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View Poll Results: What European bid should be selected as host?
England 217 35.06%
Portugal & Spain 119 19.22%
Belgium & Netherlands 85 13.73%
Russia 198 31.99%
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Old October 3rd, 2009, 06:41 PM   #61
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Old October 3rd, 2009, 07:21 PM   #62
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Of all great football nations the Netherlands-Belgium (The Low Countries) bid is the only candidate that really deserves 2018. England got it's WC already in 1966 and Spain in 1982.

The Netherlands national football team is one of the best teams around (ranked 2nd on both FIFA and Elo-ranking), It won Euro 88 and reached two consecutive World Cup finals in 1974 and 1978 but lost both finals to their respective host nations, West Germany and Argentina. Wouldn't it be strange to be the only great football nation NOT to have organized a WC??

With a lot of new stadium development in both countries and their proven organisational skills (Euro 2000), it seems like a very logical choice to me....
Netherlands' style of football is irrelevant. England could just as easily say that they deserve to host World Cup 2018 because of all the things that they have contributed to the game (including having given the game to the world!). But that would also be irrelevant.

As to England having already hosted the World Cup before, that won't count against them. After all, Italy (1934 & 1990), France (1938 & 1998), Brazil (1950 & 2014), Mexico (1970 & 1986) and Germany (1974 & 2006) will all have hosted two World Cups by 2018.

So why not England?

In 2018, it will have been 52 years since England last hosted the World Cup. By then, the vast majority of England's population won't have been alive in 1966 or they will, like me (six months old at the time!), have been too young to have been aware that there was a World Cup. So hosting the World Cup in 2018 will be every bit as much a new experience for us as it will for the people of Holland and Belgium if they win the right to be hosts.

So the decision will come down purely to the quality of all the European bids (including Russia and Iberia) and how well each of the bidding countries plays the political game.
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Old October 3rd, 2009, 07:28 PM   #63
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Teams on group round will play in clusters:

North-West: Kaliningrad, St. Petersburg - 820 km;
Central: Moscow, Podolsk (Moscow Region) - 37 km;
Volga: Yaroslavl, Nizhni Novgorod, Kazan, Samara, Saransk, Volgograd - 285, 330, 290, 350, 615 km;
South: Rostov-on-Don, Krasnodar, Sochi - 250, 170 km.
So, 1-3 hours on high-speed train.

To campare - distance between Warsaw and Kiev - 685 km (EURO 2012). Manaus - Cuiabá - 1470 km, Brasilia - Rio - 900 km (Brasil 2014).




Kalingrad will host it?? That is very interesting! A city that is part of a Russia enclave. I liked it!! BTW, it will be the closest western europe host city.
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Old October 3rd, 2009, 07:30 PM   #64
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Old October 3rd, 2009, 07:38 PM   #65
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For me will it always be:

2018: Europe
2022: Asia/Pacific
2024: South America
2028: Africa
2032: Europe
2036: North America
2040: South America
2044: Asia/Pacif
2048: Europe


But I dont belive that this rotation policy will remain much longger.. When Blater leaves the FIFA presidency, I think will be again all bids from anywhere.
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Old October 3rd, 2009, 07:40 PM   #66
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I'm from Portugal but England 2018.
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Old October 3rd, 2009, 07:46 PM   #67
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2022.

Qatar - funny and REALLY not serious (they have like four cities total, total capacity of stadium would be bigger than countries population, and who would play football under 40 degrees Celsius - but I don't have anything against Qatar as country, only I am against their bid - would be better to bid for Basketball world cup).
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I feel the same way about it. But I think Qatar could bid as a join bid with other Arab Small Countries like UAE, Bahrein, Kwait, Oman and maybe even Saudi Arabia. Host Cities would be:

UAE: Dubai and Abu Dhabi
Oman: Mascat
Qatar: Doha
Bahrein: Manama
Kuwait: Kuwait
Saudi Arabia: Riyad, Jiddah
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Old October 3rd, 2009, 07:50 PM   #68
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Australia 2022!
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Old October 3rd, 2009, 10:25 PM   #69
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For me will it always be:

2018: Europe
2022: Asia/Pacific
2024: South America
2028: Africa
2032: Europe
2036: North America
2040: South America
2044: Asia/Pacif
2048: Europe
Your years are a bit off. It seems silly to give Africa some so close together when North America will not have had it in forever. I think it should be:
2014: South America (Brazil)
2018: Europe (England)
2022: Asia/Pacific (Australia)
2026: North America (Mexico)
2030: South America
2034: Europe
2038: Asia
2042: Africa
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Old October 4th, 2009, 05:42 AM   #70
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Kalingrad will host it?? That is very interesting! A city that is part of a Russia enclave. I liked it!! BTW, it will be the closest western europe host city.
Exclave actually lol.

