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Ruffhauser · October 28th, 2009, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by BellevueGuy

I am of the opinion that you should not pay premium for Bachelor degree (only exception is probably schools like Harvard when you want to do Law or Business graduate schools)

Good advise here. For the most part, a B.A is a B.A, especially from a public university. If you have it in your head to shell out big cash for school, do it for grad work or a professional degree.

just4ivaylo · October 29th, 2009, 12:35 AM

Thanks. I've also been considering Western, but since it's farther up north, I don't know if I'll like it as much as UW. It would be a bit cheaper though.

CrazyAboutCities · October 29th, 2009, 02:55 AM

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Originally Posted by just4ivaylo

The worst part is I don't know if it's really for me. When did you guys figure out what you wanted to major in?

Many people tend to change their career few times in their lifetime. It is depends on individual when they figure it out what they want to major in. Sometime they already know what they want to do since childhood. Some finally figured it out way later in their lives. While I was growing up, I always wanted to be an architect but I have no skill in math which stopped me from become one. I was serious considering to purse my degree in business and urban planning until my second year in Western Oregon University. I realized that I am actually good at interior design and I have been told by so many people that I am good at it. I changed my major and moved to Seattle to focus on that field. I got my Bachelor of Fine Art in Interior Design last year at Art Institute of Seattle. Unfortunately, I graduated at wrong time and no architectural firms is hiring entry-level interior design position so I have to do something different just for now. I plan to return to my field when economy gets better and at same time I am considering to go to UW for graduate school and get another degree in different field (I have some ideas but haven't made up my mind yet).

RMacherat · October 29th, 2009, 07:43 AM

Great advice, seasun, and others.

I did UT Austin too, just4ivaylo. Partywise, a step down from WSU but getting better I hear. Not as expensive living as some other university towns, and don't forget the travel costs. Oh yeah, academics too. They've plenty of money to spend on talent.

Some people I know are still in the career fields they set out upon their first day of college (doctors, pharm, architects) but most are light years away from where they thought they would be.

just4ivaylo · October 29th, 2009, 10:06 PM

UT looks nice, but I don't like Texas too much so far. I doubt Austin is that much different than the Houston area.

BoulderGrad · October 29th, 2009, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by just4ivaylo

UT looks nice, but I don't like Texas too much so far. I doubt Austin is that much different than the Houston area.

Actually, Austin has the reputation of being sort of the San Francisco of Texas. Artsy fartsy, left wing, open. Definitely not the same level as Seattle or San Fran, but definitely much better than Houston.

CrazyAboutCities · October 29th, 2009, 11:01 PM

That is true. Downtown Austin is known as party town too.

Seattlelife · October 30th, 2009, 03:01 AM

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Originally Posted by just4ivaylo

UT looks nice, but I don't like Texas too much so far. I doubt Austin is that much different than the Houston area.

I've been to Houston and everything I've heard about Austin is very different. Also, I don't know that UW is obviously more "prestigious" than UT. I think that's a Seattleite's opinion.

I went to BCC for 2 years then transferred to UW. I initially transferred as a G.I.S. major and quickly realized I hated it, so I switched to "Economic Geography" for my B.A. I definitely want to return to school though, but not at UW. UW was a pretty big let down for me personally but that was probably just my specific experience. I have hopes of studying urban design, planning, and/or architecture like a lot of you here. Oh, and BCC is a very good school.

just4ivaylo · October 30th, 2009, 03:46 AM

It's now BC. :P I'll always call it BCC though. Is it hard to transfer into UW from BCC? I was thinking about going that route since it would be cheaper than UW at first.

I'll definitely have to visit Austin first (if I get accepted to UT, or even if I'll apply) to see how it is compared to Seattle.

Grayproduct · October 30th, 2009, 05:34 AM

It's about as difficult as getting admitted as a freshman. If you do it though, you'll be entering UW when tuition will be ~12k a year (assuming you start BCC in 2010), on track to about 13k/yr. I think we pay around 7k/yr right now. Admissions difficulty seems to be on an upward trajectory and I see no reason for that to change in the next few years as UW reinvents itself as a "semi-private" institution. Should have done Running Start

.

On the plus side of things, you save quite a bit still by going to BCC (or equivalent) and the level of education is at least on par, if not better for the general education courses. I went to Spokane Falls CC for two years and the classes there were just as rigorous as UW's, and since they were not lecture hall based, offered better learning opportunities. UW is fantastic for researchers and specific programs, but is woefully lacking in meaningful undergraduate education. My two cents.

RMacherat · October 30th, 2009, 07:28 AM

Will you guys just look at that banner from Chongqing. For just a moment I thought it was Manhattan. It's hard to imagine that's old "Chungking" in the boondocks of China. I have a fuzzy memory of stuff in a can ... ? Now a super-metro of 31 million people.

