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Old March 2nd, 2012, 03:37 PM   #32861
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I think the Lopezes are involved with mining, in Benguet no?

Btw, for those cheering on MVP. Remember- he is not representing himself but Indonesian interests: Salim Group.

Yung si Peter Wallace, consultant kuno yan, eternal gadfly. Who is he representing? Foreign businesses?

So who is really acting for Philippines present and future interests?


And FCOL. 1 Trillion USD worth of minerals? That's a drop in the bucket. Madaling maubos yan. Ang yumayaman lang ay ang mga may-ari ng minahan at dayuhang mamumuhunan at ang mga pulitikong nasa payroll nila. After all the minerals are exhausted, wala ng kwenta ang mga lugar na iiwan. Sirang kalikasan, at sirang pamayanan, balik pa din sa karukhaan.
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Old March 2nd, 2012, 03:41 PM   #32862
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I think they(Lopez) are more into Power Generation and starts focusing on Renewable energy
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Old March 2nd, 2012, 03:46 PM   #32863
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ito ang mas maayos na makapaglikom ng pera ang bansa natin, hinde mangutang,..yang pangungurakot ng mga opisyales natin talaga bang walang makakasugpo jan??? At kung mag-mimina man, dapat ayusin at hinde minang balasubas, kesa naman pabayaan ang mga tao o kung cno-cnong mamamayan lang yun ang mas destructive,..kaya nga meron tayo nyan para magamit natin hinde hayan lang nakabaon ok lang sana kung progressive na pinas e kailangan natin umangat bago mag 2050!
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Old March 2nd, 2012, 03:49 PM   #32864
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Sa tingin ko hindi kawalan ng pera ang problema kundi pandarambong. Maski gano pa kadami ng pera ng bayan at ito'y ninanakaw, wala pa ding mapupuntahan.
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Old March 2nd, 2012, 03:59 PM   #32865
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Duterte knows how to contain corruption in DC, pag alam nya,..lalo na pag may power ito, ewan kolang kung saan pupulutin mga kurakot na yan!
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Old March 2nd, 2012, 04:01 PM   #32866
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I think this deserves a new thread. 54 pages na.
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Old March 2nd, 2012, 04:03 PM   #32867
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Sa aking pananaw, di pa napapanahon para gamitin ng tuluyan at malawakan ang nakatagong mineral sa ating bansa.
Ang pilipinas ay pinagpala sa napakaraming natural na yaman at isa lang jan ang mga mineral.
Sa ngayon dapat pagtuunan ng pansin ay yung mga bagay na tayo mismong mga pilipino ay may kakayahan at makakabuti sa pangmatagalan.
Ilan dito ay ang Agrikultura, turismo, natural na enerhiya at iba pang serbiso na may kapasidad ang pilipinas. Kung makakamit natin ang isang daang porsyentong potential sa mga larangan na yan, mas malaki pa ang kikitain ng pilipinas at higit pa dyan ito ay pangmatagal.
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Old March 2nd, 2012, 04:06 PM   #32868
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I think the Lopezes are involved with mining, in Benguet no?

Btw, for those cheering on MVP. Remember- he is not representing himself but Indonesian interests: Salim Group.

Yung si Peter Wallace, consultant kuno yan, eternal gadfly. Who is he representing? Foreign businesses?

So who is really acting for Philippines present and future interests?


And FCOL. 1 Trillion USD worth of minerals? That's a drop in the bucket. Madaling maubos yan. Ang yumayaman lang ay ang mga may-ari ng minahan at dayuhang mamumuhunan at ang mga pulitikong nasa payroll nila. After all the minerals are exhausted, wala ng kwenta ang mga lugar na iiwan. Sirang kalikasan, at sirang pamayanan, balik pa din sa karukhaan.
Pretty obvious isn't it? A lobbyist I think is the more appropriate title instead of consultant.
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Old March 2nd, 2012, 04:07 PM   #32869
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Sa aking pananaw, di pa napapanahon para gamitin ng tuluyan at malawakan ang nakatagong mineral sa ating bansa.
Ang pilipinas ay pinagpala sa napakaraming natural na yaman at isa lang jan ang mga mineral.
Sa ngayon dapat pagtuunan ng pansin ay yung mga bagay na tayo mismong mga pilipino ay may kakayahan at makakabuti sa pangmatagalan.
Ilan dito ay ang Agrikultura, turismo, natural na enerhiya at iba pang serbiso na may kapasidad ang pilipinas. Kung makakamit natin ang isang daang porsyentong potential sa mga larangan na yan, mas malaki pa ang kikitain ng pilipinas at higit pa dyan ito ay pangmatagal.
mukhang kailangan natin ngayun, maliban kung may madiscover at recoverable na oilfields at gas deposits tayo na bago, reserba na mga minerals nayan, kaysa naman mangungutang lang tayo o mag-aantay ng may mag invest o magdala ng puhunan sa bansa,,..
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Old March 2nd, 2012, 04:15 PM   #32870
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gina lopez is a hypocrite. read this article. Gina and the Lopez’ environment record
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Baka di nila makontrol yung mining or against sa adhikain nila sa Bantay Ka Likasan.



