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Old November 25th, 2012, 09:05 PM   #41
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I have done some research, and I estimated that the number of 4-lane roads that are motorway (like) is some 125 kilometers. These roads have 2x2 lanes, a median and interchanges, but many have some kind of illegal access from unpaved side roads. Vendors on the shoulders are not uncommon as well.

The borders with both Turkey and Azerbaijan are closed. I must add there are physically no real roads in the border regions, as the border has been closed since Soviet times. The Nagorno Karabakh War in the 1990s destroyed much of the infrastructure in that region.

International traffic can only go south to Iran or north to Georgia. Transit traffic to international markets use Georgian roads to the port of Batumi, and sometimes further north into Russia, as Armenia and Russia have good relations.

Because the most (if not all) of the Russian - Georgia/Azerbaijani border crossings are closed to non-CIS inhabitants, going to Armenia by car from Europe is only possible via Turkey and Georgia.
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Old November 25th, 2012, 10:01 PM   #42
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Because the most (if not all) of the Russian - Georgia/Azerbaijani border crossings are closed to non-CIS inhabitants, going to Armenia by car from Europe is only possible via Turkey and Georgia.
Why there are difference between CIS and non-CIS citizens?
I know there are enclaves/exclaves on the AR-AZ border, how they access them if the border is closed?
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Old November 25th, 2012, 10:15 PM   #43
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CIS = Commonwealth of Independent States i.e. inhabitants of the former Soviet Union except for the Baltics and Georgia.
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Old November 25th, 2012, 10:22 PM   #44
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CIS = Commonwealth of Independent States i.e. inhabitants of the former Soviet Union except for the Baltics and Georgia.
I know what CIS is. I asked for what reason they can cross and other no.
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Old November 26th, 2012, 07:25 PM   #45
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Hello in wikipethya it says that Armenia has 850km of railway, is that true?. Do you know how fast the armenians trains ares, which is the maximun speed?
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Old November 27th, 2012, 09:23 PM   #46
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Why there are difference between CIS and non-CIS citizens?
I know there are enclaves/exclaves on the AR-AZ border, how they access them if the border is closed?
They are not accessible. De facto part of the respective country where they are located.
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Old January 1st, 2013, 10:42 PM   #47
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Hello in wikipethya it says that Armenia has 850km of railway, is that true?. Do you know how fast the armenians trains ares, which is the maximun speed?
Their system is the remainder of the soviet system. so they have the same features.
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Old January 1st, 2013, 11:55 PM   #48
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Why there are difference between CIS and non-CIS citizens?
I know there are enclaves/exclaves on the AR-AZ border, how they access them if the border is closed?
Azerbaijani exclave of Nakhchivan can be reached only via Iran or Turkey. Armenian exclaves are not really exclaves anymore because Armenia controls the territory between them and Armenia proper. There was a war between Armenia and Azerbaijan in the early 90-ties won by Armenia (with help from Russia).

It's a beautifull part of a planet (I've been in both Georgia and Armenia), but inherently unstable (very fragmented ethnically and religiously)...
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Old January 2nd, 2013, 02:07 AM   #49
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Azerbaijani exclave of Nakhchivan can be reached only via Iran or Turkey. Armenian exclaves are not really exclaves anymore because Armenia controls the territory between them and Armenia proper. There was a war between Armenia and Azerbaijan in the early 90-ties won by Armenia (with help from Russia).

It's a beautifull part of a planet (I've been in both Georgia and Armenia), but inherently unstable (very fragmented ethnically and religiously)...
This is quite a controversial statement.
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This is quite a controversial statement.
But true and quite obviously so for everyone familiar with the situation. Let's keep to the road infrastructure in this thread, though.
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Old January 2nd, 2013, 04:51 AM   #51
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Well, the fact is that Russia provided assistance to both sides, and there aremany other factors in the conflict.

Yes, let's keep on topic.
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Old January 2nd, 2013, 05:13 PM   #52
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Because the most (if not all) of the Russian - Georgia/Azerbaijani border crossings are closed to non-CIS inhabitants, going to Armenia by car from Europe is only possible via Turkey and Georgia.
Or via Turkey and Iran. I didn't know Caucasian border crossings were closed to us.
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the road between Vladikavkaz and Kazbegi (Stepansminda) is open for non-CIS residents and vehicles.
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the road between Vladikavkaz and Kazbegi (Stepansminda) is open for non-CIS residents and vehicles.
Since when? It wasn't when I visited Georgia last summer.
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Sunfuns, officially from the autumn of 2011.
My friend drove in the spring of 2012 to Georgia, and confirmed that.
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Officially from the autumn of 2011
A friend drove the spring of 2012 to Georgia, and confirmed that
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Hi when was built dual-carriage Yerevan - Sevan? year, please
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Old June 6th, 2017, 10:33 PM   #58
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No ovals next to foreign cities.
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What do you mean by ovals? Eliptic roundabouts?
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