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View Poll Results: What European bid should be selected as host?
England 217 35.06%
Portugal & Spain 119 19.22%
Belgium & Netherlands 85 13.73%
Russia 198 31.99%
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Old November 19th, 2010, 09:02 PM   #521
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i guess that is Iberia will win.
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Although I voted for England in the poll.. I'd also like to see Belgium-Holland to win !

So, again :

Allez Belgique Allez !! Hup Holland Hup !!



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Old November 19th, 2010, 09:15 PM   #522
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Have you put the evaluation report on this thread?

http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/tour...eport_1911.pdf
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Old November 19th, 2010, 09:22 PM   #523
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Go to see the risks for every bids (Page 9).
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Old November 19th, 2010, 09:48 PM   #524
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Although I voted for England in the poll.. I'd also like to see Belgium-Holland to win !

So, again :

Allez Belgique Allez !! Hup Holland Hup !!

Look at the amount of risks for Holland/Belgium though Stadium construction, Stadium operations, Team facilities, Accommodation, Government Guarantees, Host City Agreements, Stadium Agreements, Training Site Agreements and overall legal risk are all medium, only Qatar which is a ridiculous bid all together has a worse bid rating.
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Old November 19th, 2010, 11:56 PM   #525
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Although I voted for England in the poll.. I'd also like to see Belgium-Holland to win !

So, again :

Allez Belgique Allez !! Hup Holland Hup !!

FIFA's president isn't Platini.i would remind to you.
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Old November 20th, 2010, 12:23 AM   #526
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FIFA's president isn't Platini.i would remind to you.
the report is useless to decide who will host the tournament, because the worst bids (that have the highest level of risk) will be chosen on 2dec. (russia for 2018 and qatar for 2022.)

what a waste of money and time! and paper!
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Old November 20th, 2010, 12:54 AM   #527
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the report is useless to decide who will host the tournament, because the worst bids (that have the highest level of risk) will be chosen on 2dec. (russia for 2018 and qatar for 2022.)

what a waste of money and time! and paper!
Russia is low risk and has a better report than England regarding hotel rooms, training venues, ... So I don't see how you derive Russia as a worst bid
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Old November 20th, 2010, 01:06 AM   #528
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Russia is low risk and has a better report than England regarding hotel rooms, training venues, ... So I don't see how you derive Russia as a worst bid

overall project:

england LOW risk
sp/po LOW
benelux LOW
RUSSIA MEDIUM

I remind you that I voted for Russia.
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Old November 20th, 2010, 01:17 AM   #529
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FIFA's president isn't Platini.i would remind to you.
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Old November 20th, 2010, 02:40 AM   #530
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Minor details.

The USSR however would score high risk on the scale of hooliganism. Excused by FIFA.
But Britain isn't really any lower on that scale
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Old November 20th, 2010, 03:02 AM   #531
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Look at the amount of risks for Holland/Belgium...........
Please !!
IMHO you should better to look after your tiny (and overpopulated) island !
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Old November 20th, 2010, 03:03 AM   #532
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Yes it is...hooliganism in this country is absolutely unrecognisable of the hooliganism of our past. Yes of course there will be occasional moments, as in all countries (I'm sure someone (probably Aleksey) will bring up the Millwall vs West Ham occasion as a sweeping generalisation), but throughout the entire football pyramid, English football is clean of hooliganism. When taking into account how well behaved English fans have been at the two previous World Cups how you can come to that conclusion is beyond me.

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Yes it is...hooliganism in this country is absolutely unrecognisable of the hooliganism of our past. Yes of course there will be occasional moments, as in all countries (I'm sure someone (probably Aleksey) will bring up the Millwall vs West Ham occasion as a sweeping generalisation), but throughout the entire football pyramid, English football is clean of hooliganism. When taking into account how well behaved English fans have been at the two previous World Cups how you can come to that conclusion is beyond me.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/10358426
The same you can say about Russians. I can remember some example of English hooligans on WC or EC, but none of Russians
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Yes it is...hooliganism in this country is absolutely unrecognisable of the hooliganism of our past. Yes of course there will be occasional moments, as in all countries (I'm sure someone (probably Aleksey) will bring up the Millwall vs West Ham occasion as a sweeping generalisation), but throughout the entire football pyramid, English football is clean of hooliganism. When taking into account how well behaved English fans have been at the two previous World Cups how you can come to that conclusion is beyond me.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/10358426
English clubs was banned by UEFA on FIVE years, in 1986-1990. No one European country (including the barbaric Russia - or USSR in your minds) has received such a humiliating punishment.
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Old November 20th, 2010, 12:08 PM   #535
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I think his point was that we've improved massively since the 80's, not that we weren't bad in the 80's, we were, of course, but we've improved massively, and we're now clean, at least cleaner than Italy, Russia, etc.
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Blatter recognises this and was effusive in his praise for England's development. If Rusky trolls don't it hardly matters.
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Old November 20th, 2010, 12:27 PM   #537
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Blatter recognises this and was effusive in his praise for England's development. If Rusky trolls don't it hardly matters.
I hope that the Britansky trolls finally shut up if they get their World Cup.
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Old November 20th, 2010, 12:37 PM   #538
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Blatter recognises this and was effusive in his praise for England's development. If Rusky trolls don't it hardly matters.
I find it odd that you call FIFA as "gang of corruptioners", but use Blatter's words as gospel.

Of course, the situation in England improved compared with the chaos of the 1980s. Hard punishment operates efficiently.
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Old November 20th, 2010, 12:52 PM   #539
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RobH is a provocator, please ignore him.
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Old November 20th, 2010, 01:01 PM   #540
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Unfortunately, European football hooliganism on a massive scale is primarily associated with Eastern Europe these days.
Strange that Poland and Ukraine are organizing EURO2012, with all hooliganism there.

So I don't see it as an argument why Russia wouldn't get the WC

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