yada yada

how nobool naman, kaya pala ginagawang dilaw na gulay ang kukote ng manonood nila

umeepal lang ang garapal na Oligarch na yan kasi ang talagang agenda ay monopolize ang RE kaya mag-ingat sa RE investment kuno ng mga yan at baka talbugan pa ang pangongotong sa Meralco consumers nila

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Old March 2nd, 2012, 04:20 PM   #32871
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ang masama kase sa nakikita ko... mga banyagang namumuhunan ang interesado at may kakayahan sa ngayon sa pagmimina sa ating kalikasan.
Totoo na kikita tayo dito, pero napakaliit kumpara sa posibleng kapahamakan na idudulot nito sa ating bansa. At ang mga banyagang namumuhunan.. babalik sa kanilang bansa o kaya lilipat ng lugar para maghanap ulit ng mapagmiminahan. At tayo, wala na.. sira na at di na natin maibabalik.
Posibleng maging mayaman tayo... pero darating ang araw ang kayamanan na yan ang gagamitin din natin na paglinis sa lahat ng nasira ng pagmimina.

Di ako tutol sa pagmimina.. pero sana wag ito ang ang gamiting solution para sa problemang kahirapan ng bansa. Maraming mas mabuting paraan.
Di sobrang hirap ng pilipinas para kumapit sa "patalim".

IMHO.
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Old March 2nd, 2012, 04:34 PM   #32872
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ang masama kase sa nakikita ko... mga banyagang namumuhunan ang interesado at may kakayahan sa ngayon sa pagmimina sa ating kalikasan.
Totoo na kikita tayo dito, pero napakaliit kumpara sa posibleng kapahamakan na idudulot nito sa ating bansa. At ang mga banyagang namumuhunan.. babalik sa kanilang bansa o kaya lilipat ng lugar para maghanap ulit ng mapagmiminahan. At tayo, wala na.. sira na at di na natin maibabalik.
Posibleng maging mayaman tayo... pero darating ang araw ang kayamanan na yan ang gagamitin din natin na paglinis sa lahat ng nasira ng pagmimina.

Di ako tutol sa pagmimina.. pero sana wag ito ang ang gamiting solution para sa problemang kahirapan ng bansa. Maraming mas mabuting paraan.
Di sobrang hirap ng pilipinas para kumapit sa "patalim".

IMHO.
Mag-ingat at magmasid lang dahil yan din ang paboritong kanta ng Neocolonial OLIGARCHS, pero experience have proven time and again that they can even be WORSE than foreign investors in exploiting the citizens of this country.


There must be ways to ensure that our mineral resources be channeled for the benefit of local citizens but NOT the monopolizing agenda by OLIGARCHS.
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Old March 2nd, 2012, 04:48 PM   #32873
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ang masama kase sa nakikita ko... mga banyagang namumuhunan ang interesado at may kakayahan sa ngayon sa pagmimina sa ating kalikasan.
Totoo na kikita tayo dito, pero napakaliit kumpara sa posibleng kapahamakan na idudulot nito sa ating bansa. At ang mga banyagang namumuhunan.. babalik sa kanilang bansa o kaya lilipat ng lugar para maghanap ulit ng mapagmiminahan. At tayo, wala na.. sira na at di na natin maibabalik.
Posibleng maging mayaman tayo... pero darating ang araw ang kayamanan na yan ang gagamitin din natin na paglinis sa lahat ng nasira ng pagmimina.

