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Old November 21st, 2010, 02:48 AM   #581
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Insult from someone? From me or from your compatriots? I'm absolutely sured that If such things were happened in Moscow, all Brits will post it and blame Russia as "barbaric state". Moreover, when a small riots were occurred in the last weekend after early Zenit's victory in the championship 2010, few English forumers (like British mass-media) have placed it here with the inscription "Welcome to Russia!"



I blame Robbie because after my post, he wrote in English thread that "All Russians are f*** s***" and intentionally loaded on a Russian thread somewhat derogatory images that (unlike the YouTube video from London) has nothing to do with reality. He has insulted the entire country! Moreover, previously he used words "F*** YOU" for other forumers.
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Old November 21st, 2010, 02:57 AM   #582
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What reason? .
Its your whole approach to this forum over a long period
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Old November 21st, 2010, 03:03 AM   #583
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...nnabis-16.html

Britain tops European league for abuse as 'half our children try cannabis by 16'
By Matthew Hickley
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Comments (16) Add to My Stories Cocaine costs less than a pint in some areas (posed by model)
Almost half of schoolchildren have smoked cannabis by 16 - the highest proportion of any European country, a UN report has revealed.
Forty-four per cent of Britons aged 15 to 16 admit experimenting with the drug, compared with fewer than 10 per cent in Greece, Sweden and Norway.
Embarrassingly for the Government, the UN report reveals that the proportion has risen since 2003 when a survey was conducted shortly before Labour relaxed the law on cannabis.
It was downgraded from class B to class C, meaning few users faced arrest if caught with it.
Yesterday the head of the UN's main international drugs agency condemned the policy - which was reversed by ministers last month.
Professor Hamid Ghodse, president of the International Narcotics Control Board (INCB), said softer laws on cannabis had 'given the wrong message to young people in the UK and around the world'.
The Government bowed to pressure to toughen the law amid growing evidence of the link between mental illness and cannabis.
But the UN report shows that the five years during which the law was relaxed coincided with a sharp rise in the number of teenagers experimenting with cannabis.
In 2003, 38 per cent of 15 to 16-year-olds in Britain had tried it.
Other states with levels over 30 per cent are France, Spain, Ireland and the Czech Republic.
Cannabis is 'the most widely abused drug in Europe', according to the INCB's annual report, with around 71million users of 15 to 64. The Home Office British Crime Survey shows 7.4 per cent of adults in Britain admit using cannabis within the past 12 months, equivalent to 2.4million people.
The proportion of schoolchildren who admitted using the drug within the last 12 months fell slightly from 13.4 per cent in 2001 to 9.4 per cent in 2007.
However the number of under-16s being hospitalised due to drug abuse has leapt by almost 50 per cent since Labour took office.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz15rVQHG4b

The UK policymakers should try to resolve these problems first.

Well look who it is. Have you filled the holes in in your athletics track yet?
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Old November 21st, 2010, 03:35 AM   #584
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It's a bit offtopic, but I'll answer.

I don't mean the formal part of the ceremonies (hymns, the parade of nations, the lighting of the Olympic torch, the oath of athletes and judges, speeches of officials, etc.), but the part of show, which is based on national traditions of hosting states (national dances, historic motives). It was firstly performed in Moscow, not in Berlin and Montreal.

Thus, after Moscow, this "national" part has become an inherent part of the ceremony.
Aleksey, you're absolutely wrong. Don't try to FOOL someone who has been watching summer Olympic opening Ceremonies since 1968 . The "artistic" portion has always been INCLUDED BeFORE the "protocol portions." It has always been inscribed in the Olympic charter that the host nation is allowed AND encouraged to highlight its culture before the "protocol parts" (those are the parts you describe as 'swearing' of the oaths, etc.)

Also, Los Angeles 1932 (being in Hollywood, of course) had a 10-minute 'artistic; show at the beginning (but no footage exists). For the Winters, and just from a chronological POV, Squaw Valley 1960 was the first of the Winters because Walt Disney was enlisted to take charge of Ceremonies then.

So plrease refrain being Russian for a minute and stop rewriting Olympic history BASED on Russian view of things!!

Read the definitive source on Olympic ceremonies by Myles Garcia, SECRETS OF THE OLYMPIC CEREMONIES: http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss...pic+ceremonies

It's all THERE!!

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Old November 21st, 2010, 03:39 AM   #585
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Mods haven't got the time to "babysit these threads" apparently...
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Old November 21st, 2010, 04:52 AM   #586
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Yes, I heard about it. Americans, Brits and other "peace-loving" Western states have protested against Soviet aggression in Afghanistan. How it sweet!
Hey, France was there !!!!!! (under the Olympic Flag, indeed.. but still)



P.S Thanks for the Misha's "das vi danya" video, because I forgot about that...... (it was simply AWESOME ! )

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Old November 21st, 2010, 06:28 AM   #587
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If the World Cup 2018 gets Russia. Schedule will look like this...



