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Old October 25th, 2009, 02:30 AM   #21
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Could you explain me a little more about this? I guess Byzantine-Rite Catholicism is a specific part of orthoxism, isn't it?

I've allways been wondering about where this tradition came from - it seemes Romania, Moldova, Bulgaria and at least the south of Ukraine share a series of common typologies in the architecture of orthodox churches, while these very old wooden churches seem to be a very different typology.
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Could you explain me a little more about this? I guess Byzantine-Rite Catholicism is a specific part of orthoxism, isn't it?

I've allways been wondering about where this tradition came from - it seemes Romania, Moldova, Bulgaria and at least the south of Ukraine share a series of common typologies in the architecture of orthodox churches, while these very old wooden churches seem to be a very different typology.
Greek Catholicism is Orthodoxy that is loyal to the Pope.

Wikipedia articles on wooden churches:

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Old October 28th, 2009, 12:18 AM   #23
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Old November 23rd, 2009, 11:54 AM   #26
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Museum of Folk Architecture and Life is an open-air museum located in Uzhhorod, Ukraine. It features over 30 traditional structures collected from villages across Zakarpattia Oblast, the Ukrainian province of which Uzhgorod is the capital. According to Michael Benanav of The New York Times, "the museum's centerpiece is 16th-century St. Michael's Church, with a roof and onion-domed steeple covered in wooden shingles." [1] Uzhgorod Castle, located nearby, is an imposing fortress that housed the regents of the Habsburgs.





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Old December 16th, 2009, 11:03 AM   #28
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So are most of these Eastern Rite Catholic Churches? They all seem to feature a cross different from either the Greek Cross or the St. Andrews Cross found on most Orthodox Churches. I've only seen photos of the Orthodox wooden architecture of Northern Russia. Is this also Orthodox or is it Eastern Rite Catholic?
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Old December 17th, 2009, 04:46 AM   #29
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I may be wrong, but these Churches are probably a mix of Eastern Rite Catholic and Ukrainian Orthodox.

As to your last question, Russians don't have Catholics.
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"As to your last question, Russians don't have Catholics."

Oh lol, I wasn't askingn about the Russians. I think something like 90% of Russians are Orthodox. I was just saying the architecture in Ukraine is similar to Orthodox wooden architecture in Russia... However that isn't surprising considering the close relations between the two over history.
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Oh, sorry. Maybe, I'm not familiar with Russian wooden architecture.
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Old December 23rd, 2009, 01:38 PM   #33
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Ukraine has a lot of fancy looking wooden churches I don't think that in Russia they are as good as they are here in Ukraine.
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Russian wooden architecture is on the level:

http://www.skypalace.org/europe/slav...rth_east.shtml
http://www.skypalace.org/europe/slav...churches.shtml

But it's not as diverse as Ukrainian wooden architecture.
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great architecture! really cool!
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Old January 27th, 2010, 08:54 AM   #36
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Sviatohirsk Lavra (also known as Sviatohirsk Cave Monastery). The new skit (Of All Saints) was built in 2000's.

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I may be wrong, but these Churches are probably a mix of Eastern Rite Catholic and Ukrainian Orthodox.

As to your last question, Russians don't have Catholics.
I may be wrong,but if the majority of the Ukrainian wooden churches are located in ex-Galicia,then this is a characteristic of the orthodox population of the former AU empire, in the same way as with the Romanians from Northern Transylvania-Maramuresh and Bukowina.Both Romanians and Ukranians ,being of Orthodox faith,weren't allowed to build mighty churches in the cities,hence they might have been forced to resort to wood,up in their mountains.

So it's definitely characteristic of Orthodoxism.
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I suppose you are wrong. In southern Poland there are dozens wooden catholic (Roman Catholic, to be as clear as possible), some of them built in the Middle Ages, in XVth century and few in XIVth. There is even a trail of wooden churches of Little Poland, which is on the UNESCO list. All of them are catholic. In this link you can find some info regarding them:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wooden_..._Little_Poland

There are also wooden Roman Catholic churches in Slovakia and big number of them in Norway.
Therefore, it's definitely NOT the characteristic of Orthodoxism.

BTW. I think that big number of wooden churches have more in common with plenty of wood than with a relatively short period of austrian domination.
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I know about them.Duh!Of course there are wooden churches all over the world.I was reffering to the ones from the ex-Habsburg Empire/AU space.But as I said,I might have been wrong;I forgot about Western Galicia and its Poles.However,I still believe that the Orthodox Romanians and Ukranians build in wood out of necessity (not of plain ,idyllic pleasure) into which they put all their passion and handicrafts,while the Poles had a neat,centuries-old kingdom and plenty of time to develop...

P.S.:I've also just noticed (page 1) that there are Ukranian wood churches in the Western part of the country too.Coincidence?No

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