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Old January 6th, 2016, 06:49 PM   #1081
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I am really hoping for a full reconstruction. Ruin is nothing. You almost cannot visit this, its really to ruined to have any meaning. When its reconstructed, it is part of community, part of events, part of active life of the country. I am totally for reconstructions. I am sick of ruins. We need real deal, full view, not just mentions and history, that will be lost in time.
This adds another very important aspect to the castle discussion we had.
These places have often been a or even the center of not only power, but the cultural and social life of their regions. Especially with more liberal and people-friendly rulers. When these castles were destroyed or neglected, their adjacent regions often fell asleep, too. I don't see why it should remain like that forever, if you can re-establish social and cultural life with such a project for a whole region, then just do it! A ruin ain't worth much if it doesn't have any other than some historical sidenote-like value.

Europe needs to be more self-confident
and forward about its achievements and should bring back to life what was lost. And constantly create new things, functions and communities as well, of course. There is no 'healthy shrinking' (eco-socialist mantra!), only growth and progress are healthy!
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Old January 6th, 2016, 08:32 PM   #1082
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Bravo, Erbse, i love you! That is the attitude i support very much! In that name one example from my country. We have one small fortress in town of Vršac, it was XV century castle on top of the hill, and only ruined shell of the main tower survived.


www.upoznajsrbiju.co.rs

It will be reconstructed in phases, first one is already done

Facebook, Opština Vršac

After everything is done, it will look like this, reconstructed as it was 500 years ago.

www.evrsac.rs

Already we have a museum inside reconstructed part. Already we have by far more visitors and tourists visiting the site. A lot of thing happening there.
Quite happy, here in Serbia we have some king of reconstruction boom, a lot of medieval ruined fortresses are reconstructed and restored as we speak.

Golubac Fortress
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virtuelnimuzejdunava.rs

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www.fcp.at

Ram Fortress
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virtuelnimuzejdunava.rs

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www.telegraf.rs

I am happy. Ruins, deelict dangerous walls will become center of attention, as it suppose to be. If you ask me, ruins should remain ruins only for ancient, very well known important locations. Everything else should be reconstructed. We should see original idea of constructors, living breathing organism, and not just dying remains.
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Old January 7th, 2016, 12:25 AM   #1083
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Old January 7th, 2016, 12:31 AM   #1084
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More great photos of this castle here
(Regéc castle)

I am really hoping for a full reconstruction. Ruin is nothing. You almost cannot visit this, its really too much ruined to have any meaning. When its reconstructed, it is part of community, part of events, part of active life of the country. I am totally for reconstructions. I am sick of ruins. We need real deal, full view, not just mentions and history, that will be lost in time.
I wonder with how many accuracy can be reconstructed wooden parts of the castle.
The reconstruction of the stone parts is one thing, but the reconstruction of the wooden parts is something else
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Old January 7th, 2016, 12:52 AM   #1085
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Castle Bela 2
Very nice, but this would fit more in this thread.

Unless it was torn down and reconstructed.
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Old January 7th, 2016, 12:49 PM   #1086
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Very impressive Serbian examples White Light, thank you!
I'm especially amazed by Golubac. Wow. That'll once again become a world-class scenic fortress! Bring it on!
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Old January 10th, 2016, 01:34 AM   #1087
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I was about to bring up examples like famed Heidelberg Castle, that of course should stay the romantic ruins they are now; but nothing else will happen there anyway huh.
Actually there was a plan to reconstruct the Hortus Palatinus (palace gardens) at Heidelberg Castle - although reconstruct is a relative term there, the Hortus Palatinus was never completed originally before it was destroyed. The initiative thankfully died away after hefty protests from the population.
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Old January 10th, 2016, 06:00 AM   #1088
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I'd be fine with the renaissance gardens though. They looked amazing in the plans.
Would be nice to have, no must of course.


https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/F..._Fouquiere.jpg


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https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/F...von_Merian.jpg


http://ww2.heidelberg.de/stadtblatt-...el_id=3017&bf=

The somewhat boring 'blandness' today... They should at least do something about the innappropriate modern lamps.


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Old January 10th, 2016, 08:22 AM   #1089
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Some last year restorations from Bulgaria:

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Old January 10th, 2016, 08:33 AM   #1090
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The next one is Peristera fortress:
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Old January 10th, 2016, 08:46 AM   #1091
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Old January 10th, 2016, 08:55 AM   #1092
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The roman baths in Akve Kalide, near Burgas, used by the Ottoman sultan Suleiman the Magnificent:

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I like how the reconstructed buildings still look ancient.
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Old January 14th, 2016, 12:51 AM   #1094
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Tisza monument (17 meters tall), Budapest, Kossuth square. Originally inaugurated in 1934. Destroyed in 1945. Reconstructed in 2014.

Count István Tisza was prime minister of Hungary between 1903 and 1905, and from 1913 to 1917. He was assassinated in October 1918.

The original statue was totally destroyed by the Communists after WWII and the empty place on the square was filled with a statue of Tisza's famous adversary, Count Mihály Károlyi, the “Red Count” as he was known as. Károlyi's statue was moved to a small town (Siófok).

gróf Tisza Istvánt ábrázoló szobor rekonstrukciója_az 1945-ben ledöntött eredeti szobor fotója by elekimresculptor, on Flickr

70-cm-es vázlat by elekimresculptor, on Flickr

Az 1:1-es agyagmodell by elekimresculptor, on Flickr

Az 1:1-es agyagmodell_részlet by elekimresculptor, on Flickr

a szerkezeti összeállítás utolsó eleme is a helyén... by elekimresculptor, on Flickr

oroszlán by eclipse.chaser, on Flickr

1300 fok by eclipse.chaser, on Flickr

csak óvatosan by eclipse.chaser, on Flickr

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Old January 15th, 2016, 10:18 AM   #1095
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Why there is a Wehrmacht soldier on the left side ?
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Old January 15th, 2016, 11:04 AM   #1096
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The city of Middelburg, Zeeland, The Netherlands

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Old January 15th, 2016, 06:43 PM   #1097
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Why there is a Wehrmacht soldier on the left side ?
It's not a Wehrmacht soldier. The Austro-Hungarian army used "Berndorfer" helmets in WWI. These helmets were similar to the German Stahlhelm.
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Tizsa monument is stunning! It may interest those who live in Budapest to know that when they do the ads on TV for Norwegian Cruise Lines in the U.S. they always show Budapest to show Americans how beautiful Europe is. (And they are right!)
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Old January 19th, 2016, 04:04 PM   #1099
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Using Budapest as a representation how beautifull europe is makes absolutely sense as its one of the largest habour cities of the continent...

Oh wait... its not!
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A reconstruction of the renaissance gardens of the castle in Heidelberg would be amazing! Today it is kind of boring:

IMG_2105 by Selt Sam, auf Flickr
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