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Old August 19th, 2011, 09:08 PM   #221
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Great! You guys are brilliant. Keep this stuff coming.
Where do you fetch it? I tried PBE and there are no renderings available.
On the other hand this design was disappointing. LPO hasn't impressed much with their designs at Sørenga if you ask me. I'm patiently waiting for the renderings from both Brodtkorb, MAD and Jarmund/Vigsnæs. Especially D1-b7 and D1-b8 will be interesting.
So far, Sørenga has fallen short of Tjuvholmen the way I see it and there is really no reason why this should be the case. It seems too monotonous and reminds me of the commie buildings at Lambertseter and other "drabantbyer". The argument of creating a shared identity by using one brick type for the whole area seems poorly founded. It remains to see how it turns out of course, but I would prefer more diversity in the materials and architechture. It would still look coherent as it is being built in the same time frame and within the same master plan.
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Old August 20th, 2011, 04:38 AM   #222
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I do like the idea of the container park though, with the containers filled with plants and such. Neat idea.
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Old August 20th, 2011, 04:52 PM   #223
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I'm looking forward to the design of that block.
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Old August 21st, 2011, 07:16 PM   #224
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On the other hand this design was disappointing. LPO hasn't impressed much with their designs at Sørenga if you ask me.
I agree. I wish they had rather used this design on the right here they presented the masterplan with:



That would have been so much better imho!
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Old August 21st, 2011, 07:19 PM   #225
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The webcams:

Trinn 1 (LPO):




Trinn 2 (MAD):




Trinn 3 (Jarmund/Vigsnæs):
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Old August 21st, 2011, 07:52 PM   #226
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I agree. I wish they had rather used this design on the right here they presented the masterplan with:



That would have been so much better imho!
Sad that the end result seems to disapoint compared to the initial illustrations. I think this illustration looks much better than the all brick buildings we are getting. Hopefully I'm wrong, but does anyone think that one facade type for all blocks looks promising? Is it too late to reconsider?
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Old August 21st, 2011, 08:35 PM   #227
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I'm not too bothered about the lack of color/facade material variety. If you look at the picture you quoted, then you will see that isn't much variety to spot there either. What does bother me however is the designs of some the buildings - it could have been so much better imho.

This is the only building of the ones I've seen that I really like the look of:
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Old August 22nd, 2011, 11:17 AM   #228
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With those dull brick facades, Sørenga will end up looking like Ijburg in Amsterdam: Nicely planned, with some elements of fancy architecture, but monotonous, uninspiring, and lethally boring!
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Old August 22nd, 2011, 03:53 PM   #229
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With those dull brick facades, Sørenga will end up looking like Ijburg in Amsterdam: Nicely planned, with some elements of fancy architecture, but monotonous, uninspiring, and lethally boring!
Can anyone tell me who's idea it was to turn Sørenga into a one brick type area? This was not the initial plan. Was it one of the developers? To save cost?

I wish Aftenposten would create an article on this with a critical angle.
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Old August 22nd, 2011, 04:46 PM   #230
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I suspect the discussion to go with one brick type was as an answer to the calls for a more homogeneous building mass at Tjuvholmen. I may be wrong, but I also believe Riks-/Byantikvaren wanted to use bricks to tie the new building mass with Akershus fortress?
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Old August 22nd, 2011, 04:56 PM   #231
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Bricks are cool

Thats a fact
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Old August 22nd, 2011, 05:11 PM   #232
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Thats a fact
About time we heard something positive. Bricks are timeless and used a lot at Aker Brygge and Akershus Festning. You never hear people complain about that.

This forum have turned into a depressing state of mind. All I hear is complains and negativity. It's either about hight, or facade/materials, or the design. If there's one thing we can be sure of, there's always something to complain about.
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Old August 22nd, 2011, 05:45 PM   #233
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You mean, like the guy in the beginning of the Vulkan thread? Seriously though, is it weird that some are worried about it being to monotonous with 8 quarters, all bricks?
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Old August 22nd, 2011, 06:13 PM   #234
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i like the idea of the continuity, sometimes aker brygge can seem a bit of a mess - so i think this will be a nice contrast to the fussiness on the western side of the bay.

that said, it really demands great variation in design to prevent it looking like a big dull brick wall, that's where my concerns currently lie.
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Old August 22nd, 2011, 06:25 PM   #235
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About time we heard something positive. Bricks are timeless and used a lot at Aker Brygge and Akershus Festning. You never hear people complain about that.

This forum have turned into a depressing state of mind. All I hear is complains and negativity. It's either about hight, or facade/materials, or the design. If there's one thing we can be sure of, there's always something to complain about.
Bricks are used all over Lambertseter. Take a look at and see if you think it appeals to you. I have nothing against bricks in general, but the idea of using one type of brick for all facades gives me associations to commie blocks.
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Old August 22nd, 2011, 06:35 PM   #236
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I don't think it is the use of bricks that makes Lambertseter seems uninviting. Brick are also used in the city hall, the fortress as well as a bunch of old industrial buildings along Akerselva, and they look great there imho.

The bricks used here are also of more stylish than the Lambertseter equivalent:


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Old August 22nd, 2011, 06:43 PM   #237
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You mean, like the guy in the beginning of the Vulkan thread?
Yes, I have complained about many things, and I think Vulkan is a missed opportunity to get some real highrises spread around the citycore. But I also speak positively about many things. I feel there is a trend among some forumers to just express opinions when they have something negative to say.
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Old August 22nd, 2011, 08:58 PM   #238
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I think it's difficult to compare Sørenga to either Aker brygge or even Tjuvholmen. I agree, it's a completely different aesthetical expression, but I really like the fact that they are building it in bricks. I just hope that they will open the buildings up to let in enough light. Not only between the blocks and inside the blocks, because this is well regulated by PBE. I hope they will have apartment facades with lots of glass windows, opening them up to the sea. The buildings D1-b3, D1-b7 and D1-b8 will be facing south and southwest, and would benefit the most from this. I'm looking forward to more detailed renderings..
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Old August 22nd, 2011, 09:49 PM   #239
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Considering the price people are willing to pay for sunlight, I don't think this will be a problem in Sørenga.
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Old August 31st, 2011, 08:27 PM   #240
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Anyone know if they are on track on step 1?

Completion is scheduled to October.
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