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Awesome thread!
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Wow, good job Beijing!
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Pellerhaus, Nuremberg, Germany: Built 1602-1605, Destroyed 1945
This was one of the most outstanding domestic Renaissance buildings in Northern and Central Europe. Designed by Jacob Wolf the Elder it was built by Viatis Bartholomew for his son Martin Peller. What a magnificent building, and it had a beautiful courtyard too. Unfortunately, like 90% of Nuremberg, it was destroyed in 1945 by Allied bombs. The ground floor of the courtyard survived and was incorporated into a (hideous) new building in the 1950s. Reconstruction of part of it started in 2009. Does anyone in Germany know what is being reconstructed? My German isn't good enough to enable me to find out more. Anyway, here are the photos: Before the war: Horrible 'Modern' Facade! ![]() ![]() All photos came from here: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pellerhaus There's some debate about the reconstruction here (using Google translation): http://translate.google.co.uk/transl...tion%26hl%3Den And another page of information here (using Google translation): http://translate.googleusercontent.c...TszJJ6oTA#Reko ![]() Found some more information on the planned reconstruction here: http://translate.googleusercontent.c...5RGQDPrD3keLTQ Last edited by wolfpaw; January 15th, 2010 at 02:08 AM. |
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Falkenhaus, Würzburg, Germany: Built c1710, Destroyed 1945, Rebuilt 1952
This is how reconstruction should be done everywhere! The early 18th century house was totally destroyed during World War Two but was reconstructed in the 1950s. It looks fantastic. The ornate stucco decoration on the facade was added in 1751.Before the war: http://culturas-beraber.blogspot.com...1_archive.html After the war: ![]() http://www.thirdreichruins.com/wurzburg2.htm Reconstruction! ![]() http://i29.tinypic.com/2mdkqhk.jpg ![]() http://www.routeyou.com/location/vie.../falkenhaus.en
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Very impressive reconstructions!!!
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OMG I have to go to Beijing ASAP!
我已经想北京!!
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Falkenhaus looks good enough to eat, yum!
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As far as I'm aware, they're only reconstructing the interior courthouse, NOT that wonderful facade. The 'modern' facade is a listed building itself.
Absolute shambles if you ask me. If I had my way I'd bulldoze half of Nurnberg.... |
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Why would they list that hideous modern facade? ![]() And I agree re. Nuremburg as a whole. Nearly all the post-war rebuild is just awful. What an absolute disaster for what was once probably the most perfectly preserved Gothic city north of the Alps. This: ![]() was replaced with this: ![]() This: ![]() was replaced with this: ![]() This: ![]() was replaced with this: ![]() http://www.stadtbild-deutschland.de/...e/1/index.html Apart from the key churches and the castle, it seems that very little historical reconstruction was done in Nuremburg. When you think of pre-war Wurzburg, Nuremburg, Hildesheim, Brunswick, Hannover, Frankfurt, Dresden and Berlin, the historical and architectural losses are just beyond comprehension and a tragedy for the entire continent of Europe. Last edited by wolfpaw; January 15th, 2010 at 10:14 PM. |
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Leibnizhaus, Hannover, Germany: Built 1499, Destroyed 1943, Rebuilt 1981-1983
The half-timbered house was given a superb stone Renaissance-style facade in the mid-17th century, with the three-tiered bay window decorated by Peter Koster, a native of Hannover. The 18th century polymath Gottfried Leibniz lived in the house from 1698 and died there in 1716. The house was totally destroyed by Allied bombs in 1943 and the site was cleared. Fortunately, between 1981 and 1983 the Renaissance facade was reconstructed using old photographs, although on a different footprint to where it had previously been built. It's beautiful. I just love those crow-stepped gables. Before the war: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fi...-Haus_1900.jpg After the war: ![]() http://www.bdaarchitekt.de/arch/bda/...rchitekt&ID=65 Reconstruction: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fi..._Haus_2008.jpg ![]() http://www.openpr.de/news/129050/Lei...ziehungen.html |
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It's a great shame though that Nuremberg doesn't go down the route taken by Dresden and attempt a more thorough reconstruction of its altstadt. It's easy to say and easy to wish for but I guess it would cost a fortune, especially if it was done properly. |
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Before the war Frankfurt had the largest stud work old town in europe. Pictures you can find here: http://www.altfrankfurt.com
two examples: ![]() ![]() Since 2005 they´re planning the reconstruction of some districts of the former old town. |
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But unfortunately that wont involve demolishing the new Salzhaus and building the old one
![]() http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salzhaus_%28Frankfurt%29 |
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But I don't think they did a poor job with rebuilding Nürnberg. It's just that the post-war buildings of course can't stand any comparison with the pre war image you have. But they at least restored the roof scape of the city and were watching for traditional shapes and details, integrated spoils (such as madonna figures, bays / oriels or ornamentations) and used dormer windows. That's a good base for the medieval cityscape that has to be completed by some key reconstructions. 10-15 reconstructed major buildings/ensembles would make the city absolutely gorgeous again. But the city government and people of Nürnberg finally have to perceive this chance! So far only private associations such as Altstadtfreunde Nürnberg did.
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Full Pellerhaus reconstruction and Toplerhaus rebuild would do well. Also they need to knock most of the market square. Then we're talking
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MILAN
Santa Maria delle Grazie's church (where is Cenacolo of Leonardo daVinci) after war ![]() today ![]() source: Visoterra Sant Ambrogio's church after war ![]() today ![]()
Last edited by tanosmile; January 22nd, 2010 at 04:38 AM. |
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Stunning complex of buildings!
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