are currently out on the river do rock foundation testing, with tenders for construction to be submitted by May and contruction to begin in October (end 2006) It will never be a vehicular bridge because the govenment has signed a document stating such, essentially UQ could sue them for incredible amounts of money. There will be no travel by bus through the university campus: they will cross the bridge and go into a roudabout-like area where they will drop people off, then get back on the bridge. I think the buses should have been able to go through the campus, but since this wont happen I feel a pedestrian bridge would suffice. I guess the BCC doesn't think so....

March 18th, 2004, 06:46 AM	#4
Orfeo Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Brisbane, Saigon Posts: 2,808

March 18th, 2004, 12:38 PM	#5
Aussie Bhoy Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Brisbane Posts: 3,439	Going by what you guys have said it seems crazy that they are spending what would be a lot more money, just for a bus bridge that goes nowhere. Surely it would make more sense for buses to terminate near Dutton Park, and the bridge to be a much cheaper, and smaller pedestrian one.

March 18th, 2004, 01:36 PM	#6
GMAC Yeah but No!! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Brisbane Posts: 1,376	I have to agree with Aussie Bhoy. Why can't the buses go through the university??? Surely it would make sense for the buses to go through to Toowong and/or Indooroopilly.

March 19th, 2004, 12:40 AM	#8
nagelixin No internet filtering Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,024	The latest proposal was that the uni side of the bridge would have a large U shape bus interchange with NO access to the uni. Given the lack of vision from any political party and the uni this will be the go for some time.

March 19th, 2004, 04:09 AM	#10
Avatar Galactic Ruler Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Sydney Posts: 4,094	Well maybe the dumb arses should consider spending some more funds, widening the bridge to 4 lanes and shoving a tunnel under the obstructive university. Why can Australia never plan with foresight like other nations.

March 19th, 2004, 12:58 PM	#14
jellyman Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Brisbane Posts: 295	I heard once UQ is the biggest destination in Brisbane after CBD, so having buses to UQ that don't go through to Indooripilly is not a total waste.

March 19th, 2004, 01:24 PM	#16
Orfeo Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Brisbane, Saigon Posts: 2,808	^ You can do that at the moment (and i do sometimes), you just have to be willing to catch a city cat or ferry. Great walk/ride.

March 19th, 2004, 07:57 PM	#18
oztraelian Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Brisbane, QLD. Posts: 80	yeah, agreed. schedule a date - its been about 18 months!

March 23rd, 2004, 12:04 AM	#19
Brizzy-Mike Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Brisbane Posts: 904	What? So many building geeks and transport geeks in one cafe, it will end in a punch up - like the vegan conference in London one time when they were fighting over weather fruit should be picked off trees, whether one should wait to let the fruit fall off, or whether one was allowed to 'shake' the tree.

March 25th, 2004, 12:28 AM	#20
nagelixin No internet filtering Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,024	If there is a change of administrations this coming weekend in Brisbane will the incoming Liberals still build this project? Or will it be scrapped?