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Old August 24th, 2009, 03:28 PM   #201
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No, it's not an "excuse" as you put it. I am discussing what I consider to be problems. Yes, they are decent buses in YOUR opinion. Some people here in the Bay Area disagree. I've talked to a few people, and they'd be perfectly happy with a bus with seats ON THE FLOOR and a front door wheelchair ramp.
And there are just as many riders who do not mind the seats being on pedestals. Again, it`s a moot point. The seats are not that much higher compared to seats that are attached to the wall of the bus.
You should be blaming AC Transit for these problems, not the bus manufacturer. As I said before, the biggest issue with Van Hool is most likely the maintenance cost, and cost to get parts.

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Tell me, any problem with this?
http://www.gillig.com/New%20GILLIG%20WEB/Brt.htm
Well.. Yeah. Gillig, like NFI took their normal bus and just added new styling, and raised the price considerably. I personally take umbrage to these `BRT` products, for the simple reason they do not need to sell it as BRT. They should be sold as normal buses.

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Oh, and if you're about to tell me that they're not good quality, take a look at this review.
http://www.yelp.com/biz/gillig-corporation-hayward
And according to that page, Gilligs run around $3k. I could be wrong, but aren't Van Hools more expensive?
A review by some anonymous poster on a generic site. O-K. Like that proves anything. I have ridden new Gilligs, and I like them. But like I said above. Gillig shouldn`t be selling a BRT product. It`s a sham. Those buses should be sold as a normal city bus.
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Old September 1st, 2009, 02:10 PM   #202
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Oh right! Forgot about the hungarian element. Even so, they are North American vehicles, and they do a perfectly good job. There's no problem with them at all. Also, they're MUCH less expensive.
After 11 pages of discussion, I'm surprised no one mentioned the fact that Chicago had to prematurely retire 200+ articulated NABI at only 5-6 years of age.

The reason: structural problems and fears for public safety.

So there goes BART Rider's credibility about over his NABI being excellent buses claim.
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Old September 20th, 2009, 01:14 PM   #203
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Van Hool buses

After seeing the similar thread on Solaris buses, I thought I'd start one about the buses built by Belgian manufacturer Van Hool.



I'll start, with the current line-up of Van Hool buses being built.

The A300, full low floor, midship engine:



The A330, full low floor, vertically placed engine in the back:



The A308, shorter midi-bus, full low floor, second door in the back:



The A309, shorter midi-bus, full low floor, second door in the middle:



The A360, low entry bus (low floor up to the back door):



The AG300, articulated low floor bus:



The AGG300, double articulated low floor bus:

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Old September 20th, 2009, 02:05 PM   #204
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Van Hool A330 trolley:



AG300 trolley:



AG300 diesel-electric hybrid:



And, last but not least, Van Hool fuel cell buses:


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Old September 20th, 2009, 03:55 PM   #205
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Nice busses...Fuel cell is an interesting idea.
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Old September 22nd, 2009, 06:41 AM   #206
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No double deck?

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Old September 22nd, 2009, 09:43 AM   #207
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No double deck?
These are just the transit buses. Van Hool does build double deckers, but those are coaches.

The TD925 Astromega:


..and the longer TD927:
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Old October 2nd, 2009, 06:53 PM   #208
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Van Hool is a great company. beautiful buses.
i love the A330.
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Old October 5th, 2009, 04:48 PM   #209
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Van Hool is currently building a new bus, unlike any bus in existence today: the C3045. The prototype is currently being built, and it was developed at the request of AC Transit in the USA. The C3045 is a mix between a transit bus and a highway coach: the front is that of a low-floor transit bus, the back is that of a highway coach.

No pictures are available yet, but on the Van Hool website there is this diagram:


and in this document from the AC Transit board you can see a few 'artist's impressions' of the new bus:
http://www.actransit.org/aboutac/bod/memos/4842c9.pdf
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Old October 5th, 2009, 05:06 PM   #210
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Great to see our Flemish buses all over the world

I like these too:


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Old October 5th, 2009, 05:23 PM   #211
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If I'm not mistaken, that TD921 is actually the team coach of Manchester United football team.
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Old October 11th, 2009, 07:44 PM   #212
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The beautiful Van Hool newAGG300 buses in my city (Utrecht, The Netherlands):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ee7QWjXyXZY&fmt=22
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Old October 11th, 2009, 11:59 PM   #213
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Van Hool-Trolley AG300-T in Salzburg (Austria).

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Old October 12th, 2009, 09:12 PM   #214
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The beautiful Van Hool newAGG300 buses in my city (Utrecht, The Netherlands):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ee7QWjXyXZY&fmt=22
Excellent video! Great quality! Did you film it yourself?
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Old October 13th, 2009, 12:01 AM   #215
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for van Hool fans!

Look at my Video about the Trolleybus-System of Esslingen am Neckar (a suburb of Stuttgart, 95.000 inh.). Its in German language but the clips are beutiful. Enjoy it.

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Old October 15th, 2009, 06:19 PM   #216
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I like van Hool

The Netherlands
The Zuidtangent rapid transit-line (From Haarlem - via Schiphol Airport - to Amsterdam South East)




And in Utrecht-City (GVU)




Arnhem (Connexxion) Van Hool old serie
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Old October 16th, 2009, 02:36 AM   #217
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Van Hool in Belgium

TEC


De Lijn


MIVB/STIB


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Old October 16th, 2009, 07:34 PM   #218
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Arnhem (Connexxion) Van Hool old serie
Actually, that last one is not a Van Hool, it's a VDL Berkhof Premier.
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Old December 13th, 2009, 02:34 PM   #219
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Van Hool has been awarded a contract by Flemish public transport company De Lijn for 74 new Low Entry buses (A360) and 77 new articulated buses (AG300).

Meanwhile, at Busworld, Van Hool revealed the first hybrid A360, the fourth hybrid transit bus by the company (after the AG300, A300 and A308 hybrids):


And there will be a fifth: the French city of Beauvais has ordered a prototype A330 hybrid.

At the same Busworld, Van Hool also received two prizes: Bus builder of the year, and the environment award for their new A300L fuel cell bus, as ordered by AC Transit and Hartford, CT in the USA:
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Old December 13th, 2009, 02:45 PM   #220
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France is very close to the Belgium but it is not so common to see Van Hool bus.

In Dijion most of the rolling stock is Van Hool.



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