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Old September 26th, 2010, 01:57 PM   #201
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Some major Walt Disney projects in this thread.....
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Old September 26th, 2010, 04:09 PM   #202
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Some major Walt Disney projects in this thread.....
Disney is in your ass

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Old September 26th, 2010, 05:43 PM   #203
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Give me some more of the so called "Disney-style" buildings. I like those
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Old September 26th, 2010, 06:42 PM   #204
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A picture of the Hotel Central in the old quarters of Panama City:



A picture of its ongoing reconstruction, or I'd rather say destruction.

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Old September 27th, 2010, 02:46 AM   #205
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What on earth are they doing there??
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Old September 27th, 2010, 06:53 PM   #206
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Reconstructions on Neumarkt, Dresden, part 1:

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Old September 27th, 2010, 06:56 PM   #207
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Reconstructions on Neumarkt, Dresden, part 2:

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Old September 27th, 2010, 10:25 PM   #208
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Does anyone know what the local Dresdeners think of the reconstruction of the Neumarkt? Are they in favour, against or apathetic? I would've thought it was a popular move but it's hard to tell unless you live there.
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Old September 27th, 2010, 11:34 PM   #209
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I have mix feelings about Dresden. Yes it beautiful and yes the war destroyed a city that would look like that otherwise. But even if you can argue and convince me of any misgivings I might have about it, I would still think it will give a very very dubious "example to follow" around the world which I would hate to see it happen. If cities start to demolish more modern buildings to replace them with ones from a set period of time, then we'll start popping up Disneylands everywhere. Dresden might be good for Dresden, but it surely won't be anywhere else.
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Old September 28th, 2010, 12:16 AM   #210
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That is wery good,the Modernist cubes are oooooverestimated
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Old September 28th, 2010, 09:58 AM   #211
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Are the 1960's historical enough?


Avala TV tower, Serbia

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1999- destroyed
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Old September 28th, 2010, 12:55 PM   #212
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looks good,how was it destroyed?
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Old September 28th, 2010, 01:52 PM   #213
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Hit by NATO missiles on 29 April 1999.

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I have mix feelings about Dresden. Yes it beautiful and yes the war destroyed a city that would look like that otherwise. But even if you can argue and convince me of any misgivings I might have about it, I would still think it will give a very very dubious "example to follow" around the world which I would hate to see it happen. If cities start to demolish more modern buildings to replace them with ones from a set period of time, then we'll start popping up Disneylands everywhere. Dresden might be good for Dresden, but it surely won't be anywhere else.
Well, if modern architecture was producing high-quality attractive stuff there would be no need to reconstruct lost buildings. The matter of the fact is modern architecture is hoplessly ugly and widely hated. Besides Id much rather have this sort of stuff than concrete tower blocks.
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Old September 30th, 2010, 12:33 AM   #215
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So is this post war architecture coming to an end? Did modernism made a full circle and is bound to end? Are we going back to the classics again? Baroque, Gothic, Neoclassic, Rococo, Industrial, Art Deco? Was the 20th century a failed experiment? I don't necessarily disagree to that, but it will be hard to swallow.
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Seeing as tower blocks and concrete offices are being torn down, streets are being turned into streets again and anti-car laws introduced, I think it is safe to say that modernism has failed. It failed because it does not understand human nature. Decoration is important, following street line is important, human scale is important. Modernism said no to all of these and it failed. Unfortunately it did so much damage that our cities perhaps will never fully recover.
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Old September 30th, 2010, 12:57 AM   #217
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That is a subject of a huge discussion. It needs a thread.
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Old September 30th, 2010, 05:38 AM   #218
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Love the Dresden photos!
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Old September 30th, 2010, 08:30 PM   #219
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Seeing as tower blocks and concrete offices are being torn down, streets are being turned into streets again and anti-car laws introduced, I think it is safe to say that modernism has failed. It failed because it does not understand human nature. Decoration is important, following street line is important, human scale is important. Modernism said no to all of these and it failed. Unfortunately it did so much damage that our cities perhaps will never fully recover.
Oh, I wouln't be so sure. Acctually modernism had many faces, and one of the main reasons of the modernist idea was to exactly do what you say - think about a human being. But with its developement and developement of the technology, it led to some serious overuse, which I can agree that surely, it happened. But compare for exapmple Bruno Taut with Le Corbusier. The first one designed new apartments in a healthy environment in contrast with overcrowded Berin tenements for workers, and he always thouth about the human being and his various needs. Completely diffetent to Le Corbusier, who made up his own proposal of an ideal human, and he used his "Modulator" to design his amazing in artistic way, but not really human-friendly as it occured with time buildings. I love the first phase of modernism which is more or less placed in between the two world wars. After war, when the concrete allowed architects to build some humangus structures, resembling factories for sleepeing, working, resting, it was not really good for the towns.
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Seeing as tower blocks and concrete offices are being torn down, streets are being turned into streets again and anti-car laws introduced, I think it is safe to say that modernism has failed. It failed because it does not understand human nature. Decoration is important, following street line is important, human scale is important. Modernism said no to all of these and it failed. Unfortunately it did so much damage that our cities perhaps will never fully recover.


I agree with that 100%. Modernism seeked to isolate and alienate people. All it did was alienate itself. And it turned its back on the past with a shrug of contempt. It inflicted itself on almost every city in the world with no consideration of context or culture. I despise it, not for itself so much (which I hate anyway) but how it imposed itself on our cities at the expense of much that was old and beautiful.
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