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Old October 2nd, 2009, 11:47 AM   #1
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Brent Cross London £4.5bn Regeneration | Barnet | Approved



Am I right in thinking there is no Brent Cross thread?



It has a five-billion-pound budget, so it's hardly excluded on size grounds.

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Old October 2nd, 2009, 12:15 PM   #2
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It would be helpful if you posted more details, i.e. links, recent news story, construction status.
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Old October 2nd, 2009, 12:46 PM   #3
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A summary:
Brent Cross is the area along both sides of the A406 North Circular Road, between the A5 Edgware Road and the M1 Motorway in the west, and the A41 Hendon Way in the east.

As of 2009, it is subject to a planning application for extensive redevelopment:
http://www.brentcrosscricklewood.com
http://www.barnet.gov.uk/index/envir...ricklewood.htm

On 15 September, Barnet recommended approval of the application, in a report to its 23 September Planning Committee, later postponed to a meeting in three weeks time, on 20 October.

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Old October 3rd, 2009, 12:54 PM   #4
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So is the area a complete dump to warrant £5bn of redevelopment?
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Old October 3rd, 2009, 02:07 PM   #5
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wasnt there a 216m tower envisioned for this area? Perhaps not this site, however
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Old October 4th, 2009, 02:51 PM   #6
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A quick screenshot from Google Earth. Seems like the majority of the redevelopment is situated where the Brentcross Shopping centre sits currently. It looks to take up a sizable chunk of semi-detatched housing as well.



I've never visited Brentcross, but compared to other regen projects like Aylesbury for example, it seems a tad bit unneccasary.
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Old October 4th, 2009, 04:31 PM   #7
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Details are at
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brent_Cross and elsewhere.



The tower mentioned above would have been just south of the M1 motorway junction.

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Old October 9th, 2009, 10:41 PM   #8
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Hardly unnecessary for a Borough 5 times the population of Aylesbury and set to add another Aylesbury in the next dozen years or so. North London is sorely in need of the office space and a significant retail 'town centre'.

The site includes the former contaminated Cricklewood railway sidings sidings.
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http://www.constructionnow.co.uk/ind...AT=News#157778

EARLY START FOR BRENT CROSS CRICKLEWOOD PLANNING HEARING



Barnet Council’s planning committee will make an early start on hearing the outline application for the £4.5bn regeneration of Brent Cross Cricklewood.

The Council’s Planning and Environment Committee meeting on October 20 will start at 6 p.m. – an hour earlier than usual – because of the high level of interest the application has attracted. Also, a large number of people, including MPs and members of neighbouring councils, have asked to address the Committee on the night.

The Council’s constitution allows for a maximum of three residents to speak for three minutes each. Some MPs and Council members will also be able to speak. The committee chairman will have discretion to decide how long they will get.

The Committee will consider a report from planning officers, together with an update on representations received since it was written. Both are available online.

Last month’s meeting of the Planning and Environment Committee decided to defer the Brent Cross Cricklewood hearing to allow members of the public more time to consider the detailed information contained in the planning officers’ report.

Acting chairman, Cllr Maureen Braun, said: “I am determined that everyone involved in this process should feel that the matter has been decided in a transparent way on the basis of the upmost care by members of the committee and in the light of a full grasp of all considerations, including any further representations made by interested members of the public in relation to the published report and supporting papers.”

The plans for a new town centre based around Cricklewood and Brent Cross would create 27,000 jobs, 7,500 homes, 3 schools, new health facilities, high quality parks and open spaces, and investment of more than £400 million in improving transport.
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The Leader of Barnet Council, Mike Freer, is going to speak FOR the application.

The Mayor of Barnet (and London Assembly member for Barnet and Camden) Brian Coleman is going to speak AGAINST.

6pm, Tuesday 20th October, Hendon Town Hall, NW4 4BG (Hendon Central Northern Line)

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Old October 14th, 2009, 08:36 PM   #11
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Council still backing Brent Cross scheme
14 October, 2009



By Anna Winston

Allies & Morrison’s troubled Brent Cross Cricklewood scheme in Barnet, north-west London, has again been recommended for approval by council officers despite receiving received more than 700 objections from local residents.

Three local residents will be allowed to make formal submissions to the planning committee, and are expected to ask committee members to throw out the £4.5 billion scheme, at an extended planning meeting later this month.

The decision has been repeatedly pushed back to allow more time for consultation and for councillors to properly consider the scheme. A meeting on September 23 was delayed in response to calls from local campaigners to have the scheme called-in.

An online petition calling for the 150ha proposal to be called in for a public inquiry has collected 325 signatures.

Among the objectors are Friends of the Earth, Brent Council and Camden Council, although the scheme has won conditional support from English Heritage, Cabe and the Environment Agency.