SCHEDULE

8 June (Friday)
18:00 RUSSIA – A2 (ST. PETERSBURG)
21:00 A3 – A4 (YAROSLAVL)

9 June (Saturday)
15:30 C1 – C2 (MOSCOW, Luzhniki)
18:00 B1 – B2 (SOCHI)
21:00 B3-B4 (ROSTOV-ON-DON)

10 June (Sunday)
15:30 D1 – D2 (YEKATERINBURG)
18:00 C3 – C4 (MOSCOW, VTB Arena)
21:00 D3 – D4 (KAZAN)

11 June (Monday)
15:30 E3 – E4 (PODOLSK)
18:00 E1 – E2 (KALININGRAD)
21:00 F1 – F2 (KRASNODAR)

12 June (Tuesday)
15:30 G1 – G2 (NIZHNY NOVGOROD)
18:00 H1 – H2 (ST. PETERSBURG)
21:00 F3 – F4 (ROSTOV-ON-DON)

13 June (Wednesday)
15:30 H3 – H4 (YAROSLAVL)
18:00 G3 – G4 (KAZAN)
21:00 RUSSIA – A3 (MOSCOW, Luzhniki)

14 June (Thursday)
15:30 A2 – A4 (MOSCOW, VTB Arena)
18:00 B1 – B3 (SOCHI)
21:00 B2 – B4 (KRASNODAR)

15 June (Friday)
15:30 C1 – C3 (PODOLSK)
18:00 C2 – C4 (KALININGRAD)
21:00 D1 – D3 (YEKATERINBURG)

16 June (Saturday)
15:30 E2 – E4 (ST. PETERSBURG)
18:00 E1 – E3 (MOSCOW, Luzhniki)
21:00 F1 –F3 (ROSTOV-ON-DON)

17 June (Sunday)
15:30 D2 – D4 (NIZHNY NOVGOROD)
18:00 G1 – G3 (KAZAN)
21:00 F2 –F4 (SOCHI)

18 June (Monday)
15:30 H2 –H4 (PODOLSK)
18:00 G2 – G4 (YEKATERINBURG)
21:00 H1 – H3 (YAROSLAVL)

19 June (Tuesday)
18:00 B1 – B4 (KRASNODAR)
18:00 B2 – B3 (ROSTOV-ON-DON)
21:00 RUSSIA – A4 (MOSCOW, Luzhniki)
21:00 A2 – A3 (ST. PETERSBURG)

20 June (Wednesday)
18:00 C1 – C4 (MOSCOW, VTB Arena)
18:00 C2 – C3 (KALININGRAD)
21:00 D1 – D4 (NIZHNY NOVGOROD)
21:00 D2 – D3 (KAZAN)

21 June (Thursday)
18:00 E1 – E4 (PODOLSK)
18:00 E2 – E3 (YAROSLAVL)
21:00 F1 –F4 (SOCHI)
21:00 F2 – F3 (ROSTOV-ON-DON)

22 June (Friday)
18:00 G1 – G4 (YEKATERINBURG)
18:00 G2 – G3 (NIZHNY NOVGOROD)
21:00 H1 – H4 (MOSCOW, VTB Arena)
21:00 H2 – H3 (ST. PETERSBURG)

