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Old September 26th, 2010, 05:39 AM   #341
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Pressure is growing on FIFA Executive Committee member Vitaly Mutko to resign as Russia's Sports Minister after it emerged that he claimed expenses for the equivalent of five breakfasts a day while he was attending the Olympics in Vancouver earlier this year, where the team had its worst ever performance.

Mutko was already facing questions following details of an investigation carried out by the Audit Chamber and ordered by Russian President Dmitry Medvedev had revealed that his hotel suite during the Games in Canada cost $1,500 (£986) a night - more than ten times what he was legally allowed to claim under Government rules.

The total bill for Mutko's 20-day trip to Vancouver and his two deputies was $34,000 (£22,000).Now it has been revealed that Mutko claimed for an additional $4,500 (£2,959) during his stay for 97 breakfasts - which translates to nearly five a day.

It is widely accepted that Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin would have forced Mutko to resign after Vancouver if it were not for the fact that he is a lynch-pin of the country's bid to host the 2018 FIFA World Cup.

Mutko is a key and influential member of the FIFA Executive Committee and the fear is that if he is damaged at home politically it will affect Russia's bid, which has emerged as the favourites ahead of England.

Mutko denied accusations of misspending, calling them "speculation" and "total rubbish".


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The total bill for Mutko's 20-day trip to Vancouver and his two deputies was $34,000 (£22,000).Now it has been revealed that Mutko claimed for an additional $4,500 (£2,959) during his stay for 97 breakfasts - which translates to nearly five a day.
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Old September 26th, 2010, 08:07 AM   #343
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Canadian maple syrup on pancakes is an addictive mix
Oh yeah and you can never find the top quality stuff these days, I mean no wonder the guy paid that much, it's really understandable. Canada has to make more maple syrup. The situation is just getting ridiculous, we can't have FIFA committee members going down for maple syrup charges. I mean they didn't go down for ticketing rorts, bribes or blackmail, so it'd be a real shame if he went down, just because he wanted the best syrup for his food, I mean we've all been there

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Old September 26th, 2010, 08:41 AM   #344
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maybe he's just hungry.....you know how small those hotel breakfasts are
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Old October 28th, 2010, 06:48 PM   #345
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Old October 28th, 2010, 08:30 PM   #346
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Old October 28th, 2010, 09:53 PM   #347
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Old October 28th, 2010, 11:16 PM   #348
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England to withdraw Russia 2018 complaint after apology

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/9134479.stm

England's 2018 World Cup bid team is to withdraw a complaint to Fifa about Russia's campaign following an apology from their rival bidder.

The Russian sports minister Vitaly Mutko has apologised for comments made by Alexei Sorokin, who is general director of the nation's bid team. England's official complaint was that Russia had broken bidding rules when he made disparaging comments about London. Fifa's committee met on Thursday to receive reports on the bids.

The English bid team had complained that Sorokin highlighted London's "high crime rate" and youth alcohol problems in an interview with Russian media that appeared to contravene Fifa's rules about talking about rival bidders. Mr Mutko approached England 2018 chairman Geoff Thompson with a genuine apology in an honourable manner England 2018 spokesperson.

Tensions between the two bids then intensified after Viacheslav Koloskov, honorary president of the Russian Football Union, referred to England's 2018 bid as "absolutely primitive" and "comical".

Yet the England 2018 team say they are keen to move on from the controversy, and believe Russia's bid team are genuinely sorry. "We, of course, accepted this apology and appreciate the gesture. We now wish to move on from this matter."

Aside from England and Russia's bids, Spain and Portugal have a joint bid on the table for 2018, as do Netherlands and Belgium. Meanwhile the 2022 World Cup hosts will be from Australia, the United States, Qatar, Japan and South Korea.

