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Old October 16th, 2009, 06:32 AM   #21
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i really hope they pick the one By SOM
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Old October 16th, 2009, 07:13 AM   #22
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Cities that have limited space usually build closer together. Beijing can grow in all direction as it has no sea or mountains next to it, therefore it tends to be more spacey, resulting in less traffic problems, cleaner enviroment, less crowded streets etc.

However for skyscraper fans it may not look as good :S
Thats the problem with Beijing. There are no natural boundaries and no focal point. Shanghai doesn't have natural boundaries either but we have the Huangpu river as a focal point to grow from. Beijing is just a never ending sea of buildings on a plain.
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Old October 16th, 2009, 09:11 AM   #23
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Completion in 6-8 years? Really? I mean all that is so amazing and awesome I'm almost lost for words. Very cool.
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Old October 16th, 2009, 05:17 PM   #24
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i really hope they pick the one By SOM
So which one is SOM's proposal? I read news today that SOM won the first prize.
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Old October 16th, 2009, 05:49 PM   #25
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I like the Gateway District Towers of proposal nr 5!
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Old October 16th, 2009, 07:51 PM   #26
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So which one is SOM's proposal? I read news today that SOM won the first prize.
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Proposal 5. By SOM. 1x452m~, 110+ floors; 1x375m~, 88~ floors; 2x310m~, 70~ floors; and 2x250m+













If SOM won, that's really good.
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Old October 16th, 2009, 09:36 PM   #27
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If SOM won, that's really good.
SOM design is excellent but a little conservative in height. It would be great if the central tower is around 600m and the cultural tower around 450m.
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Old October 16th, 2009, 11:48 PM   #28
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So which one is SOM's proposal? I read news today that SOM won the first prize.
could you post a link ?
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Old October 17th, 2009, 08:08 AM   #29
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Are the buildings a rough estimate of where they will be located? Its only a plan right? The final design of the buildings aren't finalised yet? Hopefully the buildings will be more interesting !!!
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Old October 17th, 2009, 10:07 AM   #30
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Cities that have limited space usually build closer together. Beijing can grow in all direction as it has no sea or mountains next to it, therefore it tends to be more spacey, resulting in less traffic problems, cleaner enviroment, less crowded streets etc.

However for skyscraper fans it may not look as good :S

Beijing is actually bounded by mountains to the North and West...
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Old October 17th, 2009, 10:47 AM   #31
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Are the buildings a rough estimate of where they will be located? Its only a plan right? The final design of the buildings aren't finalised yet? Hopefully the buildings will be more interesting !!!
IMO all plans are a just brief scheme of the masterplan (distribution of the land use, heights, etc). The designs of the buildings are only conceptual, that's the rule for almost every masterplan proposal normally.
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Old October 17th, 2009, 11:57 AM   #32
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cool, because i don't like some of the buildings proposed. Hopefully there will be some twin towers, like the one in gz and the one proposed by SOM but of a different design. As for the general design of the buildings, something elegant, not too out there like CCTV yet not too bland would be good. A few boxes would be nice, something like the 21st century mansion in pudong looks great for a box !!!
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Old October 17th, 2009, 12:25 PM   #33
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Found a render of SOM's prop
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Old October 17th, 2009, 12:27 PM   #34
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cool, because i don't like some of the buildings proposed. Hopefully there will be some twin towers, like the one in gz and the one proposed by SOM but of a different design. As for the general design of the buildings, something elegant, not too out there like CCTV yet not too bland would be good. A few boxes would be nice, something like the 21st century mansion in pudong looks great for a box !!!
On the other hand the designs for the main towers are too detailed. I think that they launched actual proposals for the landmark buildings now, but even if the pick somebody's masterplan it doesn't mean that the designs of the main towers have to be final
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Old October 17th, 2009, 08:01 PM   #35
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If it's official, maybe someone should change the tread title. The 668m is misleading.
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Old October 17th, 2009, 08:13 PM   #36
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They haven't announced the winner masterplan. 668m is the only proposal whose height was announced. It's the only height we know.
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Old October 19th, 2009, 04:37 PM   #37
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I'm all for supertall skyscrapers in Beijing, but whichever proposal wins needs to integrate underground highways and to add several more subway stations and subway lines into their CBD plan. It already takes one hour by car to get from Dongzhimen to the East Fourth Ring Road during rush hour, so adding a 668 m tower with several more skyscrapers won't help the nightmarish traffic conditions that already exist in Beijing.
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With all those huge avenues, Beijing could construct tons of elevated/underground highways. They should do it asap.
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Old October 20th, 2009, 02:35 AM   #39
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Awesome, Beijing really needs this! Will be very interesting to see the designs of these taller buildings as they develope to any construction starts in a few years!
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Old October 20th, 2009, 06:52 AM   #40
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z0rg, copying news below

Beijing CBD new proposals on Chinadaily.com
China Daily October 19th
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2...nt_8811737.htm

A general view shows Beijing CBD, now covering about 4 sq km, is the nation's leading international business hub.[China Daily]



Ten years after Beijing's famed Central Business District (CBD) was founded, the 4-sq-km cluster of modern highrises and international office buildings is set for an expansion eastward that will almost double its size after the Beijing municipal government approved the move in May.

The public got its first view of possible plans for the new area at the opening ceremony of the 10th Beijing CBD International Business Festival on October 12, when seven urban planning and design firms unveiled their visions.

The municipal blueprint calls for the boundaries of the CBD be extended to the East Fourth Ring Road, an expansion of about 3 sq km. The existing business zone is bordered by Jianguomenwai Street on the south, Chaoyang Road on the north, Dongdaqiao Road in the east and West Dawang Road in the west.


Experts said they were "very impressed with the wisdom and innovative ideas in the proposals", the highlights of which are:
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