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tigidig14 · January 19th, 2006, 08:35 AM

ang laki ng pinoybroker.com na logo sa harap

PinoyBroker · January 19th, 2006, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by mhe-ann

now I can see the pic.

ei, you're a guy, am I right? kc parang lalaki un katabi ni cass...

:

yep.. boy po ako.

marites4 · January 19th, 2006, 06:03 PM

Pics of the model units?

PinoyBroker · January 19th, 2006, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by tigidig14

ang laki ng pinoybroker.com na logo sa harap

pasensya na po... before, i used to place the pinoybroker.com sig at the bottom corner BUT there was an incident that I saw a picture of one of the condo developments I PERSONALLY took but the sig portion was already cropped out... napikon na ako ever since..

rustyboi · January 22nd, 2006, 11:10 AM

Took this earlier today

PinoyBroker · January 22nd, 2006, 06:44 PM

yesterday lang?? as in Sunday ba??

heheheh.. muntik pa pala tayo magkita...

I was at Meralco aound 10am and wanted to take a pix from Meralco side BUT I couldn't find the right angle because of the trees..

Currently, CER is at the SAME height as Philcomcen

Oddvertising · January 25th, 2006, 12:58 PM

I stumbled into this forum while looking for some info about CER. I already own a unit in megaplaza condo just down the road near Galleria but I took an inner unit so i don't have any view.

I am in the process of buying a 3 bedroom unit at CER but cant decide on what floor to take.

All the 3 bedrooms in the ortigas side are sold out and the only one remaining is at the 5th floor at 3.4 M pesos (72sqm).

The other choices are all in the Sapphire road side. There is a 3Br on the 28th floor at 2.8M pesos (71sqm). There is another one at the 34th floor at 3.1M pesos (71 sqm).

I can't decide between the 28th and 34th floor. there is a 300,000 pesos difference. I want to have a nice view this time when I buy.

Any info on what's being built on the sapphire road side? Is the picture from Rusty18 from the sapphire road side?

Thanks

sedna · January 26th, 2006, 12:49 AM

Oddvertising, welcome to the forum.

Have you ever heard of this common response to buying a condo called "buyer's remorse"? This is probably the biggest financial commitment of your life and it can certainly cause anxiety. I bet you felt it when you bought that 1BR unit with No views at all! Buyer's remorse is an emotion, not a logical process of thought. It occurs most often after the purchase of high-ticket items, such as a condo which naturally generates more stress. Add a parking space and you're a candidate for a heart attack!

However, 2nd time around, your dilemma on which floor to choose is not that stressful, albeit an easy one. At the present rate of bldg construction sprouting like mushrooms all over the metropolis there is indeed no more guarantees of "unlimited, uninterrupted and unobstructed views". When you get below the 20th-30th floor where views become obstructed by neighboring buildings thus you start falling below the sightline of a number of other buildings in the area, the view factor, which sells a lot of these condo units, drops very quickly and starts to make the choice to go condo less clear.

But alas, you can safeguard yourself from any eventuality and perhaps secure yourself free from heartaches(and guaranteed higher returns on your investment) in the future? Php300k is a small price to pay for peace of mind. Go for the higher/highest floors. . . and do away with buyer's remorse.

Oddvertising · January 26th, 2006, 07:46 AM

Sedna, Thank you very much for the advice. I think it was the push I needed to go ahead and take the 34th floor.
I was just wondering, the common advice for buying condos is: Location, location and location! But as I found out this was not entirely true.
I love megaplaza's location and whenever we come home to manila it's so convenient with all the malls and nightlife around you. But after a week I get this claustrophobic feeling staying in a viewless room. My unit in megaplaza has 2 rooms (54 sqm) which when I bought was at the same price as a 1 room (29 sqm) that has a view. As I learned location and price is not everything in buying a condo.

For people who would buy a condo not only as an investment but also to actually live in it, the popular adage of "location is everything" is not wise enough.

For me now, I would rate the importance of things to consider in buying a condo in this order. Location first, Price second, View third, Aesthetics fourth, Stability 5th and investment value last. What do you think?