Just read it on wiki a couple of days ago.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enclave
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Old October 4th, 2009, 08:53 AM   #71
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The new site is on!!

http://www.qatar2022bid.com/
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Old October 4th, 2009, 08:56 AM   #72
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Your years are a bit off. It seems silly to give Africa some so close together when North America will not have had it in forever. I think it should be:
2014: South America (Brazil)
2018: Europe (England)
2022: Asia/Pacific (Australia)
2026: North America (Mexico)
2030: South America
2034: Europe
2038: Asia
2042: Africa
Yes, I forgot.

2018: Europe
2022: Asia/Pacific
2026: South America
2030: North America
2034: Europe
2038: Africa
2042: South America
2046: Asia/Pacif
2050: Europe
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Old October 4th, 2009, 09:15 AM   #73
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Yes, I forgot.

2018: Europe
2022: Asia/Pacific
2026: South America
2030: North America
2034: Europe
2038: Africa
2042: South America
2046: Asia/Pacif
2050: Europe
2050, doesn't look like.. too early to think?
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Old October 4th, 2009, 11:08 AM   #74
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Yes, I forgot.

2018: Europe
2022: Asia/Pacific
2026: South America
2030: North America
2034: Europe
2038: Africa
2042: South America
2046: Asia/Pacif
2050: Europe
Europe needs to host one of every three World Cups. Because of their influence in FIFA it will happen and because Europe accounts for nearly 1/3 of FIFA countries, it makes sense. Also, why would the World Cup go back to Asia 20 years after they last had it and to South American only 12 years later when North America is forced to wait 36 years?
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Old October 4th, 2009, 04:50 PM   #75
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I hate doing this kind of predictions.. I always miss somethng. My point: South America and Europe should host on of every three World Cups. Africa, North America and Asia/PAcif should host the other years.

For instance:

Europe
Asia
South America
Europe
North America
South America
Europe
Africa
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Old October 4th, 2009, 05:07 PM   #76
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Europe should definately host at least every third, South America not.
They have 4 or 5 nations in a WC, Europe has 13.
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Old October 4th, 2009, 06:32 PM   #77
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Indonesia Goes to WC 2022

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Old October 4th, 2009, 06:36 PM   #78
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Preparing to Host of Green World Cup 2022 - New Stadium

Gedebage Stadium, Bandung City


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Old October 4th, 2009, 06:43 PM   #79
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The Holland Belgium Bid

STADIONS

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Nederland

HEERENVEEN - Abe Lenstra Stadion - 26.800



Expansion: The stadium wants to upgrade to 40 to 45.000 seats.

ENSCHEDE - De Grolsch Veste - 24.000



Expansion: The stadium wants 44.000 seats for the World Cup.

EINDHOVEN - Philips Stadion - 35.000



Expansion: The stadium is trying to find a way to expand to 42.000 seats.

AMSTERDAM - Amsterdam ArenA - 51.628



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Expension: Amsterdam wants to expand the ArenA to approx. 80.000 seats.

ROTTERDAM - Nieuwe Kuip - 87.000(?)



Expans: This stadion has not been built yet.
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België

BRUGGE - Loppern Stadion(?) - 40.000



Expanson: This stadium hasn't been built yet.

GENT - Arteveldestadion - 20.000



Expansion: This stadium is now u/c and will open in the season of 2010-2011.

ANTWERPEN - The Port of Antwerp Stadium - 25.000



Expansion: This stadium hasn't been built yet, but if it will it will have space over to expand to 45.000 seats.

GENK - Cristal Arena - 24.604



Expansion: If NL & BE will host the World Cup this stadium will get a facelift and probably expand to 45.000 seats.

BRUSSEL - Nieuw Stadion - 65.000



Expansion: Brussels wants to expand the old stadium or built a new one.

LUIK - Nieuw Stadion - ??????



Expansion: The club Standar wants a new stadium.

CHARLEROI - Nieuw Stadion - ???????



Expansion: The club Sporting needs a new stadium.
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Old October 4th, 2009, 06:59 PM   #80
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I hate doing this kind of predictions.. I always miss somethng. My point: South America and Europe should host on of every three World Cups. Africa, North America and Asia/PAcif should host the other years.
I agree that Europe should have it quite frequently, but South America has few teams and they've already hosted it many times. It's sort of like Rio's bid for the Olympics, spread the World Cup around to new(er) countries that haven't traditionally been huge football nations (including but not only the US). Europe and South America have been very successful and reliable at staging games, but I think they should give Asia, Africa, and N. America the WC a little bit more often.
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