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Old October 2nd, 2014, 12:30 AM   #301
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What are the main differences in security between the 2 depots? Gates, cameras, personnel or is one above ground and one underground?
Magliana depot (B Line) dates back to the Roma - Lido line. It's really old and hasn't been very much upgraded.

Walls are small, there are no alarmed wires on top of them, cameras aren't working very much.

Line A depot (Osteria del Curato) has way better security, given the fact that is partly surrounded by buildings, partly by Line A station Anagnina and partly by private fields. So it's really hard to reach. Magliana infact is completely surrounded by roads or by small hills from which is really easy to break-in.

Some A line trains are graffitied too, but they made them not in the depot, but in the sidings at the end of the line (before Anagnina and Battistini, between Cornelia and Battistini and between Ottaviano and Cipro) where trains are "stored" during the nights (part of them) to start more easily in the morning with the first services from both ends.
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Old October 2nd, 2014, 11:39 PM   #302
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I know it is not a good advertisement for Rome, but this is the truth.
Yes, it's all very simple.

Forgive me if this video has already been posted.



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Don't worry, Amsterdam new metro M5 are full of graffiti half A year after being introduced to passengerservice. (scrolling down might help)

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Old October 4th, 2014, 01:44 PM   #304
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Less often photographed parts of the Roman transportation network - the Roma Nord line.

Acqua Acetosa station. The station itself is really beautiful and quite well maintained indeed. But the trains...









Interior of a train.



At Flamino station.





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Old October 4th, 2014, 08:48 PM   #305
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About the Roma Nord Line and the Flaminio station, there is a renewal project undergoing.
The new Roma Nord Flaminio station will be built in full connection with Metro A Flaminio station in a new underground location.

Here are some images of the project.

http://www.studiofioravanti.net/prog...rogetto_a.html







and the new version of the plan (hopefully the one they are realizing now)



Finally the new gallery will host the local metropolitan trains while the pre existing tunnels will host the regional trains.

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Old October 4th, 2014, 08:50 PM   #306
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That's probably for the best indeed if that happens. Are there new rolling stock planned to be purchased for the line too? The current trains seem... A little dated.
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Old October 4th, 2014, 08:54 PM   #307
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This new station would allow further extension south?
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Old October 4th, 2014, 08:54 PM   #308
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Here, thanks to Sir Joe, we have some good new pics from Jonio station, last one of B1 line. The station will be open to the public by next february 2015.
The underground levels are already finished by some months.

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Posto alcune foto fresche fresche di questa mattina...

Lato Jonio:
hanno cominciato a montare la copertura... che ne dite?


Lato Scarpanto:
parcheggio, strada e marciapiede


ancora Via Scarpanto...


cantiere lato opposto...la carreggiata in direzione Isole Curzolane sembra scendere ad un livello inferiore rispetto all'altra...


questa è la stradina pedonale tra Jonio e Scarpanto


la zona della rampa di accesso ai box


Incrocio Val Melaina-Isole Curzolane:
hanno finito da una settimana, che aspettano ad aprire?


certo non si sono sprecati con la fantasia...


Voci dal cantiere: sembra che debbano completare tutto entro Natale, a parte i negozi e la rampa di accesso al parcheggio da via Gran paradiso. La metro dovrebbe aprire a febbraio 2015, i cantieri dovrebbero chiudersi definitivamente entro il 30 giugno.
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And here is the final shape of this station. We are almost there...

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Adesso un po di info spero chiarificatrici sulla stazione Jonio.
Innanzitutto la conferma del progettista che sarà Purini.
Ecco un po di rendering ormai abbastanza definitivi della stazione.

[IMG]http://oi39.************/1jvxv4.jpg[/IMG]
L'ingresso che si affaccia sulla nuova piazza che verrà realizzata abbattendo i negozi su Viale Jonio.

[IMG]http://oi43.************/1fz4vt.jpg[/IMG]
Lato su Via Scarpanto.
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[IMG]http://oi44.************/2z7ivq9.jpg[/IMG]
Dall'accesso ai treni guardando verso Viale Jonio

[IMG]http://oi43.************/2rz9utx.jpg[/IMG]
Sempre da dentro l'atrio al piano terra a guardare verso Viale Jonio. La zona tornelli sarà al piano di sotto.

[IMG]http://oi42.************/34rstpf.jpg[/IMG]
Plastico con vista da Viale Jonio. Si può vedere bene il giardino con i suoi accessi gradinati. inoltre in primo piano è bene visibile il nuovo grande edificio commerciale che conterrà i negozi demoliti.