I wish there was a star rating on condos the way hotels have so that you actually have an idea of what to expect. I am not expecting that CER would be a 5 star condo but i am hoping it would be between 3 and 4 stars.

terrapinoy · January 26th, 2006, 02:25 PM

Thanks for the advice. So how would you rate Cityland as a builder and its property management skills? Since you are buying a Cityland unit again, I'm assuming it's a positive vote for them.

Oddvertising · January 26th, 2006, 09:49 PM

Cityland doesn't build the best looking condos, even the fittings of the interior are not exactly first class but they also have some advantage over other developers.
They are:
1. They complete their projects to the promised date.
2. They offer the best locations at the best price.
3. Though the sizes of the rooms and units are small they are very practical and maximises the floor area for each unit.
4. They make sure that there is a capable homeowners association managing the building. Security and maintenance is very good as with our experience with Megaplaza.

Most of the owners of units in megaplaza made improvements to their units. You get it at an economical price so you have some money left to improve it according to your own taste and lifestyle.

You can improve your unit as you have more money later on, but you cannot change the location of the building if you are not happy with it.

Most of the projects on the same location as Cityland's are usually up to 2 times more expensive per square meter.

3cr · January 27th, 2006, 12:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oddvertising

Sedna, Thank you very much for the advice. I think it was the push I needed to go ahead and take the 34th floor.
I was just wondering, the common advice for buying condos is: Location, location and location! But as I found out this was not entirely true.
I love megaplaza's location and whenever we come home to manila it's so convenient with all the malls and nightlife around you. But after a week I get this claustrophobic feeling staying in a viewless room. My unit in megaplaza has 2 rooms (54 sqm) which when I bought was at the same price as a 1 room (29 sqm) that has a view. As I learned location and price is not everything in buying a condo.

For people who would buy a condo not only as an investment but also to actually live in it, the popular adage of "location is everything" is not wise enough.

For me now, I would rate the importance of things to consider in buying a condo in this order. Location first, Price second, View third, Aesthetics fourth, Stability 5th and investment value last. What do you think?

I wish there was a star rating on condos the way hotels have so that you actually have an idea of what to expect. I am not expecting that CER would be a 5 star condo but i am hoping it would be between 3 and 4 stars.

Oddvertising,

I agree with Sedna's advice. Since you've pretty much decided already as to the location and development you want to live, you really have no choice in this case but to go high and pray that nothing higher gets built which will block these views. Just that many areas in Mandaluyong can get very crowded with buildings mushrooming side by side one another so buyer beware. Do you know what views you'll be able to get in Sapphire Road? Just make sure it's worth your money. Location is very important (though not the only factor to consider) not just interms of where the development will stand but just as important where your unit will be in the whole scheme of things whether the unit is for investment or personal use. Unless money is no object, there will always be limitations (pros and cons) that you'll have to live with and the key is fully understanding/realizing what you, as an individual, consider important (can live with and can live without). Sayang nga lang that your first unit acquisition became a rather expensive lesson/experience of buyer's remorse for you. May your new unit purchase solve all the short-comings of your original unit. Good Luck and best wishes...

Btw if you have not already chosen CER for your next unit purchase I would have recommended that you also check out the condo developments in FBGC along Manila Golf course which is a rather unique area that offers the best of both worlds you're after (world class infrastructure and award winning planning, low pollution and traffic, efficient public transportation system, excellent schools and hospitals, shopping/restaurant/nightlife convenience of Makati and FBGC, alot of open spaces and parks, and those magnificent views you covete). You don't even have to go too high of a floor level to enjoy the unobstructed views of the golf course, polo club, the airport, Makati CBD skyline, and on a clear day even the majestic Manila bay. Medyo pricey nga lang so you'll have to sacrifice space (unit size) unless money/budget is not an issue.

PS: Just like you, I do factor the Condo Developer's Reputation, Unit's Price and Investment Value, Location and Convenience, View, Ammenities, Building Aestheics and Energy Efficiency high on my list though not necessarily in that order. Can't help but be anal about these things. Just as Sedna pointed out, buying a condo unit is a very expensive proposition so got to be extra careful in doing our due diligence in order to make that sound though sometimes very emotional purchase decision. Hope this helps.

terrapinoy · January 27th, 2006, 01:23 AM

Thanks for everyone's input. It has certainly educated me on what to look for in buying a condo. This is why I enjoy reading SSC Philippines!