Di ako tutol sa pagmimina.. pero sana wag ito ang ang gamiting solution para sa problemang kahirapan ng bansa. Maraming mas mabuting paraan.
Di sobrang hirap ng pilipinas para kumapit sa "patalim".

IMHO.
Nationalize the mining industry,..teka 40% below poverty line dpaba nakaka-alarm sayo yun?nagkakapitan dlang sa patalim,..
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Old March 2nd, 2012, 04:49 PM   #32874
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Mag-ingat at magmasid lang dahil yan din ang paboritong kanta ng Neocolonial OLIGARCHS, pero experience have proven time and again that they can even be WORSE than foreign investors in exploiting the citizens of this country.


There must be ways to ensure that our mineral resources be channeled for the benefit of local citizens but NOT the monopolizing agenda by OLIGARCHS.
Are you also referring to OLIGARCHS from previous administrations?

If not, then, you don't have the credibility of saying that
IMO.
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Old March 2nd, 2012, 05:03 PM   #32875
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Are you also referring to OLIGARCHS from previous administrations?

If not, then, you don't have the credibility of saying that
IMO.
what does it matter, the OLIGARCHY had been there irregardless of any administration.

in particular, those that meddle in the political system and that is where corruption is ultimately rooted in.


if you still haven't noticed or comprehended that even to this day, then what credibility could you claim to concern in ultimately addressing the roots of corruption that plague this country.
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Old March 2nd, 2012, 10:04 PM   #32876
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OLIGARCH, blah blah blah....

can you offer solutions instead of whining all the time? you sound ridiculous with the repetitive use of your vocabulary - oligarch, zombies, puppet, yellow, etc.

not that i read your posts at all, i just see the usage of the same words in almost all your posts - it's becoming an eyesore.
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Old March 3rd, 2012, 01:15 AM   #32877
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OLIGARCH, blah blah blah....

can you offer solutions instead of whining all the time? you sound ridiculous with the repetitive use of your vocabulary - oligarch, zombies, puppet, yellow, etc.

not that i read your posts at all, i just see the usage of the same words in almost all your posts - it's becoming an eyesore.
geez, you mean instead of zoning up on the relevance of the context, you'd rather be bogged down by that mere narrow reason?

It wouldn't be a surprise at all to consider such myopic ranting sooner than you'd later think, to elicit its own way of...mindsore

obviously you don't read the posts at all, such mediocre reaction is even glaring with that flimsy ranting already.

I dare you instead to contribute your idea about the issue discussed, on how the Oligarchy had shrewdly manipulated its way in the political system and rooted with it the corruption that glared at the very core of its system as had been discussed in addressing it, and let's see if your contribution really holds water, other than making useless rant surely you have some brilliant insights to offer as you're flaunting yourself to be at my expense, and vindicate my observation of yours as mediocre...

and a mere, er, mindsore

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Old March 3rd, 2012, 02:26 AM   #32878
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ang masama kase sa nakikita ko... mga banyagang namumuhunan ang interesado at may kakayahan sa ngayon sa pagmimina sa ating kalikasan.
Totoo na kikita tayo dito, pero napakaliit kumpara sa posibleng kapahamakan na idudulot nito sa ating bansa. At ang mga banyagang namumuhunan.. babalik sa kanilang bansa o kaya lilipat ng lugar para maghanap ulit ng mapagmiminahan. At tayo, wala na.. sira na at di na natin maibabalik.
Posibleng maging mayaman tayo... pero darating ang araw ang kayamanan na yan ang gagamitin din natin na paglinis sa lahat ng nasira ng pagmimina.

Di ako tutol sa pagmimina.. pero sana wag ito ang ang gamiting solution para sa problemang kahirapan ng bansa. Maraming mas mabuting paraan.
Di sobrang hirap ng pilipinas para kumapit sa "patalim".

IMHO.
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Tignan nyo nangyari dito sa Benguet, mahirap pa rin ang mining towns. Sira sira ang mga daan na iniwan sa Balatoc at Acupan mines. May part pa sa Mankayan ata na nagsisink na dahil sa mga tunnels.
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Old March 3rd, 2012, 02:34 AM   #32880
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dapat nasusunod ang rules/regulation sa mining. kasama na dapat dyan pangalagaan ang kalikasan, kalsada at mga taong nakatira sa lugar.
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