23 June (Saturday)
18:00 1-A – 2-B (MOSCOW, Luzhniki) M1
21:00 1-B – 2-A (KRASNODAR) M2

24 June (Sunday)
18:00 1-C – 2-D (KALININGRAD) M3
21:00 1-D – 2-C (KAZAN) M4

25 June (Monday)
18:00 1-E – 2-F (YAROSLAVL) M5
21:00 1-F – 2-E (SOCHI) M6

26 June (Tuesday)
18:00 1-G – 2-H (NIZHNY NOVGOROD) M7
21:00 1-H – 2-G (ST. PETERSBURG) M8

29 June (Friday)
18:00 M1 – M3 (MOSCOW, Luzhniki) M9
21:00 M2 – M4 (KAZAN) M10

30 June (Saturday)
18:00 M5 – M7 (MOSCOW, VTB Arena) M11
21:00 M6 – M8 (ST. PETERSBURG) M12

3 July (Tuesday)
21:00 1st SEMIFINAL M9 – M11 (MOSCOW, Luzhniki)

4 July (Wednesday)
21:00 2st SEMIFINAL M10 – M12 (ST. PETERSBURG)

7 July (Saturday)
21:00 MATCH FOR THIRD POSITION (KALININGRAD)

8 July (Sunday)
21:00 FINAL (MOSCOW, Luzhniki)

STADIUMS

MOSCOW, BIG SPORTS ARENA LUZHNIKI, CAPACITY - 89318
MOSCOW, VTB ARENA, CAPACITY - 44920
PODOLSK, VITYAZ ARENA, CAPACITY - 44257
ST. PETERSBURG, GAZPROM ARENA, CAPACITY - 69501
KAZAN, KAZAN ARENA, CAPACITY - 45105
NIZHNY NOVGOROD, VOLGA ARENA, CAPACITY - 44899
YEKATERINBURG, SINARA ARENA, CAPACITY - 44130
SOCHI, OLYMPIC STADIUM, CAPACITY - 47659
KRASNODAR, KUBAN ARENA, CAPACITY - 50015
ROSTOV-ON-DON, DON ARENA, CAPACITY - 43703
YAROSLAVL, CENTRAL STADIUM, CAPACITY - 44042
KALININGRAD, BALTIKA ARENA, CAPACITY – 45015
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Fake. Podolsk is not in the bid.
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Old November 21st, 2010, 09:52 AM   #589
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labytnangi, you are wrong. Volgograd is 100% to host WC.
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Old November 21st, 2010, 10:11 AM   #590
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Can you please post the teams involved in that schedule
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Old November 21st, 2010, 10:52 AM   #591
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Although I voted for England in the poll.. I'd also like to see Belgium-Holland to win !

So, again :

Allez Belgique Allez !! Hup Holland Hup !!

I'll join the cheering squad. I realise the odds are slim, but you never know. It's now or never for us. We're too small to host a major event on our own so we'll never get to host the Olympics. And after all the effort that went into this bid, there won't be another one after this.
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Old November 21st, 2010, 11:01 AM   #592
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Well look who it is. Have you filled the holes in in your athletics track yet?
Hehe, I remember the classic times in about June when antrishk spent his entire time making bitter and thoroughly meaningless comments criticising the preparations of other country's big events, for example London 2012, and just generally acting like a nasty person, without ever thinking to comment about his own country. And he was bitten in the face for it, thanks to Dehli 2010. As much as I didn't want it to fail, I gained a lot of satisfaction from seeing the irony in it.
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Old November 21st, 2010, 01:25 PM   #593
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I've been told on three occassions by a couple of mods that he's a hair's breadth away from a ban on this forum. He can continue to post articles like the one he posted on the previous page if he likes...up to him I guess.
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Old November 21st, 2010, 02:47 PM   #594
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Fake. Podolsk is not in the bid.
And the opening match will be at Luzniki stadium.

After athletic world chamionship in Moscow 2013, Sochi 2014, this the time for RUSSIA 2018.

C'm on russian friend.
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Fake. Podolsk is not in the bid.
Podolsk it is suburb of Moscow like Twickenham in London
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labytnangi, you are wrong. Volgograd is 100% to host WC.
I doubt it. I think more preferred Samara...
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Old November 21st, 2010, 03:49 PM   #597
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There is 40km between center of Moscow and center of Podolsk. Of course it's a nearest suburb of Moscow, but when when it comes to british/qatar scale - that's pretty much a lot. It's like between Liverpool and Manchester, or between Leeds and Manchester, or between Birmingham and Nottingham, or Manchester and Sheffield.

There are 6 stadiums within 100km radius from Manchester. So why bashing (not you, but most of british and australian bid supporters here) Moscow and Qatar on this?
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I know, but Podolsk came out from the bid. 4th stadium in Moscow region (3 in Moscow) will be near MKAD on the south.
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There is 40km between center of Moscow and center of Podolsk. Of course it's a nearest suburb of Moscow, but when when it comes to british/qatar scale - that's pretty much a lot. It's like between Liverpool and Manchester, or between Leeds and Manchester, or between Birmingham and Nottingham, or Manchester and Sheffield.

There are 6 stadiums within 100km radius from Manchester. So why bashing (not you, but most of british and australian bid supporters here) Moscow and Qatar on this?
What can we do? Russia such a big country! In this aspect England has the advantage. But from the center of Moscow to Podolsk ride on the express train 26 minutes. it's fast enough ...
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There is 40km between center of Moscow and center of Podolsk. Of course it's a nearest suburb of Moscow, but when when it comes to british/qatar scale - that's pretty much a lot. It's like between Liverpool and Manchester, or between Leeds and Manchester, or between Birmingham and Nottingham, or Manchester and Sheffield.

There are 6 stadiums within 100km radius from Manchester. So why bashing (not you, but most of british and australian bid supporters here) Moscow and Qatar on this?
Nobody has bashed Moscow as far as I'm aware.

But whilst England is a small country it is proposing multiple cities each with their own transport hubs, logistical operations, venues etc. Each hosts tens of thousands of fans every week, proven Premier League grounds with no question marks over capability

Qatar's bid is on another scale of compactness altogether, to the point where it becomes detrminental, and becuase few of the stadiums exist, there is an element of the unknown.

And that's not "bashing"; FIFA themselves in their technical report have raised question marks over the logistics of Qatar's ultra-compact bid. Dependence on a single airport, simply not enough training facilities in the city and those planned are criticised ("teams should be provided with more than one pitch"), transport not in place at this time, "playing up to four matches within a 30km radius in one day could present operational risks", segregation and ticketing would be under immense pressure, more than half of the accommodation is yet to be built etc

The comparison simply doesn't hold true.
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