Seattlelife · October 30th, 2009, 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by RMacherat

Will you guys just look at that banner from Chongqing. For just a moment I thought it was Manhattan. It's hard to imagine that's old "Chungking" in the boondocks of China. I have a fuzzy memory of stuff in a can ... ? Now a super-metro of 31 million people.

I thought the same thing, holy s***, especially since 99% of this country has never heard of it.

BellevueGuy · October 30th, 2009, 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Seattlelife

I thought the same thing, holy s***, especially since 99% of this country has never heard of it.

I visited there once, it used to be really poor & old. They built the new city in less than 10 years.

Such is the wealth and man power of China....

Chongqing is also the sister city of Seattle lol.

just4ivaylo · October 30th, 2009, 10:13 PM

Either way, I will be paying more than you guys for education, whether I attend UW or any other university.

BoulderGrad · October 31st, 2009, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by BellevueGuy

I visited there once, it used to be really poor & old. They built the new city in less than 10 years.

Such is the wealth and man power of China....

Chongqing is also the sister city of Seattle lol.

as far as Per Capita GDP, China is not particularly wealthy. What they do have is an enormous population that happens to be on a mass migration from countryside farms to the cities. Since the government technically owns everything, they have the resources to draw on to build these massive projects.

"Communism gets shit done ;-)"

Seattlelife · October 31st, 2009, 06:16 AM

Check out this thread from the architecture section of SSC. It's titled "Hyper modern buildings collection."

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=978160

Maybe a little far out but the kind of vision I'd love to see in Seattle!

Seattlelife · October 31st, 2009, 06:17 AM

double post.

BellevueGuy · October 31st, 2009, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by BoulderGrad

as far as Per Capita GDP, China is not particularly wealthy. What they do have is an enormous population that happens to be on a mass migration from countryside farms to the cities. Since the government technically owns everything, they have the resources to draw on to build these massive projects.

"Communism gets shit done ;-)"

Nah.... that's the common misconception. Their government doesn't really own everything, but they do have enormous central power and play a huge role in economy like US government. The income distribution is very uneven now - creating some mega-rich businessmen.

I just met up with two friends who came down and bought two houses at Mercer Island with cash: 3.5 million and 1.7 million.

Another guy who visited with them bought one with cash 17 million.

Scary...

Seasun · October 31st, 2009, 06:02 PM

A small bus story - I don't ride often but in the past month or so there have been a couple times when people who are trying to decide whether to get on the bus ask a driver about where it goes and the driver provides a marginal answer. I appreciate that drivers are (hopefully) trying to get the bus moving so they don't have time to think through their response and they don't want a pissed off passenger on the bus so it's lower risk to give an answer that keeps people off their bus.
Two stories:
1. Boarding a 15 or 18 (I forget which) near 1st and Pike some tourist-types got on the bus and asked if the bus went to the main restaurant area of Ballard. The driver said no - get the other bus (15 or 18). So the women got off the bus to wait. Well the 18 goes up 24th Ave and the 15 goes up 15th Ave - It's a short walk from either route to the main restaurant area of downtown Ballard but the 18 gets you a little closer.

2. I was on the 23 heading south on 3rd Ave when a woman got on around Pine Street and asked if the bus went to Jackson Street. The driver said no so she got off. The bus did turn east on Yesler but it's only 3 blocks to Jackson.

Both of the cases involved people who could easily walk a few blocks and seemed like they would be happy to do so. I think these stories touch on visitors not realizing how compact much of Seattle is. Even when I visit other cities it's always takes a while to figure out how far things are and when it's worth making a subway transfer or just walking the rest of the way to the place I'm trying to go to.

I'm not blaming the drivers for giving out slightly lame info because they really do need to get driving but I think it's kind of funny when I hear the question, imagine my response ("yeah this bus will get you within a couple blocks.") and then before I realize it the driver has answered and the visitors have left the bus to wait around for another bus that is barely any better.

RMacherat · October 31st, 2009, 08:13 PM

Interesting. I think we, Seattle in general, could benefit from a little propaganda on how to live with and accommodate tourism since it seems we want it. When they're shuffling around, getting lost, asking questions, gawking .. all the same things we do when we're out of town .. we need to remember that's money in the bank blocking the sidewalk, etc.

October 30th, 2009, 05:34 AM	#90
Grayproduct Registered Abuser Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: dawghaus Posts: 441 Likes (Received): 6	It's about as difficult as getting admitted as a freshman. If you do it though, you'll be entering UW when tuition will be ~12k a year (assuming you start BCC in 2010), on track to about 13k/yr. I think we pay around 7k/yr right now. Admissions difficulty seems to be on an upward trajectory and I see no reason for that to change in the next few years as UW reinvents itself as a "semi-private" institution. Should have done Running Start . On the plus side of things, you save quite a bit still by going to BCC (or equivalent) and the level of education is at least on par, if not better for the general education courses. I went to Spokane Falls CC for two years and the classes there were just as rigorous as UW's, and since they were not lecture hall based, offered better learning opportunities. UW is fantastic for researchers and specific programs, but is woefully lacking in meaningful undergraduate education. My two cents. __________________ What we've got here is failure to communicate. Last edited by Grayproduct; October 30th, 2009 at 07:27 AM. Reason: c