The winning bids are set to be announced following a vote by the Fifa executive committee in Zurich on 2 December.
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Old October 29th, 2010, 12:05 AM   #349
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Yeah, seems like the most mature response from both sides, best to avoid a full on war of words, I think, just forgive and forget.
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Old October 29th, 2010, 01:36 AM   #351
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Russia should just nuke them and get this over with. Russia 2018 for trelawny. In better stadiums I trust. Qatar 2022.
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Old October 29th, 2010, 02:45 AM   #352
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Russia should just nuke them and get this over with. Russia 2018 for trelawny. In better stadiums I trust. Qatar 2022.
So England should be nuked because of a world cup is that right?
That's fantastic logic there. Why don't you go back into your little bigot cave and hide in there with your lil small minded Doha buddies. I'm sure the rest of the world would love for you to STFU.
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Old October 29th, 2010, 03:35 AM   #353
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So England should be nuked because of a world cup is that right?
That's fantastic logic there. Why don't you go back into your little bigot cave and hide in there with your lil small minded Doha buddies. I'm sure the rest of the world would love for you to STFU.
No need to rise to every bit of banter, surely?

I don't want to make assumptions........but I'm pretty sure that Trelawney wasn't seriously suggesting that Russia nukes England.
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Old October 29th, 2010, 07:21 AM   #354
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No need to rise to every bit of banter, surely?

I don't want to make assumptions........but I'm pretty sure that Trelawney wasn't seriously suggesting that Russia nukes England.
Nevertheless, the trolling gets tiresome when the majority are trying to have a reasonable discussion. It's just old.
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Old October 29th, 2010, 08:32 AM   #355
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Russian 2018 World Cup bid chairman apologises for drink and crime slur.

• Vitaly Mutko spoke to Geoff Thompson and Andy Anson
• England bid team accept peace offering to end sniping


http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2...ld-cup-apology

The chairman of the Russian 2018 World Cup bid has apologised publicly for his country's derogatory remarks about England in an attempt to defuse the bitter row between the two rivals.

Vitaly Mutko, who is also the Russian sports minister and sits on the Fifa executive committee, approached his opposite number on the bid, Geoff Thompson, and England 2018's chief executive, Andy Anson, over breakfast in Zurich to try to draw a line under the dispute.

"I have great respect for the England bid and we have no desire to say we are better than any other bid," said Mutko, ahead of the first Fifa executive committee meeting since corruption allegations rocked the world governing body. "If there had been any misunderstanding I was ready to apologise for it."

The row flared after it emerged that England had lodged a formal complaint with Fifa, which was withdrawn last night, after the Russian bid's chief executive, Alexei Sorokin, was quoted as saying that London had a high crime rate and problems with alcoholism. Sorokin has repeatedly claimed that his words had been mistranslated and declined to offer a "formal apology", instead writing a letter of "explanation" to England's bid.

But, even as it was being considered, Vyacheslav Koloskov, honorary president of the Russian Football Union and a former long-standing Fifa executive committee member, labelled the England bid "primitive" and the situation as "comical".

The England bid team has accepted Mutko's attempt to make peace as an end to the affair, believing it vindicates their decision to complain formally to Fifa, despite the furore it has caused.

Mutko, who went over the head of his chief executive to bring an end to the dispute, said he couldn't be held responsible for everything that was written about the Russian bid but was willing to apologise for anything within his control that had offended his rivals.

"I can't control all the reports that are written," Mutko said. "As our classics say, you shouldn't read Bolshevik papers before lunch. I have great respect for the England bid and for Geoff Thompson. We like England and we hope England likes Russia. There are two English Premier League games shown every weekend in Russia."

Russia is widely acknowledged as the favourite to win the race to host the 2018 tournament, which has been thrown into chaos in the wake of newspaper allegations that led to the provisional suspension of two Fifa executive committee members and four officials. Russia's pitch has centred on its ability to leave a legacy for the game in a country that has never hosted the World Cup, while England has focused on its commercial clout and ability to grow the sport around the world.

