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Old June 6th, 2013, 11:22 AM   #741
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Cutting through the Berlin City Palace / Humboldt-Forum:


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Current view of the Berlin City Palace construction site seen from river Spree in May:
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Old June 6th, 2013, 02:48 PM   #742
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Freaking awesome! Here in the United States, were still tearing down our history everywhere, when will we ever learn ugh.
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Old June 6th, 2013, 04:33 PM   #743
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Here are two rebuilt buildings from Trondheim, Norway. They were reclad back to their former look in the late '80s. I'm unsure about when they got their modernistic claddings though. Sadly similar modern reclads of our historic buildings have been relatively common in Norway.

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Brann i Kleingården (1980) by Trondheim Byarkiv, on Flickr

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Olav Tryggvasons gate by Hege., on Flickr

I will post more rebuilt buildings later.

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Old June 7th, 2013, 12:37 AM   #744
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A sigh of relief just escaped my lungs^...

nice one!
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Old June 7th, 2013, 02:19 AM   #745
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A sigh of relief just escaped my lungs^...

nice one!
Indeed, that is quite a difference. The first pic was atrocious.
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Old June 7th, 2013, 07:08 AM   #746
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What the idiots during the 50s-80s were thinking is beyond me.
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Old June 7th, 2013, 10:42 PM   #747
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They embraced clean, refreshing forms. And they were thinking the exact same thing you just said, except about older time periods.
Although there are plenty of far better examples of modernism than those. No big loss.
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Old June 8th, 2013, 01:08 AM   #748
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They embraced clean, refreshing forms. And they were thinking the exact same thing you just said, except about older time periods.
Although there are plenty of far better examples of modernism than those. No big loss.
The problem with Modernism is that it's been around now for decades and many people just don't like it. It's not as if it hasn't had a chance. It was given millions of square metres to work on after WW2 alone and yet on some profound level it has utterly failed. Why are people still flocking to Old World towns to see pre-20th century architecture instead of going to the UNESCO-listed Le Havre to see the post-war stuff there? Why are cities like Gdansk, Dresden, Frankfurt and Berlin still reconstructing pre-war buildings so many years after they vanished? Why hasn't Modernism been able to fill the void left by those structures?
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Old June 8th, 2013, 01:14 AM   #749
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They embraced clean, refreshing forms. And they were thinking the exact same thing you just said, except about older time periods.
Although there are plenty of far better examples of modernism than those. No big loss.
We have built buildings like that since the mid '20s. "The older time periods" at the time consisted of the exactly same type architecture as the building in Trondheim was built with. There was nothing refreshing about it. People probably said "what were they thinking of" while architects, then as now, said that people should learn to embrace it.
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We have built buildings like that since the mid '20s. "The older time periods" at the time consisted of the exactly same type architecture as the building in Trondheim was built with. There was nothing refreshing about it. People probably said "what were they thinking of" while architects, then as now, said that people should learn to embrace it.
True. They've been saying that for 70+ years: 'Oh, you'll learn to love it'. Now we can't tear it down fast enough. How long does Modernism want to convince us of its merits?

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Old June 8th, 2013, 09:59 AM   #751
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The problem with Modernism is that it's been around now for decades and many people just don't like it. It's not as if it hasn't had a chance. It was given millions of square metres to work on after WW2 alone and yet on some profound level it has utterly failed. Why are people still flocking to Old World towns to see pre-20th century architecture instead of going to the UNESCO-listed Le Havre to see the post-war stuff there? Why are cities like Gdansk, Dresden, Frankfurt and Berlin still reconstructing pre-war buildings so many years after they vanished? Why hasn't Modernism been able to fill the void left by those structures?
So true.
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What if we have examples of historical reconstructions outside the realm of women who don't shave?
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Today will be open rebuilt Palace of Grand Dukes of Lithuania











Remains of palace, which was demolished in about 1800







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Old July 6th, 2013, 02:42 AM   #755
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Prior to its rebuilding and renovation, what was the condition of the palace?
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Old July 7th, 2013, 06:07 PM   #757
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Just foundation was left, after destruction by tsarist army in the first half of the XIX century.
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More from palace:

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Palace before demolition





Reconstruction view of Royal palace and upper castle by J. Kamarauskas in 1894.


view of lower and upper castle in XVII c. Photo by [sp] from ************
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Old July 8th, 2013, 11:27 AM   #759
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I cannot find, please, add some before after, i would love to see photos of ruin condition.
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Old July 8th, 2013, 05:39 PM   #760
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All foundation was buried with soil, in 1987 first excavations started, l think.

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