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View Poll Results: What European bid should be selected as host?
England 217 35.06%
Portugal & Spain 119 19.22%
Belgium & Netherlands 85 13.73%
Russia 198 31.99%
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Old November 28th, 2009, 11:50 PM   #221
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My prediction:

1. The 2018 bid will go to Europe - Russia.

2. The 2022 bid will go to Australia.

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Old December 1st, 2009, 11:54 PM   #222
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Russians put England's 2018 World Cup bid in the shade

Executives behind England's 2018 World Cup bid today announced they had finally secured the full £15m budget needed to fund it. However, their relief was short-lived after their Russian rivals announced a target figure of $40m (£24m) and revealed they planned to ask Roman Abramovich and other oligarchs to dip into their pockets for a few roubles more.

The 2018 chief executive, Andy Anson, in South Africa this week to lobby Fifa executive committee members ahead of Friday's World Cup draw, had hoped the government would contribute a third of their budget. But amid concern about public money being used to fly around the world and entertain Fifa executive committee members in straitened economic times, the government instead offered a £2.5m loan.

Anson revealed that the £250,000 each promised by the 12 host cities who emerge from the ongoing bidding process would help bridge the gap, while the FA had agreed to make up the difference. Dismissing concerns that England could lose out to better-funded rivals, Anson said the deal left the 2018 team "in good shape financially". "We've got the money we need to do the best possible bid."

Such concerns are not liable to trouble Alexey Sorokin, the chief executive of Russia's 2018 bid. He said he was confident of more than doubling the $20m it was receiving from the government from private sources, using the same model that has proved profitable for the Sochi 2014 Winter Olympics bid.

"We know that Abramovich supports the idea of the bid, although I don't know if he's publicly announced that," said Sorokin. "There are other people involved in football that are very well off that will be requested for assistance."
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There will be first bid presentations at december 4th, before the draw.
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Old December 2nd, 2009, 06:43 PM   #223
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Rauball: Deutsche Unterstützung für WM in Russland

In English: Germany will support Russian WC bid .
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Old December 2nd, 2009, 07:05 PM   #224
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Rauball: Deutsche Unterstützung für WM in Russland

In English: Germany will support Russian WC bid .
Is this a late revenge for England's bid for the 2006 WC? Beckenbauer as german's and the world's football - "Lichtgestalt" has a big influence in Fifa's executive committee, his favourite was England up to now, but who knows...
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Old December 2nd, 2009, 07:16 PM   #225
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Beckenbauer has said all along he's supporting England. So either they've changed their mind or something's amiss.
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Old December 2nd, 2009, 07:35 PM   #226
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However, their relief was short-lived after their Russian rivals announced a target figure of $40m (£24m) and revealed they planned to ask Roman Abramovich and other oligarchs to dip into their pockets for a few roubles more.
Considering the billions they've (in essence) stolen from the Russian populace I think this would be fair of them.






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Old December 4th, 2009, 02:06 AM   #227
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2018-England or Russia

2022-USA or Australia
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Old December 4th, 2009, 12:45 PM   #228
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Considering the billions they've (in essence) stolen from the Russian populace I think this would be fair of them.

Come again?
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Old December 4th, 2009, 03:39 PM   #229
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Where will be the bid presentations online today?
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Old December 4th, 2009, 06:33 PM   #230
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Come again?
To put it lightly, the current Russian business oligarchs like Abromovich came about their wealth through shady political arrangements that adversely impacted local economies. Swindlers with political connections. Thus, there is no nobility in approving of their wealth, let alone celebrating it.
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Old December 4th, 2009, 07:33 PM   #231
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All videos from today's presentations:

http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/bidders/index.html
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Old December 4th, 2009, 10:00 PM   #232
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Holland/Belgium's is great!
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Old December 4th, 2009, 10:53 PM   #233
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My prediction:

1. The 2018 bid will go to Russia

2. The 2022 bid will go to Indonesia
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Old December 5th, 2009, 12:14 AM   #234
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Portugal & Spain
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Old December 5th, 2009, 01:44 AM   #235
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Is this a late revenge for England's bid for the 2006 WC? Beckenbauer as german's and the world's football - "Lichtgestalt" has a big influence in Fifa's executive committee, his favourite was England up to now, but who knows...
It sounds like England is still being supported by Beckenbauer but the League President is supporting Russia.

It still seems a bit strange, but if I had to pick between the two as to who supported the English bid I'd pick Der Kaiser every time.
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Old December 5th, 2009, 02:00 PM   #236
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The best one was Australia's; really excellent film which got its point across and was slick.

I liked Holland/Belgium's next. Well made, got the point across and you've got to love their crazy sense of humour.

I think England's comes after these two; it got the point across very well indeed but wasn't as slick as either of the above.

The USA, Russia, and Spain/Portugal come next. The USA was substance over style, lots of stats but somehow not as exciting as I thought it should be. Russia and Spain/Portugal were the opposite, nicely made, but didn't tell me why FIFA should go to either.

Qatar's I only watched to see how much they put into it really; I don't think they've got much of a chance. And, despite being the most expensive looking, it was a lovely piece of spin and not much more. I didn't believe any of it, it felt very fake. The least convincing of the ones I watched.

The others I didn't bother watching. Japan and Korea are a bit cheeky bidding so soon after 2002, and I don't think Indonesia will be getting either world cup.
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Old December 5th, 2009, 05:37 PM   #237
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you know, the message about why WC should be in their country, were sent not only through these videos. It was just an addition to presentations and few days of Bid Expo before, where every country could explain everything and answer on any questions. I want to say that analyzing bids only by videos is not enough.
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Old December 5th, 2009, 06:10 PM   #238
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Russia is a very good! Spartak Moscow forewer!
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Old December 5th, 2009, 06:16 PM   #239
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you know, the message about why WC should be in their country, were sent not only through these videos. It was just an addition to presentations and few days of Bid Expo before, where every country could explain everything and answer on any questions. I want to say that analyzing bids only by videos is not enough.
Did I say it was? Where did I say in my post I was doing anything more than analysing the videos?
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Old December 5th, 2009, 06:22 PM   #240
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I was talked mostly about this:
"but didn't tell me why FIFA should go to either."

They didn't show it in video, because were explaining it during all Expo.
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