"England could host the World Cup tomorrow," Mutko said. "But we have a vision and Fifa has a philosophy that is about trying to grow in new parts of the world. Football is already very popular in England. We hope that football can be as popular in Russia as it is in England."

Spain's joint bid with Portugal, rivals to Russia and England for the 2018 World Cup, yesterday moved to distance itself from allegations of vote trading with Qatar, which is battling the USA, Australia, South Korea and Japan to host the 2022 tournament.

"The Candidatura Iberica already told Fifa last Wednesday that it does not have any agreement with any other candidate and that I'm ready to work with Fifa to clear this matter up," said M'guel Angel López, general manager of the Iberian bid.

Fifa's ethics committee is examining the claims, along with bribery allegations concerning two executive committee members, Nigerian Amos Adamu and Oceania representative Reynald Tamerii, and four Fifa officials. It has promised to report by November 17, just two weeks before the vote on December 2.

It is understood that Fifa is expected to decide against postponing the vote for the 2022 World Cup until next year, after today's executive committee meeting. The plan will be discussed tomorrow, the second day of the two-day meeting.

Representatives from the bidders for 2022 felt that postponing the vote would have unfair implications for their budgets and strategies, though others, including some European members, argued it would help remove the fear of collusion between bidders for 2018 and 2022, a subject that will be discussed on the second day of the executive committee.

However, no decisions will be taken that would pre-empt the ethics committee investigation.
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Good article:

2018 Bid Is A Race Worth Losing

The vote to decide who will host the 2018 World Cup does not take place until 2 December. For the winners positively, and the losers negatively, the result of the FIFA ballot will set the agenda for the next eight years and more. Normally such votes are a winner-takes-all affair.

I have been to four World Cups in three continents, yet above all have wanted to see one in this country. Shabby defeat in the race to host the 2006 finals was a wrench. The more organised and more compelling 2018 bid raised my hopes and I was furious at those whose pettiness damaged England's chances. Yet this is now a race worth losing, one with a consolation prize worth having: the cleansing of football's high politics, the bringing low of any who would dirty the game.

Sunday newspapers have made two major interventions in the process. First, the Mail on Sunday's non-story assault on Lord Triesman, a Labour politician whose private life should not have been our concern but whose party allegiances made him fair game to a paper archly obsessed with sex when it works in its favour. Second, the Sunday Times's exposure to the cameras and recorders of men who deny wrongdoing but are certainly being scrutinised in a fresh light.

The events that enabled London to win the race to host the 2012 Olympics began years before the final decision, when the corruption at the heart of the International Olympic Committee's bidding process was revealed. Much in the manner that dope-testing is gradually removing the taint from athletics, London was allowed a clean run by the exposure of the bribery by which Salt Lake City won the right to stage the 2002 Winter Olympics.

The British role in exposing corruption within the IOC may have damaged the chances of previous British bids: work such as that of the investigative journalist Andrew Jennings, author of the 1992 Olympic investigation The Lords of the Rings, won the UK few friends in Lausanne. But once scandal broke out into the open and sponsors could no longer ignore it, some reform of the IOC was inevitable, enough as it turned out for London to come through against the odds.

The question now is, what will the gathering storm surrounding FIFA and the World Cup bidding process mean for England 2018?

Allegations against FIFA officials have been around as long as those against the IOC and have often been made by the same people: Jennings followed up The Lord of the Rings with Foul!: The Secret World of FIFA: Bribes, Vote Rigging and Ticket Scandals, which was pleasingly prominent in South African bookshops in the summer. But the charges have not quite stuck - thanks in part to questions of jurisdiction - and have usually come after the event. Invaluable as they have been, Jennings's forensic investigations were into what had happened, often years before. Questions, serious ones, have come up on the eve of votes, for tournaments and for the FIFA presidency. But not with such graphic evidence.

