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Old May 27th, 2009, 02:47 AM   #41
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Fans often do park in a more remote location and take public transit to the games, but I haven't heard of anybody tailgating before doing so.

If a stadium is located within the urban core, there will be a mix of parking/tailgating and some people riding public transit.

If a stadium is located on the outskirts of the city and/or in an area with little or no public transportation, there will be a LOT more tailgating.

Tailgating is mainly an NFL and college football phenomenon, where, with only 8 home dates during the regular season (and anywhere from 5-8 in college), each game is a big event--for other sports that play a lot more games during the regular season--mainly, MLB (~80 home games), NBA and NHL (~40 home games each), tailgating is much, much less frequent, and due to a majority of arenas and baseball stadiums being located within the urban core, a lot of fans take public transportation.
you're from KC, right? There are always fans tailgating at royals games, even with 80 of em. About once a week I'm out there BBQing and throwing a football.
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Old May 27th, 2009, 03:07 AM   #42
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you're from KC, right? There are always fans tailgating at royals games, even with 80 of em. About once a week I'm out there BBQing and throwing a football.
I know, Kauffman is one of the few exceptions--tailgating isn't quite as strong as at the Chiefs games, but walking to the stadium I definitely see my fair share of BBQ grills and beanbag toss games.
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Old May 27th, 2009, 04:46 AM   #43
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I dont get paid enough to really put this all together. Of my list we can get rid of Icon because that and History is the same thing.
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Old May 27th, 2009, 05:58 AM   #44
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What's "tailgating"
Its a a large gathering of people who grill, talk and have fun before a sporting event. Bring your own food, beer and anything else you want to have a good time. Named after the tailgate of a truck, which is how most people bring all this stuff to the parking lot.

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Old May 27th, 2009, 10:33 AM   #45
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Its a a large gathering of people who grill, talk and have fun before a sporting event. Bring your own food, beer and anything else you want to have a good time. Named after the tailgate of a truck, which is how most people bring all this stuff to the parking lot.

I don't think this is even legal here.
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Old May 27th, 2009, 10:28 PM   #46
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only American stadiums are surrounded by the parking lots big enough to do it in.
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Old May 28th, 2009, 12:36 AM   #47
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you would need more subjective rating then objective. Atmosphere and View Lines are the objective. Size is Subjective and will have set standards.

Size:
75,000 - 100,00+ = 5
50,000 - 74,999 = 4
35,000 - 49,999 = 3
20,000 - 34,999 = 2
10,000 - 19,999 = 1
1 - 9,999 = 0
lol, dude... you know you could've just put 75,000+?
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Old May 28th, 2009, 01:04 AM   #48
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lol, dude... you know you could've just put 75,000+?
The size doesn't even really give much of any info about the quality of a stadium.
The Olympiastadium in Berlin or the zentralstadion in Leipzig for example are way to big for their tennants to have a great atmosphere.
An oversized stadium is one of the biggest burdens a club may have to deal with, because an oversized stadium basically guarantees for a poor antmosphere and high maintenance cost or stadium rent. A good indicator for a rating would much rather be how full a stadium is in the average.
And then you still need to deal with stadia that are too small for the demand.
The size of the stadium alone is just a number which is only interesting in a "bigger is better" contest, but not more.
A good stadium barely meets the full demand of places and still is crowded on average matchdays. That's the optimum, not making a stadium as big as possible. Many clubs do suffer severely from having oversized venues and often even to a dramatic extend. Not rarely even leeding as far as into the clubs and /or the stadium owners bankruptcy.
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Old May 28th, 2009, 08:18 AM   #49
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lol, dude... you know you could've just put 75,000+?
true. I was on a personal high from creating the list.
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Old May 28th, 2009, 09:20 AM   #50
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Anyway lets start with some A+ rating venues (runs for cover!)

Allianz Arena
Wembley Stadium
Berlin Olympiastadion
Stade de France
Telstra Stadium
Estádio da Luz
Emirates Stadium
Millennium Stadium
Soldier Field
Olympiastadion Berlin
City of Manchester Stadium
Amsterdam Arena
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Old May 28th, 2009, 09:22 AM   #51
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Anyway lets start with some A+ rating venues (runs for cover!)

Allianz Arena
Wembley Stadium
Berlin Olympiastadion
Stade de France
Telstra Stadium
Estádio da Luz
Emirates Stadium
Millennium Stadium
Soldier Field
Olympiastadion Berlin
City of Manchester Stadium
Amsterdam Arena
I agree with all of those, and I'd add Saitama Stadium, Seoul World Cup Stadium, Qwest Field and Celtic Park.
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Old May 28th, 2009, 09:27 AM   #52
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No Etihad Stadium or MCG????????
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Old May 28th, 2009, 09:45 AM   #53
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No Etihad Stadium or MCG????????
MCG...uh no.
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Old May 28th, 2009, 10:05 AM   #54
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MCG...uh no.
Well the MCG is a damn sight better and BIGGER than most of the stadiums on your list.
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Old May 28th, 2009, 11:45 AM   #55
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Maybe lets start with a benchmark.

e.g. and just an example! Allianz Arena gets 100 points!

Allianz Arena is on the edge of nowhere, you have to walk allmost a mile from the underground station to the entrance, the inside of the stadium is nothing but grey.....
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Old May 28th, 2009, 11:54 AM   #56
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Well the MCG is a damn sight better and BIGGER than most of the stadiums on your list.
if you say so.
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Old May 28th, 2009, 01:22 PM   #57
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Porto stadium??!
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Anyway lets start with some A+ rating venues (runs for cover!)

Allianz Arena
Wembley Stadium
Berlin Olympiastadion
Stade de France
Telstra Stadium
Estádio da Luz
Emirates Stadium
Millennium Stadium
Soldier Field
Olympiastadion Berlin
City of Manchester Stadium
Amsterdam Arena
Add New Orleans Superdome, Land Shark Stadium (Dolphin Stadium) and Lambough (History makes it great)


Are we adding baseball stadiums to this as well?

If so... Dodger Field, Wrigley, Fenway.
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Old May 29th, 2009, 12:13 AM   #59
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It's pretty pointless to rate stadium when the opinion are so dispersive. We will never agree on subjects like roofs, transportation and size. That, however, would be necessary to compare stadiums in different parts of the world.
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Old May 29th, 2009, 12:21 AM   #60
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I'd take Wembley off.

Its a nice stadium but its a football stadium, and as that it represents everything what is wrong with English football.

Take it off the list.
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