3cr · January 27th, 2006, 10:35 AM

You're very welcome Terrapin. There is another thread called Guide to Buying Condos that offer alot of good information which you should also check out in case you haven't done so.

PinoyBroker · January 27th, 2006, 02:39 PM

Oddvertising,

May broker ka na ba for CER??

(what an obvious and stupid question...hehehehe) <== at balak pa sulutin.

My comments lng... (as a broker and seller for Cityland... hehehe with plugging).

5th floor 3BR is ok IF (big IF) you or the occupant are willing to spend on airconditioning the whole day and bear with the traffic noise and smoke along Ortigas Avenue.

Re 28th and 34th floor, first check if the 28th floor is already higher than the building infront of it (by ASB i think... too bad I only read this post just now... I was at Galleria for a seminar this morning). If it's higher, then go for it and use the 300k to furnish your unit.

If not, go ahead with the 34th floor. Just double check that your unit is not below the pool....just a precaution.

Eventually, the sapphire road view MIGHT (not sure... I have not seen the line of sight yet) be blocked by other buildings in the future like East of Galleria.

You may also opt to check if they will "still" allow you to combine 1br/studio units or 2BR with studio facing the Ortigas side.

Your agent should be able to handle this...

p.s.

joke lang about wanting to be your broker for CER. I am a professional and licensed broker and will NOT be unethical as to take a sale away from a fellow broker UNLESS there is just cause and you are no longer happy with them.

Oddvertising · January 29th, 2006, 07:23 AM

Thanks sa advice Pinoy broker, but I already have an agent.

I am considering your suggestion of combining a 2 bedroom with a studio facing Ortigas. I already paid the reservation but not the downpayment yet.

I was just wondering about why is it bad to have a unit under the pool. Noise? maintenance?

The advice and suggestions you get from this forum is great because an agent will not say anything negative that might prevent him from making a sale.

You said something about the noise and pollution if you are on the 5th floor. From your experience, what floor do you think is high enough to be not bothered by the outside noise and pollution.

The picture I have in mind is I am out in the balcony of the 34th floor, having tea, while looking out at the multitude of people trying to get a ride home during rush hour. I am congratulating myself for the decision I made.

3cr · January 29th, 2006, 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oddvertising

I was just wondering about why is it bad to have a unit under the pool. Noise? maintenance?

Rooftop units as well as units under swimming pool floor level are more susceptible to cracks and leaks...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oddvertising

The picture I have in mind is I am out in the balcony of the 34th floor, having tea, while looking out at the multitude of people trying to get a ride home during rush hour. I am congratulating myself for the decision I made.

Quote:

Originally Posted by terrapin

Congratulations Oddvertising! I also have the same image of sitting in the balcony watching the world go by when I retire. For me, CER's balcony is one big selling point besides its location.

Ain't that the life! Sarap naman yan.

terrapinoy · January 29th, 2006, 11:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oddvertising

The picture I have in mind is I am out in the balcony of the 34th floor, having tea, while looking out at the multitude of people trying to get a ride home during rush hour. I am congratulating myself for the decision I made.

Congratulations Oddvertising! I also have the same image of sitting in the balcony watching the world go by when I retire. For me, CER's balcony is one big selling point besides its location.

thomasian · February 14th, 2006, 05:07 AM

02.08.06

Oddvertising · February 14th, 2006, 01:03 PM

Very nice angle! Are they on the 25th floor now? Cityland told me that the turnover date is on or before June 2008. By the speed they are going I hope it's earlier.

Thanks Thomasian.

