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Old May 26th, 2009, 11:21 PM   #21
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For location that might be subjective, as one person may think a stadium in the suburbs with car access is better than a stadium in the centre with public transport access??

Personally public transport access is better for me, but others may differ...
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Old May 26th, 2009, 11:23 PM   #22
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Public Transportation is huge. It might need to be subjective because in America we like to drive to our games and tailgate in the parking lot around the stadium.
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Old May 26th, 2009, 11:26 PM   #23
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tail what..?
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Old May 26th, 2009, 11:31 PM   #24
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Maybe lets start with a benchmark.

e.g. and just an example! Allianz Arena gets 100 points!
All other stadia based on various factors are either rated above or below that benchmark.

Not suggesting Allianz is the best but one has to start somewhere.
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Old May 26th, 2009, 11:38 PM   #25
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tailgate! Gather around outside the stadium behind your car or truck. get drunk, cook food and get ready for the game!









Thats America. Our Arenas are more based around public transportation.
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Old May 26th, 2009, 11:41 PM   #26
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unbelievably american lol!
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Old May 26th, 2009, 11:43 PM   #27
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Maybe lets start with a benchmark.

e.g. and just an example! Allianz Arena gets 100 points!
All other stadia based on various factors are either rated above or below that benchmark.

Not suggesting Allianz is the best but one has to start somewhere.
why does it get 100 points? we need a way for the stadium to accumulate their points.
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Old May 26th, 2009, 11:43 PM   #28
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Maybe lets start with a benchmark.

e.g. and just an example! Allianz Arena gets 100 points!
All other stadia based on various factors are either rated above or below that benchmark.

Not suggesting Allianz is the best but one has to start somewhere.
That's not a bad idea. Do it as a value added, value taken away from sort of system.

That is it is still marked out of ten, but starts at -5 rather than 0. Every stadium gets an automatic score of 100, then good stadiums are above 100, and bad stadiums are below??

You lose marks for negative aspects and gain marks for positive aspects.
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Old May 26th, 2009, 11:43 PM   #29
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unbelievably american lol!
we are starting to do it for Soccer too. Wait till the Next world cup is held over here. It will be a new pre soccer game tradition!
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Old May 26th, 2009, 11:46 PM   #30
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what day they do in city centre (downtown) stadiums?? tailgate on public transport?
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Old May 26th, 2009, 11:50 PM   #31
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??? what?

We tailgate before the games.
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Old May 26th, 2009, 11:54 PM   #32
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yeah if you go to a game in the city centre you go by public transport no?

or do they have a tailgate in the suburbs then board the train for the centre?
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Old May 27th, 2009, 12:48 AM   #33
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Size (Set Number for size value)
Location (Distance from large Metropolis, parking, road access, Public transportation access)
View Lines (Fan opinion)
Usage (Scheduling future and past)
Atmosphere (Fan Opinion)
Elements (how does the stadium adapt to changing climates and weather; roof, warm region, semi covered fan area, retractable roof)
Movement (how easy is it to get to the bathrooms, vending, exits, are there enough of all those to be convenient)
Luxury (How many suites, size of suites, locations of suites and use of club level seating)
Surface (Real v Fake and maintenance of real and playing speed of fake)
Icon (Is the stadium a symbol or just another stop on the schedule)
History (Years built, mega events hosted)

Thats a pretty neat. "Movement" can be changed to accessibility. Also, if we rate every one of it from 0-10, we have 110, they are 11, we must make some changes and leave one out
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Old May 27th, 2009, 01:05 AM   #34
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atmosphere is irrelevant to how good the stadium is as that depends on the fans...
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Old May 27th, 2009, 01:17 AM   #35
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atmosphere is irrelevant to how good the stadium is as that depends on the fans...
The other thing is that for example how people from Asia are going to vote for a stadium like for example Aztec stadium about transportation when they never been in mexico city?
Not a lot of people knows that you can take the subway and then you have to take train to get to the stadium.
That applies to the same for me for example, how can i vote for Lushniki Stadium in Moscow on transport or location when i have never been to Moscow..

it is just an idea..
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Old May 27th, 2009, 01:21 AM   #36
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Apparently every stadium should have a presentation. Then we copy paste the list and everyone gives the score. After a set amount of post, the thread starter posts the results (?) But there are so many that its impossible. We should just make a thread for each stadium type (?)
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Old May 27th, 2009, 01:26 AM   #37
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These are the catagories I judge stadiums by:

-interior architecture
-exterior architecture
-Site lines
-fan amenities (scoreboards, ect)
-comfort (# or restrooms, are the concorses wide enough to handle a capacity crowd, ect)
-Bonus points (parking lots for tailgating, public transport access, ect)
-negitive points for roofs or retractable roofs on american football stadiums

Not important: size, location, usage.
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Old May 27th, 2009, 01:36 AM   #38
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atmosphere is irrelevant to how good the stadium is as that depends on the fans...
not necessarily
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Old May 27th, 2009, 01:57 AM   #39
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yeah if you go to a game in the city centre you go by public transport no?

or do they have a tailgate in the suburbs then board the train for the centre?
Fans often do park in a more remote location and take public transit to the games, but I haven't heard of anybody tailgating before doing so.

If a stadium is located within the urban core, there will be a mix of parking/tailgating and some people riding public transit.

If a stadium is located on the outskirts of the city and/or in an area with little or no public transportation, there will be a LOT more tailgating.

Tailgating is mainly an NFL and college football phenomenon, where, with only 8 home dates during the regular season (and anywhere from 5-8 in college), each game is a big event--for other sports that play a lot more games during the regular season--mainly, MLB (~80 home games), NBA and NHL (~40 home games each), tailgating is much, much less frequent, and due to a majority of arenas and baseball stadiums being located within the urban core, a lot of fans take public transportation.
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Old May 27th, 2009, 02:09 AM   #40
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What's "tailgating"
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