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Old January 11th, 2012, 02:10 PM   #1041
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Old January 11th, 2012, 02:25 PM   #1042
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Rio de Janeiro was probably thought of as the first Summer Olympics host city in South America because there were no other good choices in the continent.

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Old January 11th, 2012, 04:08 PM   #1043
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Would be interesting if the respective Rugby Union's around the world threw the door open to Rugby League players in the interest of national pride. Pretty sure some NRL players could run rings around the opposition in Rugby 7's though it would almost certainly be an AUS vs NZ final..
I don't think so, the guys who play 7's don't usually play 15 man rugby, they specialise in 7's. It wasn't like this even 10 years ago but now it is. Rugby players tend to convert to league better than league players to rugby IMO, the days were a league player was considered tougher and fitter are long gone, I think ultimately league will wither and die, there is simply not enough international competition to keep interest up in the game outside NSW, QLD, Auckland and Northern England.

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The great thing is that many nations around the world direct goverenment financial support to Olympic sports so in years to come we may find a bunch of elusive former sprinters specifically trained and excelling in one (though limited) form of Rugby. Could end up with a final involving Russia vs the USA.
Doubt it, a sprinter is fast but will they be able to tackle or be tackled without injury, rugby 7's is still a physical game; plus ball skills take years to learn and perfect.
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Old January 12th, 2012, 08:16 AM   #1044
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Rio de Janeiro was probably thought of as the first Summer Olympics host city in South America because there were no other good choices in the continent.

Indeed, you're wrong again.

Buenos Aires almost got 1956 games and loses the final votation for 1 vote only.
Today Buenos Aires is really behind other nice South American cities in terms of providing nice Olympic Games, such as Santiago or Brasilia (the problem for both is the lack of experience in hosting smaller multi-sports events like PanAms).
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Old January 12th, 2012, 08:18 AM   #1045
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Go, Rio, go!!!

The difference between the schedule of Olympic Games and World Cup is visible.
Nice to see Rio 2016 is under way without delays so far.
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Old January 12th, 2012, 10:17 AM   #1046
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Indeed, you're wrong again.

Buenos Aires almost got 1956 games and loses the final votation for 1 vote only.
Today Buenos Aires is really behind other nice South American cities in terms of providing nice Olympic Games, such as Santiago or Brasilia (the problem for both is the lack of experience in hosting smaller multi-sports events like PanAms).
I agree, If we wanted more Summer Olympicses in South America, we'd have to go through either Buenos Aires or Rio de Janeiro. I can see that Brazil is the better country, so we chose the latter.
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Old January 12th, 2012, 01:34 PM   #1047
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I don't think so, the guys who play 7's don't usually play 15 man rugby, they specialise in 7's. It wasn't like this even 10 years ago but now it is. Rugby players tend to convert to league better than league players to rugby IMO, the days were a league player was considered tougher and fitter are long gone, I think ultimately league will wither and die, there is simply not enough international competition to keep interest up in the game outside NSW, QLD, Auckland and Northern England.



Doubt it, a sprinter is fast but will they be able to tackle or be tackled without injury, rugby 7's is still a physical game; plus ball skills take years to learn and perfect.
Don't agree, The International RL game has never been a big deal anyway.
Its not going to grow but in the heartlands you mention its doing fine with crowds up in SL and recent new stadia.

It no coincidence that elite level professional club RU struggles in those very same areas!
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Old January 12th, 2012, 01:38 PM   #1048
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I don't think so, the guys who play 7's don't usually play 15 man rugby, they specialise in 7's. It wasn't like this even 10 years ago but now it is. Rugby players tend to convert to league better than league players to rugby IMO, the days were a league player was considered tougher and fitter are long gone, I think ultimately league will wither and die, there is simply not enough international competition to keep interest up in the game outside NSW, QLD, Auckland and Northern England.



Doubt it, a sprinter is fast but will they be able to tackle or be tackled without injury, rugby 7's is still a physical game; plus ball skills take years to learn and perfect.
SBW, Brad Thorne (switched twice I know but came back better) and Jason Robinson have all won RWC's, so the League lads can do okay
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Old January 12th, 2012, 03:23 PM   #1049
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I don't think so, the guys who play 7's don't usually play 15 man rugby, they specialise in 7's. It wasn't like this even 10 years ago but now it is. Rugby players tend to convert to league better than league players to rugby IMO, the days were a league player was considered tougher and fitter are long gone, I think ultimately league will wither and die, there is simply not enough international competition to keep interest up in the game outside NSW, QLD, Auckland and Northern England.
I wasn't aware of the development in 7's only specialists, just assumed they were guys who couldn't break into the 15's.

