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Old December 5th, 2011, 08:31 AM   #401
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Nope, I mean what I said, the soon to be build concrete rear of the Stadtschloss/City Palace.


http://www.getidan.de/gesellschaft/i...ss-vorgestellt
Why they aren't going to reconstruct rear of the palace in its orginal shape?
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Old December 5th, 2011, 06:43 PM   #402
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Why they aren't going to reconstruct rear of the palace in its orginal shape?
I like the idea of the reconstruction but the Spree-side is the only part which I don't like. That's the only part which could be better.
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Old December 5th, 2011, 07:10 PM   #403
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Exactly. So, who and why came up with the idea of this modern Spree-side facade? It really doesn't fit to the rest of palace
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Old December 5th, 2011, 09:04 PM   #404
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What's really sad: The design of the Spree-facade was okay-ish at some point. But severel redesigns made it worse and worse. The cladding won't even be sandstone anymore, but concrete...
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Old December 5th, 2011, 09:15 PM   #405
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What's really sad: The design of the Spree-facade was okay-ish at some point. But severel redesigns made it worse and worse. The cladding won't even be sandstone anymore, but concrete...
Concrete? What INCOMPETENT came up with that idea?
If they insist on this "modern" facade it MUST at least match the materials of the rest of the building. Makes you wonder what morons are turned out these days by the architecture schools!
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Old December 6th, 2011, 12:10 AM   #406
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Exactly. So, who and why came up with the idea of this modern Spree-side facade? It really doesn't fit to the rest of palace
I suspect they chose to rebuild that side in a modern style, because the Spreeseite of the Schloss was a mishmash of older buildings from earlier palaces on that site.




This is much harder to reconstruct properly than the classicistic part of the building, so that's why I think this side will be contemporary.
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Old December 6th, 2011, 12:21 AM   #407
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It is amazing to see how cities or major historical buildings that were totally destroyed during wars were rebuilt, sometimes from scratch, so history wasn't lost. Meanwhile, here in Brazil, buildings fall apart because their owners don't care for their preservation, and the city gradually loses its memories!
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Old December 6th, 2011, 12:39 AM   #408
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I suspect they chose to rebuild that side in a modern style, because the Spreeseite of the Schloss was a mishmash of older buildings from earlier palaces on that site.

This is much harder to reconstruct properly than the classicistic part of the building, so that's why I think this side will be contemporary.
Oh, I didn't know that. If so, the modern facade, is even understandable. But... maybe not in exactly this shape.
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Old December 6th, 2011, 03:32 AM   #409
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I say its better than nothing, although it would have been pretty cool if the modern part was deconstructivist or at least more interesting.
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Where is this model and when was it made?
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If they're going to reconstruct the Spree-side, the architects give the palace more alternation. What's the function of the modern Spree-side? It doesn't look to good at an reconstruction of an old palace.
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Old December 6th, 2011, 08:58 PM   #412
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Where is this model and when was it made?
It was in a shopwindow on Unter den Linden in Berlin. Don't know if it's still there though.
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i guess you can find it at "Humboldt Box" opposite the "Berlin Dom":
http://www.humboldt-box.com/en.html

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Old December 7th, 2011, 02:41 PM   #414
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Love the building above! Visit it every time we're in Berlin
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Old December 9th, 2011, 12:32 AM   #415
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btw, although this is the european section, can i post some projects from iran ? alot of the structures share many common aspects with european buildings so it will blend., and surely i wont flood the thread, there isnt sufficient projects anyway
I'm not in charge here, but I'd say, go right ahead! I for one would be very interested.
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In the spirit of the above comment, here's one from Mexico. Arches of the "Pasaje de la revolución" Rebuilt: 2001

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http://www.flickr.com/photos/maylm83/2907953662/

Currently it is in the process of recovering its glass roof:



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In the spirit of the above comment, here's one from Mexico. Arches of the "Pasaje de la revolución" Rebuilt: 2001

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http://www.flickr.com/photos/maylm83/2907953662/

Currently it is in the process of recovering its glass roof:



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Oh! great, which part of Mexico is that?
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Old December 9th, 2011, 09:59 PM   #418
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I suspect they chose to rebuild that side in a modern style, because the Spreeseite of the Schloss was a mishmash of older buildings from earlier palaces on that site.




This is much harder to reconstruct properly than the classicistic part of the building, so that's why I think this side will be contemporary.
That is precicely what makes many old structures so interesting, the fusion of different periods, but unlike contemporary efforts, never competing or deliberately causing a discourse because traditional elements of design were always employed. Would not be at all difficult to rebuild the older facade but would obviously be more costly and in these times that probably rules it out anyway.
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That is precicely what makes many old structures so interesting, the fusion of different periods, but unlike contemporary efforts, never competing or deliberately causing a discourse because traditional elements of design were always employed.
Not true, not at all. What happens is that, today, we have a set of more-or-less old (and crappy IMO) design features from periods as much as 200 years apart that look akin because, today, they are all compared to modern architecture full of steel and glass. However, if your universe for comparison were only old styles, you could easily pinpoint abnormalities and lack of consistency between them.
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Not true, not at all. What happens is that, today, we have a set of more-or-less old (and crappy IMO) design features from periods as much as 200 years apart that look akin because, today, they are all compared to modern architecture full of steel and glass. However, if your universe for comparison were only old styles, you could easily pinpoint abnormalities and lack of consistency between them.
Or if your universe only exists out of modern architecture everywhere....

Just some reconstructions don't have to be edited because the 'architect' would like to see it on his way. I think the way of the reconstructing has to be choosen by the 'normal' people...... I think many of them want to see the original building in it's old glory

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