October 31st, 2009, 06:16 AM	#96
Seattlelife Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: Seattle/Brooklyn Posts: 3,382 Likes (Received): 59	Check out this thread from the architecture section of SSC. It's titled "Hyper modern buildings collection." http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=978160 Maybe a little far out but the kind of vision I'd love to see in Seattle! __________________ Supersonics Belong in Seattle Sonicsgate, a must see! Just click and watch. http://www.sonicsgate.org/

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October 29th, 2009, 12:35 AM	#82
just4ivaylo Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Bellevue, WA Posts: 1,968 Likes (Received): 29	Thanks. I've also been considering Western, but since it's farther up north, I don't know if I'll like it as much as UW. It would be a bit cheaper though.

October 29th, 2009, 07:43 AM	#84
RMacherat Buy used books Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 1,699 Likes (Received): 80	Great advice, seasun, and others. I did UT Austin too, just4ivaylo. Partywise, a step down from WSU but getting better I hear. Not as expensive living as some other university towns, and don't forget the travel costs. Oh yeah, academics too. They've plenty of money to spend on talent. Some people I know are still in the career fields they set out upon their first day of college (doctors, pharm, architects) but most are light years away from where they thought they would be.

October 29th, 2009, 10:06 PM	#85
just4ivaylo Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Bellevue, WA Posts: 1,968 Likes (Received): 29	UT looks nice, but I don't like Texas too much so far. I doubt Austin is that much different than the Houston area.

October 29th, 2009, 11:01 PM	#87
CrazyAboutCities Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Seattle, Washington Posts: 8,328 Likes (Received): 15	That is true. Downtown Austin is known as party town too.

October 30th, 2009, 03:46 AM	#89
just4ivaylo Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Bellevue, WA Posts: 1,968 Likes (Received): 29	It's now BC. :P I'll always call it BCC though. Is it hard to transfer into UW from BCC? I was thinking about going that route since it would be cheaper than UW at first. I'll definitely have to visit Austin first (if I get accepted to UT, or even if I'll apply) to see how it is compared to Seattle.

October 30th, 2009, 07:28 AM	#91
RMacherat Buy used books Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 1,699 Likes (Received): 80	Will you guys just look at that banner from Chongqing. For just a moment I thought it was Manhattan. It's hard to imagine that's old "Chungking" in the boondocks of China. I have a fuzzy memory of stuff in a can ... ? Now a super-metro of 31 million people.

October 30th, 2009, 10:13 PM	#94
just4ivaylo Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Bellevue, WA Posts: 1,968 Likes (Received): 29	Either way, I will be paying more than you guys for education, whether I attend UW or any other university.

October 31st, 2009, 06:02 PM	#99
Seasun Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Seattle Posts: 2,552 Likes (Received): 42	A small bus story - I don't ride often but in the past month or so there have been a couple times when people who are trying to decide whether to get on the bus ask a driver about where it goes and the driver provides a marginal answer. I appreciate that drivers are (hopefully) trying to get the bus moving so they don't have time to think through their response and they don't want a pissed off passenger on the bus so it's lower risk to give an answer that keeps people off their bus. Two stories: 1. Boarding a 15 or 18 (I forget which) near 1st and Pike some tourist-types got on the bus and asked if the bus went to the main restaurant area of Ballard. The driver said no - get the other bus (15 or 18). So the women got off the bus to wait. Well the 18 goes up 24th Ave and the 15 goes up 15th Ave - It's a short walk from either route to the main restaurant area of downtown Ballard but the 18 gets you a little closer. 2. I was on the 23 heading south on 3rd Ave when a woman got on around Pine Street and asked if the bus went to Jackson Street. The driver said no so she got off. The bus did turn east on Yesler but it's only 3 blocks to Jackson. Both of the cases involved people who could easily walk a few blocks and seemed like they would be happy to do so. I think these stories touch on visitors not realizing how compact much of Seattle is. Even when I visit other cities it's always takes a while to figure out how far things are and when it's worth making a subway transfer or just walking the rest of the way to the place I'm trying to go to. I'm not blaming the drivers for giving out slightly lame info because they really do need to get driving but I think it's kind of funny when I hear the question, imagine my response ("yeah this bus will get you within a couple blocks.") and then before I realize it the driver has answered and the visitors have left the bus to wait around for another bus that is barely any better.

October 31st, 2009, 08:13 PM	#100
RMacherat Buy used books Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 1,699 Likes (Received): 80	Interesting. I think we, Seattle in general, could benefit from a little propaganda on how to live with and accommodate tourism since it seems we want it. When they're shuffling around, getting lost, asking questions, gawking .. all the same things we do when we're out of town .. we need to remember that's money in the bank blocking the sidewalk, etc.