As for League dieing out. Thats been predicted for years yet the Game is possibly the healthest it's been in Australia. It's making inroads again in France and has never been bigger in NZ.

Aussie Rules Football has no meaningful international competition and has a heart land smaller than Rugby league yet it completely dominates the nations winter and is by far the wealthiest and attended Sport in the Country.

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Doubt it, a sprinter is fast but will they be able to tackle or be tackled without injury, rugby 7's is still a physical game; plus ball skills take years to learn and perfect.
Doug Howlett called.
Not to mention the numerous Olympians who went on to play in the NFL and CFL (not all were receivers).
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Old January 12th, 2012, 09:10 PM   #1050
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SBW, Brad Thorne (switched twice I know but came back better) and Jason Robinson have all won RWC's, so the League lads can do okay
Thorne is probably the best example of a league player moving successfully to union, the guy is awesome. Look at SBW a complete waste of space on a union side, ditto Sailor.

Doug Howlett always played rugby, he wasn't a convert from sprinting. In NFL and CFL ball skills aren't as important as they are in rugby, you only need one guy to pass and a couple of receivers, whereas everyone on a rugby field needs ball skills.
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Old January 13th, 2012, 02:58 PM   #1051
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I agree, If we wanted more Summer Olympicses in South America, we'd have to go through either Buenos Aires or Rio de Janeiro. I can see that Brazil is the better country, so we chose the latter.
Brasilia could host some Olympic Games easily... The infra-structure of Plan Piloto is very nice. Curitiba would be another fantastic host in Brazil.

I really think you have no much idea about what you are talking about.

There are really nice cities under the Equator, Jim, I can asure you, Santiago is other nice place.
The city is a very nice mixture of old and modern and have good infra-structure too and nice landscapes.
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Old January 13th, 2012, 05:48 PM   #1052
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"You don't know what you're talking about." I'm sick of that statement.
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Old January 14th, 2012, 09:51 AM   #1053
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"You don't know what you're talking about." I'm sick of that statement.
I've said this with good mood and respect, not accusing you of nothing.

You haven't been to South America. By reading your comments, this is notorious and easily-known.

If someday you come you'll see there are nice cities here, some, indeed could host Olympic Games and major sports events easily.

Unfortunatelly, international media always show South America as something very poor, with lazy people, druglords and jungle everywhere. Those things really exist, but they are not the only reality of this continent, a continent that is doing really nice in the last 2 decades.

The Economist Cover in 2010

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Old January 18th, 2012, 12:05 AM   #1054
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Old January 18th, 2012, 01:10 AM   #1055
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Very nice this video!!Very nice!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old January 20th, 2012, 05:13 AM   #1056
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Very nice this video!!Very nice!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
To a "disorganized city" like you always point in GIG thread, it's a slap in your face, to be nice...
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Old January 20th, 2012, 05:48 PM   #1057
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Brasil the next rugby power!
You're wrong here. Rugby wont ever be popular in Brasil. American Football is bigger here than rugby...
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Old January 20th, 2012, 06:55 PM   #1058
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To a "disorganized city" like you always point in GIG thread, it's a slap in your face, to be nice...
AAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!
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Old January 20th, 2012, 10:39 PM   #1059
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To a "disorganized city" like you always point in GIG thread, it's a slap in your face, to be nice...
This is a government propaganda and you know it (2012 is election year in Brazil). There were several studies prior to the tragedies that took place in Rio last year, they indicated that the mountainous region were not safe. No one from the government did nothing about it.

Yes. Rio is disorganized. Brazil is disorganized. 6th economy in the world, but this still means almost nothing for the Brazilian people.

I am Brazilian and I see our problems. I think we can organize a good World Cup and Olympics, but I keep it real. We still need a lot of work to call ourselves a developed country.

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Old January 21st, 2012, 05:37 PM   #1060
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I've said this with good mood and respect, not accusing you of nothing.

You haven't been to South America. By reading your comments, this is notorious and easily-known.

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If some credit is missing, please, moderator, adjust it to me, since I don't know how to place it.
I'm almost convinced he is south american...
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