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Old September 17th, 2012, 07:37 PM   #621
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Potsdam, Würzburg, Nürnberg and Gorlice

I hope that one day in the future the Germans will reconstruct parts of the once magnificent urban landscapes of Potsdam, Würzburg (those both super gems of architecture in Germany) EXACTLY as happened in the Amsterdam examples.

And then and only then they realized how many hundreds-of-thousannds truly amazing buildings are lost and can NOT be rebuilt by their sheer volume. Look at the pictures of Berlin from the air and this is clear to anybody.

Odoakers huge aerial photograps of Berlin, Kassel, Dresden and Mannheim shows that even the Germans can not cope anymore with the scale of destruction they did to themselves when in 1945 certainly not all was lost.

By removing all the ruins, uncountable undemolished houses and simplifying virtually all remaining houses (how thorough and meticolous!!) Germany has lost its rich and very impressive and well structured and laid out Architecture, which was even superior in its harmony to Paris.
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Old September 18th, 2012, 12:53 AM   #622
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The buildings in Gorlice has decent historic outlines and proportions, very nice colours and show also a decent artmanship.
Gorlice? Rather Zgorzelec (or just Goerlitz) - Gorlice is other city in Lesser Poland Voivodeship
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Old September 18th, 2012, 02:41 PM   #623
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Every one feels more comfortable and pleased in those intimate and cozy streets and squares from before 1945 than in the spacious and deserted (treeless) streets flanked by cold bunkerlike buildings from after the war.
Those windy dark spacy places offer .....nothing but a feeling of fleeing them as quick as possible.......
Speak for yourself, I know many pre-war streets where you can be "intimate" with rather unpleasant people.
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Old September 20th, 2012, 06:04 AM   #624
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I hope that one day in the future the Germans will reconstruct parts of the once magnificent urban landscapes of Potsdam, Würzburg (those both super gems of architecture in Germany) EXACTLY as happened in the Amsterdam examples. (SNIP)
I have been to Würzburg many times... and although it is still nice enough... I got the impression that before WWII it was something like Prague, but not as large... with a huge castle on the opposite riverbank, and statuary on the bridge.

Würzburg Cathedral was restored... but to a much tamer look... don't really like the interior much (besides the Baroque Chapel).

But what really is the glory in Würzburg is the Residenz (Palace of the Prince-Bishops). Although 2/3 of it was firebombed in WWII (mercifully the interiors were stripped down to the walls before the bombing), the major central block escaped destruction. And that is the glory of Würzburg.... Balthasar Neuman's greatest secular work.... the staircase is probably the finest in any palace in Europe (a "Double Imperial" type), with Tiepolo's magnificent ceiling fresco's there and in the Kaisersaal (Emperor's Hall) are magnificent... and that they survived at all is a miracle. Today the palace is a UNESCO Heritage Site... and WIKI on "Würzburg Residenz" shows the beautiful exterior of the palace.... "Europa's Schönste Pfarrhof" (Europe's finest Church Rectory).
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Old October 7th, 2012, 05:57 PM   #625
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Dresden, Taschenbergpalais:

The building was built from 1705 to 1708 by Johann Friedrich Karcher as a palace for countess Anna Constanze von Hoym. It was destroyed in 1945 by The Second World War and it was rebuilt in 1992-1995. It was essentially rebuilt from scratch, and the reconstruction costed 127.8 million euro. On March 31, 1995 the hotel was openned by the five-star hotel chain Kempinski

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Kurländer Palais, Dresden:

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Old October 7th, 2012, 06:00 PM   #626
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It is so beautiful to see such nicely done reconstructions
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Old October 7th, 2012, 09:17 PM   #627
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THis old buildings had been abandoned in Sofia for several years, it had some structural problems, so it was thorn down.

[IMG]http://i48.************/y2qe9.jpg[/IMG]

this is the current reconstruction

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Old October 7th, 2012, 09:25 PM   #628
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Old October 7th, 2012, 10:27 PM   #629
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Not sure if this video has been posted, but this is how Frankfurt's old town will look like after reconstruction

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Old October 8th, 2012, 05:36 PM   #630
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Dresden, Taschenbergpalais:

The building was built from 1705 to 1708 by Johann Friedrich Karcher as a palace for countess Anna Constanze von Hoym. It was destroyed in 1945 by The Second World War and it was rebuilt in 1992-1995. It was essentially rebuilt from scratch, and the reconstruction costed 127.8 million euro. On March 31, 1995 the hotel was openned by the five-star hotel chain Kempinski

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But what with the top of the building, with two statues and Coat of Arms?



I would still prefer that instead of 3 windows... But it is nice, obviously a bit different then it was...
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Old October 8th, 2012, 05:41 PM   #631
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Oo, i have found out!

Then it was in the center of the palace



And now is above the entrance



It was moved!
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Old October 8th, 2012, 05:56 PM   #632
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Good catch, White Light ...I was wondering about the same thing
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Old October 8th, 2012, 11:03 PM   #633
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But the two statues were removed!!!

I liked those two statues which were intact on the ruin.
The removed coat of arms was slightly different originally too, larger I would say.
A pitty they did not kept that original fassade as it was in the restauration.
Why did they change the fassade?????

Like so many German restaurations: statues were left out.

On the Reichstag: the missing statues and quadriga.

On the Deutsche Bank in Berlin (Behrenstrasse): the still lacking statues, windows and ballustrade near the roof.

On the reconstructed Potsdamer Stadtschloss: the statues will not return!!!

What the **** "ist los" with the Jerries????/

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Old October 9th, 2012, 12:34 AM   #634
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The facade was kept intact and should be preserved. The roof inclination is different, the mansards didn't exist, and the move of the coat of arms and the elimination of the statues changed the building volumetry and harmony. As a matter of fact, it was a reconstruction not a restoration. Didn't like it.
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Old October 10th, 2012, 04:25 PM   #635
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On the reconstructed Potsdamer Stadtschloss: the statues will not return!!!
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that´s not 100% true...the "Potsdamer Stadtschlossverein" is an association which actively collects donations to complete the palace facade with 32 of the original 76 statues.
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Old October 10th, 2012, 09:23 PM   #636
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Not sure if this video has been posted, but this is how Frankfurt's old town will look like after reconstruction

Some of that looks good but still no Salzhaus reconstruction. They even show the 1950s garbage on the video!
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Old October 11th, 2012, 11:57 PM   #637
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I liked those two statues which were intact on the ruin.
The removed coat of arms was slightly different originally too, larger I would say.
A pitty they did not kept that original fassade as it was in the restauration.
Why did they change the fassade?????
They changed it because it was not original at the time the palace was bombed. Thus, it was restored to its original condition, with mansard roofs and no statues on it.

The statues were re-erected in the inner courtyard.
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Here they are! Really, in inner court! Great! Thanks, Johnny!



And current main entrance before the war


After the war


1990 and 2004
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And now


Anyway, great reconstruction!
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It is a lovely reconstruction. Just hoped they had reconstructed some of the interior rooms as well besides the staircase.
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Old October 12th, 2012, 12:40 AM   #640
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Łęczyca castle(XIVcentrury):

in XIX century(slowly degradation):




1962(before reconstruction):


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