What is different this time, different from the Salt Lake City scandal - Utah still got its Winter Games - is that the Sunday Times's Insight team have got in first, ahead of December's vote for 2018 and 2022. The cosy world of FIFA has been thrown into chaos, with two executive committee members suspended along with four officials. Denials have been issued, but FIFA's ethics committee has had no choice but to launch the most important investigation of its kind football has ever faced.

Should that investigation lead to serious action, then those who want football politics to be open and fair will gain power and confidence. The scandals that have gone on unhindered may yet be brought to an end.

It may of course just be coincidence that so many international sporting bodies are based in Switzerland but, as the Sunday Times pointed out last weekend, the kind of undercover filming that enabled their investigation is illegal in Switzerland. Michael Zen-Ruffinen, the former FIFA general secretary who was shown last Sunday discussing the way to curry favour with this member, or that one, sought to suppress an investigation that was plainly in the public interest and which has been pursued vigorously by the paper. Meanwhile, Lord Triesman had no recourse after the Mail on Sunday used similar techniques to obtain pointless gossip, which the MoS only followed up to the extent that they persecuted Triesman.

The Mail on Sunday's investigation was a pointless distraction. England's problems with Russia this week over the bad-mouthing of bids are another distraction, though less unnecessary. Together they may play a part in England's bid coming up short, costing us friends. And perhaps the Sunday Times's revelations will cost us, too. But if the result is a process we can believe in, a cleaned-up game, and some seriously damaged FIFA delegates and officials, then it will have been worth it even if I have to get out my passport to go to the 2018 finals.

Philip Cornwall

PS: To Murdoch conspiracy theorists: I actually work for another, non-Murdoch Sunday paper, and have been observed doing so for eight years now

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Old October 29th, 2010, 03:50 PM   #358
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Nevertheless, the trolling gets tiresome when the majority are trying to have a reasonable discussion. It's just old.
To be fair, Mystery Mike is one of the biggest trolls of the lot. It's just that he's batting for "our" side, so to speak. Certainly, what Trelawney wrote wasn't nearly as trollish as his persistent denigration of both the Russian and Qatar bids and his "retard" comment to waqif.

So he's hardly in any position to get on his high horse about Trelawney's tongue in cheek comment. People in glass houses.....
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Just watched the FIFA Press conference
Sepp looked extremely uncomfortable.
The following came out of it
-The status quo will remain re Dec 2
-the 2 suspended ExCo's can't be replaced if they aren't reinstated
-it was a mistake to hold both at the same time
-EthCo meets on November 15,16,17 and announces its findings on Nov 17
-Mention of 2 or more bids being investigated re collusion

We just could be set for the biggest sham in FIFAs history
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(WFI) FIFA president Sepp Blatter confirms that the vote for both the 2018 and 2022 World Cup hosts will be held on Dec. 2, following speculation that the cash-for-votes scandal that has sent shockwaves through football would lead to a delay.

"We are five weeks from the final decision, so there was never a question of changing anything in the procedure," he told a news conference today.

Amid allegations of vote trading between two candidates in the 2018 and 2022 bid race, Blatter also said that the voting preferences of the FIFA Ex-co members in the secret ballot would not be published.

"This is something we cannot to... no please be realistic, thank you," a visibly annoyed Blatter said in answer to a reporter's question.

Blatter also confirmed that the FIFA Ethics Committee would meet Nov.15 to 17 to discuss the allegations facing suspended Exco members Amos Adamu and Reynald Temarii.

"The ethics committee will announce its final verdict on Nov.17," the FIFA chief said.

Asked what happens if the commission decides to extend the suspension of the Nigerian and Tahitian past Dec. 2, Blatter said: "They will not be replaced."

Should both Ex-co members under investigation be banned from FIFA's football activities beyond that date, it means only 22 committee members would participate in the 2018/2022 vote.

Blatter also conceded that the October 2008 decision made by FIFA to hold the vote on 2018 and 2022 on the same day was the wrong one.

"When we took this decision, we thought it was a good one. I take full responsibility," he said.

"I am now not convinced it was the right decision."

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