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Old October 22nd, 2009, 11:20 AM   #13
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Why would people object to this? I live in Hendon and that area where they plan to build on is an absolute dump and highly uninviting. And they protest against making it a better, safer and more vibrant community. I hate people.
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ignore these fooking idiots.They are the same as the people objecting to Pinewood studios proposed expansion plans which are very well plannned and look good and will provide hundreds of new jobs.Screw those nimby morons!
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Old October 23rd, 2009, 03:14 PM   #15
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Why are Camden and Friends of the Earth complaining?!?! Why is English Heritage getting involved?! All very odd
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Public will have question time at longer Brent Cross Cricklewood meeting

THE future of the £4.5bn redevelopment of the Brent Cross Cricklewood area should be made over two nights in November after councillors agreed to delay the decision again last night.

It now looks set Barnet Council will hold an “unprecedented” two nights of debate on November 18 and 19 about the controversial plans in a bid to allow everyone who wants to to speak on the subject.

Last night the planning committee rubber stamped the delay, but the final decision to hold the meeting, which requires suspension of certain council rules, lies with the full council which meets on November 3.

Members of the public who had posed questions for councillors at the postponed meetings in September and last night were told answers would be posted on the council's website.

They will also be allowed to ask supplementary questions at the beginning of the extended session.

Councillor Maureen Braun, the stand-in chairman, said the committee is “committed” and added the decision shows the “importance we attach to transparency about the debate”.

However, campaigners who oppose the current plans over key features including environmental, traffic and housing condition issues, have reiterated calls for a public inquiry.

Lia Colacicco, co-ordinator of the Coalition for sustainable Brent Cross Cricklewood redevelopment, said: “The new BXC will affect the shape of North London for generations.

“The scheme should therefore be judged by people knowledgeable and experienced in large-scale urban planning.

“Barnet cannot be allowed to be prosecutor, judge and jury even if they now propose two evenings rather than two hours to come to a decision.”

She added the planning department of the council is “out of its depth” and said councillors were not equipped to make decisions on a scheme of this size.

Last week the Brent Cross Cricklewood Partnership welcomed the longer meeting, saying it is “right that people have the opportunity to express their views”.

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The latest planning committee date is 18th November, 6.30pm, at Hendon Town Hall.



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ignore these fooking idiots.They are the same as the people objecting to Pinewood studios proposed expansion plans which are very well plannned and look good and will provide hundreds of new jobs.Screw those nimby morons!
Main reasons:
  • Design was drawn up in 2003 by EDAW, supposedly only as guidance, with illustrative land use plan, but consultation since has been smoke and mirrors, thanks to the London Communications PR Agency. The 2003 guidance plan survives virtually unchanged.
  • Developers/Barnet refuse to even investigate passenger service on Midland Railway freight lines, linking to other major London Plan development areas (Colindale, Mill Hill East, Wembley, Park Royal), although mentuioned by Planning Inspectorate. Major road junction changes planned instead (£50-million at Staples Corner). Barnet estimate of 29,000 extra cars a day.
  • Barnet facing legal challenge over European Court of Justice 2007 ruling, on sweetheart deals over selling the extensive public land without tender.
  • One of three major incinerators of seven north London boroughs would be built on site, burning (gasifying) residual domestic waste.
  • Likely closure of Cricklewood station if Brent Cross Thameslink ever built. Network Rail selling off Railway Land without consulting a stakeholder called The Public, rubber-stamped by Office of Rail Regulation (which also listed Cricklewood station closure procedure).
  • Immediate demolition of existing bridge over North Circular, and existing route under A41 roundabout, permanently ending possibility of off-road light rail to Brent Cross Northern Line station, if circumstances allow.
  • TfL refusal to run possibly short-lived Rapid Transit System - now just an on-site bus service. Unnecessary housing demolition for this at the tube station. TfL stopped opposing moving bus station next to ten-lane North Circular, meaning bus station all-day staff at risk from particulates and nitrogen dioxide levels.
  • Existing housing dominated by new high-rise housing, with unacceptable massing nearby. Little family housing planned. Existing three schools, modern sports centre and acceptable 1950s/1960s housing stock demolished. No replacement for sheltered housing.

(Incidentally, there is an incinerator chimney, extreme right, just above the "North Circular Road" arrow. That must create interesting eddies as the emissions rise next to the office tower next door!)

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Old October 31st, 2009, 07:32 PM   #18
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ignore these fooking idiots.They are the same as the people objecting to Pinewood studios proposed expansion plans which are very well plannned and look good and will provide hundreds of new jobs.Screw those nimby morons!
Please look at the facts. As one of the nimby morons I should mention that we object to this on the basis that it is a clunky 1980s throw-back -just look at the picture. We are asking for a 21st century development with all the latest green-tech innovations to make it a worldwide showpiece. It could be so fabulous with a little more imagination.
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Why are Camden and Friends of the Earth complaining?!?! Why is English Heritage getting involved?! All very odd
Don't know about English Heritage, but the Environment Agency produced a piece of PR puffery promoting the planning application, so leaving the neutrality of the state somewhat in tatters.
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