January 25th, 2006, 12:58 PM	#67
Oddvertising Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 39 Likes (Received): 0	can't decide I stumbled into this forum while looking for some info about CER. I already own a unit in megaplaza condo just down the road near Galleria but I took an inner unit so i don't have any view. I am in the process of buying a 3 bedroom unit at CER but cant decide on what floor to take. All the 3 bedrooms in the ortigas side are sold out and the only one remaining is at the 5th floor at 3.4 M pesos (72sqm). The other choices are all in the Sapphire road side. There is a 3Br on the 28th floor at 2.8M pesos (71sqm). There is another one at the 34th floor at 3.1M pesos (71 sqm). I can't decide between the 28th and 34th floor. there is a 300,000 pesos difference. I want to have a nice view this time when I buy. Any info on what's being built on the sapphire road side? Is the picture from Rusty18 from the sapphire road side? Thanks Last edited by Oddvertising; January 25th, 2006 at 01:13 PM.

January 26th, 2006, 12:49 AM	#68
sedna Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Vittoria via Blaney Posts: 137 Likes (Received): 0	Oddvertising, welcome to the forum. Have you ever heard of this common response to buying a condo called "buyer's remorse"? This is probably the biggest financial commitment of your life and it can certainly cause anxiety. I bet you felt it when you bought that 1BR unit with No views at all! Buyer's remorse is an emotion, not a logical process of thought. It occurs most often after the purchase of high-ticket items, such as a condo which naturally generates more stress. Add a parking space and you're a candidate for a heart attack! However, 2nd time around, your dilemma on which floor to choose is not that stressful, albeit an easy one. At the present rate of bldg construction sprouting like mushrooms all over the metropolis there is indeed no more guarantees of "unlimited, uninterrupted and unobstructed views". When you get below the 20th-30th floor where views become obstructed by neighboring buildings thus you start falling below the sightline of a number of other buildings in the area, the view factor, which sells a lot of these condo units, drops very quickly and starts to make the choice to go condo less clear. But alas, you can safeguard yourself from any eventuality and perhaps secure yourself free from heartaches(and guaranteed higher returns on your investment) in the future? Php300k is a small price to pay for peace of mind. Go for the higher/highest floors. . . and do away with buyer's remorse. __________________ "By three methods we may learn wisdom: First, by reflection, which is noblest; Second, by imitation, which is easiest; and third by experience, which is the bitterest" Last edited by sedna; January 26th, 2006 at 01:18 AM.

January 27th, 2006, 02:39 PM	#75
PinoyBroker Licensed Broker Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: QC Posts: 51 Likes (Received): 0	Oddvertising, May broker ka na ba for CER?? (what an obvious and stupid question...hehehehe) <== at balak pa sulutin. My comments lng... (as a broker and seller for Cityland... hehehe with plugging). 5th floor 3BR is ok IF (big IF) you or the occupant are willing to spend on airconditioning the whole day and bear with the traffic noise and smoke along Ortigas Avenue. Re 28th and 34th floor, first check if the 28th floor is already higher than the building infront of it (by ASB i think... too bad I only read this post just now... I was at Galleria for a seminar this morning). If it's higher, then go for it and use the 300k to furnish your unit. If not, go ahead with the 34th floor. Just double check that your unit is not below the pool....just a precaution. Eventually, the sapphire road view MIGHT (not sure... I have not seen the line of sight yet) be blocked by other buildings in the future like East of Galleria. You may also opt to check if they will "still" allow you to combine 1br/studio units or 2BR with studio facing the Ortigas side. Your agent should be able to handle this... p.s. joke lang about wanting to be your broker for CER. I am a professional and licensed broker and will NOT be unethical as to take a sale away from a fellow broker UNLESS there is just cause and you are no longer happy with them. Last edited by PinoyBroker; January 27th, 2006 at 02:49 PM.

February 14th, 2006, 05:07 AM	#79
thomasian I'm sorry ...moving on Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Dakota Harrison Plaza Posts: 5,601 Likes (Received): 29	02.08.06 __________________ The SSC Philippines' Resident Twink is back!!!

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January 19th, 2006, 08:35 AM	#61
tigidig14 --- Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Baseko Co. Posts: 5,658	ang laki ng pinoybroker.com na logo sa harap

January 19th, 2006, 06:03 PM	#63
marites4 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 781 Likes (Received): 0	Pics of the model units?

