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Old October 17th, 2010, 05:06 PM   #221
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, its not gomen money its PNB money why on earth will PNB investor, gonna allowed the use of their money to finance a road work at your city so tat people there can have less jam and hay happy happy burn subsidized fuel and burn a hole in the atmosphere,hek,i wont even want it in my own city..but i tolled highway oklah..


ye lah, when people are frustrate at not getting any goodies,when ifrastructural project aren't annoncs in heir city, when some are wondering how the buget gonna transform malaysia into a high income nation..the PM announce increase of allowance to JKKK(giler x popular)and a 100 story building?

the goverment aleady bukak 1MIFD,sg besi,RISDA,kg baru, then who gonna occupied these building? and it not being build by so called investor, the goverment themself financing it..

i like tall tower, but the new tower wont give as much impact as the PTT, the PTT are the 1st tall building outside the US, in an unknown city an unknowned country, it give us an identity as well as recognition,..however iconic,it wont overshadow the PTT.and most ikely wont become an "icon'. i think, build it at other city lah,like penang or JB, they desperately need a symbol for their city

and what on earth did the PNB mgmt thinking ? without any experiences or whatever, suddenly jump ship into properties and their fis venture are building the world 2nd 3rd tallest building?..hope not gonna see some CEO getting fire for cost overun again..hahaha

jgn abih jahanan duit kitaorg dl tabung PNB tu sudah
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Old October 17th, 2010, 05:54 PM   #222
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woww this design will be iconic... pls scroll down....















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Old October 17th, 2010, 06:13 PM   #223
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haha really iconic
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Old October 17th, 2010, 06:34 PM   #224
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..org2 kat bwh tu smua tgh bantah pmbinaan tower tu
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Old October 17th, 2010, 06:35 PM   #225
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..org2 kat bwh tu smua tgh bantah pmbinaan tower tu
those ppl are depositors of PNB (Amanah Saham buyers)....
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Old October 17th, 2010, 06:51 PM   #226
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let wait n see...the design proposal and how PNB will deal with the depositor...some economist also question the rational of this project...hmmm...wait najib reaction about strong objection of this project....today he told reporter there are no bonus for public servant because it will involve huge money and the gomen no money to pay it...

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Old October 17th, 2010, 10:08 PM   #227
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As I said on Twitter, it is better to build 10 MRT lines at whatever cost it may be than to build one 100-storey skyscraper. Today, Malaysians are fed up with increasing traffic in KL area, any money spent to increase density in KL will be protested by the rakyat. Enough said.
Agreed. RM 5 billion could be better spent to improve the public transportation system in KL or to improve the current extremely slow internet speed throughout the nation to be at least on par to the speed of those in the Western European countries.
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Old October 18th, 2010, 01:05 AM   #228
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Very simple solution PNB can launch a new"Amanah Saham 100" and lets see if people will invest ,let the people decide what to do with their money!!!
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Old October 18th, 2010, 04:40 AM   #229
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Well said. I think the building of 100-level supertall is a total waste of people's money and immature proposal. The government should seriously use the people's money to build and strengthen the public transportation network in the cities in Malaysia.

People staying in Kuala Lumpur and Penang face congested traffic jam every weekdays. Heavy traffic jams do waste people's energy, creating traveling cost and other business costs. The government should seriously think ahead, care about people's welfare. And please strengthen the nationwide infrastructure including facilities for disables, greenery and public transportation.

Building 100-level Warisan Merdeka creates more traffic and does not solve the problem.
juz wait 4 the new LRT, MRT & Bullet train
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Old October 18th, 2010, 06:48 AM   #230
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Warisan Merdeka project a hot topic
By YIP YOKE TENG and LIM CHIA YING
metro@thestar.com.my


The infrastructure development projects proposed in Budget 2011 are welcomed in the Klang Valley as they would improve the quality of life.

However, industry experts commented that comprehensive planning and follow-up action must be in place to ensure that funds allocated for the projects are effectively used.

The 100-storey Warisan Merdeka has become the hottest topic with many expressing concern over adding a megastructure to the congested city. They want more information on the purpose of the RM5bil skyscraper.

Bukit Bintang MP Fong Kui Lun thinks there is already an oversupply of office space in Kuala Lumpur. He questioned the necessity and is concerned over traffic congestion due to the project’s proximity to schools,

“Is this viable and could the money be better spent on more important things?” he asked.