[IMG]http://oi43.************/4kv8ue.jpg[/IMG]
Inquadramento generale del progetto.
Infine una vista dall'alto del plastico con un po di spiegazioni.

[IMG]http://oi43.************/21kgxte.jpg[/IMG]

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That's probably for the best indeed if that happens. Are there new rolling stock planned to be purchased for the line too? The current trains seem... A little dated.
Well, I think is a good project though it should have been finished by 6 years. Anyhow now there is the building site going on. I fear for now there is no plan for new trains. Oh well, since 2007 10 new trains were ordered to the Firema company but the Regional government never paid for them and also Firema almost failed so they were not delivered. I dunno what happened of those 10 BETA2-Freccia Flaminia Firema trains...


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This new station would allow further extension south?
Unfortunately not. That's very stupid indeed. The new station exit is literally attached to Flaminio Metro A station. Very good for the exchange. Very good to block every further southern extension.
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Finally the new gallery will host the local metropolitan trains while the pre existing tunnels will host the regional trains.

What is the difference between local metropolitan trains and regional trains on Roma Nord line?
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Seems to be the same tariff system, but it's got a very regional characteristic including a mixture of "urban" and "regional" services. We were lucky that we were on one of those stations served by the urban line as that is clearly more frequent. The regional line has skip-stop services and is much less frequent. The line also appeared to be truncated on Saturdays and Sundays with far more limited service. The metro by contrast was far more frequent and doesn't possess skip-stop services.
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What is the difference between local metropolitan trains and regional trains on Roma Nord line?
The metropolitan trains do the service between Flaminio and Montebello Stations, and stop at all the stations. The stops at the main stations are compulsory, in the minor stations (such as Tor di Quinto, Monte Antenne, Campi Sportivi) are on request.

The regional trains do the service for Civita Castellana and Viterbo. Between Flaminio and Montebello stops only at the main stations, such as Euclide, Acqua Acetosa, Saxa Rubra, Prima Porta, Montebello.
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The urban service has a frequency of approximately 10 mins while the suburban every 30 mins in the rush hour and more than one hour during the rest of the day.

Theoretically the urban line (Montebello-Flaminio) should one day become an independent subway line, the line F, as was called by the 1960 General Urban Masterplan of Rome.
New trains and stations and a new urban development in the areas between Saxa Rubra and Tor di Quinto should add more passengers to this neglected line.

Unfortunately not much is really planned as of today...
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The metropolitan trains do the service between Flaminio and Montebello Stations, and stop at all the stations. The stops at the main stations are compulsory, in the minor stations (such as Tor di Quinto, Monte Antenne, Campi Sportivi) are on request.
Stop on request in a railway line, this is quite unusual!
This may explain why the rolling stock seems quite light.
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Yes, that's one of the reason for the light rolling stock , for having a fast acceleration and deceleration.
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Here are some more photos of my impressions of the Roman transportation network.

Starting at the Metro Flamino concourse (Line A).



Platform level (dark again) at Flamino on line A.



Colosseo station on Line B - this is quite a nice station!



New rolling stock arrived at Colosseo station on line B. Shame...





The Roman trams.



And the network! This network seemed quite disconnected with quite some gaps in it, even if one considers the metro filling the spaces unfortunately...



And the interior of one of the newer trams. These were quite nice.



More to come at a later date.
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Really nice pic.

Have you jumped into the "good ol' days" by taking some old STANGA tram or the Roma Giardinetti line?

Those trains are from 1926 (and STANGAs trams are from 1940).

BTW, a good and a bad news:

The good one is that Line C finally seems to come to an end: it will reach Ottaviano, where it will cross the A line.

No Clodio, but since last week line would have ended in Venezia, seems a really good step forward to its completion.

The bad news is that the super-opening of saturday 11th will be probably delayed. Not sure yet, but the testing committee from the government didn't allow it.
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Ah, no I didn't try the STANGA trams (I don't think), though I did see some very old ones. I also didn't try the Roma Giardinetti line, but as you saw, I did take the Roma Nord line! That one had some very nice features including the short underground section to Flamino with the underground station - that was a surprise!
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STANGAs:
ROMA:mitico tram STANGA ex-Stefer n°7103 al capolinea 19 Piazza Risorgimento by Alefilobus, on Flickr

Roma-Giardinetti 1926 rolling stock:

Ferrovia Roma Giardinetti (Il Trenino) (2/3) by Darkroom Daze, on Flickr
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