January 22nd, 2006, 11:10 AM	#65
rustyboi M-055-1M0 Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Philippines Posts: 934 Likes (Received): 33	Took this earlier today

January 22nd, 2006, 06:44 PM	#66
PinoyBroker Licensed Broker Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: QC Posts: 51 Likes (Received): 0	yesterday lang?? as in Sunday ba?? heheheh.. muntik pa pala tayo magkita... I was at Meralco aound 10am and wanted to take a pix from Meralco side BUT I couldn't find the right angle because of the trees.. Currently, CER is at the SAME height as Philcomcen

January 26th, 2006, 07:46 AM	#69
Oddvertising Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 39 Likes (Received): 0	Sedna, Thank you very much for the advice. I think it was the push I needed to go ahead and take the 34th floor. I was just wondering, the common advice for buying condos is: Location, location and location! But as I found out this was not entirely true. I love megaplaza's location and whenever we come home to manila it's so convenient with all the malls and nightlife around you. But after a week I get this claustrophobic feeling staying in a viewless room. My unit in megaplaza has 2 rooms (54 sqm) which when I bought was at the same price as a 1 room (29 sqm) that has a view. As I learned location and price is not everything in buying a condo. For people who would buy a condo not only as an investment but also to actually live in it, the popular adage of "location is everything" is not wise enough. For me now, I would rate the importance of things to consider in buying a condo in this order. Location first, Price second, View third, Aesthetics fourth, Stability 5th and investment value last. What do you think? I wish there was a star rating on condos the way hotels have so that you actually have an idea of what to expect. I am not expecting that CER would be a 5 star condo but i am hoping it would be between 3 and 4 stars.

January 26th, 2006, 02:25 PM	#70
terrapinoy mr. pong pagong Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: sa tabi tabi Posts: 996 Likes (Received): 6	Thanks for the advice. So how would you rate Cityland as a builder and its property management skills? Since you are buying a Cityland unit again, I'm assuming it's a positive vote for them.

January 26th, 2006, 09:49 PM	#71
Oddvertising Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 39 Likes (Received): 0	Cityland doesn't build the best looking condos, even the fittings of the interior are not exactly first class but they also have some advantage over other developers. They are: 1. They complete their projects to the promised date. 2. They offer the best locations at the best price. 3. Though the sizes of the rooms and units are small they are very practical and maximises the floor area for each unit. 4. They make sure that there is a capable homeowners association managing the building. Security and maintenance is very good as with our experience with Megaplaza. Most of the owners of units in megaplaza made improvements to their units. You get it at an economical price so you have some money left to improve it according to your own taste and lifestyle. You can improve your unit as you have more money later on, but you cannot change the location of the building if you are not happy with it. Most of the projects on the same location as Cityland's are usually up to 2 times more expensive per square meter.

January 27th, 2006, 01:23 AM	#73
terrapinoy mr. pong pagong Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: sa tabi tabi Posts: 996 Likes (Received): 6	Thanks for everyone's input. It has certainly educated me on what to look for in buying a condo. This is why I enjoy reading SSC Philippines!

January 27th, 2006, 10:35 AM	#74
3cr Atenista sa Frisco Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: San Andreas Fault Posts: 6,337 Likes (Received): 141	You're very welcome Terrapin. There is another thread called Guide to Buying Condos that offer alot of good information which you should also check out in case you haven't done so.

January 29th, 2006, 07:23 AM	#76
Oddvertising Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 39 Likes (Received): 0	Thanks sa advice Pinoy broker, but I already have an agent. I am considering your suggestion of combining a 2 bedroom with a studio facing Ortigas. I already paid the reservation but not the downpayment yet. I was just wondering about why is it bad to have a unit under the pool. Noise? maintenance? The advice and suggestions you get from this forum is great because an agent will not say anything negative that might prevent him from making a sale. You said something about the noise and pollution if you are on the 5th floor. From your experience, what floor do you think is high enough to be not bothered by the outside noise and pollution. The picture I have in mind is I am out in the balcony of the 34th floor, having tea, while looking out at the multitude of people trying to get a ride home during rush hour. I am congratulating myself for the decision I made.

February 14th, 2006, 01:03 PM	#80
Oddvertising Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 39 Likes (Received): 0	Very nice angle! Are they on the 25th floor now? Cityland told me that the turnover date is on or before June 2008. By the speed they are going I hope it's earlier. Thanks Thomasian.