New landmark: The site for the proposed 100-storey Warisan Merdeka which is near Stadium Negara and Stadium Merdeka. —Bernamapic

The Malaysian Institute of Planners’ honorary secretary Lee Lih Shyan said the government should provide more details on the purpose of Warisan Merdeka.

“Until and unless they give us more details, I am doubtful of the impact of this building on the construction-related sector since we are already anticipating development of the Sungai Besi Air Force Base, Rubber Research Institute in Sungai Buloh and Pudu Jail,” he said.

“If the new icon is to boost tourism, I do not see the point, too, because tourists come to Malaysia for its natural resources. I doubt they come here to see another skyscraper,” he added. However, the institute’s sustainable planning and community development committee chairman Khairiah Mohd Talha welcomes the project because “the trend for growth nowadays is towards intensification”.

“As space becomes scarce in the city, it is natural that development intensifies,” said Khairiah.

“However, developments like these will only be justified if they are carried out along the major public transportation routes. This is also to slow down urban sprawl,” she said.

Khairiah said it was secondary on how tall the building would be as market forces determined the need for such height.

“There are pros and cons of course, but for high-rise buildings, cost is greatly reduced with less use of land and innovations on green technology can be harnessed on a single building,” she said.
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Old October 18th, 2010, 07:00 AM   #231
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i dont know and i dont want 2 complain,
i think the gov knows better...
they're all qualified thinker
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Old October 18th, 2010, 09:43 AM   #232
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U really thinks so ha
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Old October 18th, 2010, 10:48 AM   #233
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Errr... it may sounds like The Ryugyong Hotel (Korean: 류경호텔) (sometimes anglicized as Ryu-Gyong Hotel or Yu-Kyung Hotel[5]) is a 105-floor skyscraper under construction in Pyongyang, North Korea.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryugyong_Hotel
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Old October 18th, 2010, 12:12 PM   #234
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hurm...why ppl stil arguing bout tis project??
x ambil iktibar pasal KLCC dulu??
kata membazir tp sekarang, tersangat berguna kan??
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Old October 18th, 2010, 12:33 PM   #235
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and the land value also increase fast..i love mega project
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Old October 18th, 2010, 12:50 PM   #236
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hope they will design something iconic and decent which will transform that place into another downtown.
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Old October 18th, 2010, 01:18 PM   #237
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hurm...why ppl stil arguing bout tis project??
x ambil iktibar pasal KLCC dulu??
kata membazir tp sekarang, tersangat berguna kan??
cube compare time KLCC di bina dgn time PNB nk buat 100 storey building ni..u will know why people are arguing this project and why they need government to study the significant of this project..if Government think this tower will attract visitor come to KL...they want to know how will it attract people?..dozen of supertall are build around the world including our neighbor...using supertall to attract people come to malaysia are not relevant anymore....Twin tower will remain the landmark and icon for kl and this new building impossible to overshadow this twin tower.

If they build this tower because of demand it may be logic and acceptable but KL now are already oversupply of office space..some economist worry the bubble come from this project since the government already plan so many mega project around KL including KLFD, sunga besi redevelopment, Rubber research institute, kampung baru and so on..so why need this supertall?

Again i hope government and PNB can futher explain the rational of this project and how it will give benefit to people and nation...rakyat skrng x akn terima bulat2 macm dulu, our people now more critical and they need good reason behind of any big project especially when use rakyat money(in this case they use PNB where the money come from people)
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Old October 18th, 2010, 03:23 PM   #238
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not to mention BBCC

and the site is already close to sg besi onemalaysia thinggy and one 1MIFD

make it all residential tower lah,..sold all those unit during pre lounch, then nobody will complain no more, further more to get the world tallest residential tower just need to beat Q1 aje kan,
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Old October 18th, 2010, 03:51 PM   #239
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residential tower instead office maybe nice.. something like The Spire Chicago or Pentominium Dubai. these are example of iconic structures that could increase KL visibility.

but both structures are seaside area with stunning view. not suitable for warisan merdeka.
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Old October 18th, 2010, 04:19 PM   #240
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ah ha but KL got that stunning green wall of bulan sabit shape mountain range serounding it

but need an outdoor observatory lah on top of it, so the common rakyat can fell happy..
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